December 2011 - Worp speed 5 to sleeping and smiling

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FairyBayleaf DC1 EDD 6th Dec BORN 29th Sept Albert Elwyn 2lb 14oz
Tjuice DC2 EDD 21st November BORN 7th Nov Amaya Rose 3kg
Sevensevenseven DC2 EDD 20th Dec 25yo Southwold BORN 21st Nov Eva Rose 5lb 4oz
Girlwiththemouseyhair DC2 EDD 24th Nov Maggie Juliet BORN 25th Nov 8lb 9oz
YBR DC1 EDD 22nd Dec BORN 25th Nov (girl) 6lb 3.5oz
LittleBlueBoat(Cheeptrick) DC2 EDD 5th Dec 29yo S.Yorkshire BORN 26th Nov Hope Brynn Frances 8lb 9oz
Kri5ty DC1 EDD 13th Dec 26yo Manchester Boy BORN 29th Nov Saul Harrison 6lb 13oz
LauraSmurf DC1 EDD 3rd December Girl BORN 30th Nov
BeeMyBaby DC2 EDD 29th November 25yo Scotland BORN 1st Dec Safia Hawwa 7lb6oz
SoTiredOfTheWheelsOnTheBus DC2 EDD 7th December BORN 1st December Boy 8lbs5oz
Iggly DC2 EDD 2nd December South London BORN 2nd Dec (Girl) 8lb 1oz
Girlsyearapart DC4 EDD 6th December BORN 3rd Dec (Boy) 7lb 7oz
HoneyLovesCake DC1 EDD 2nd December Cornwall BORN 6th Dec Rocco Kaleb 8lb 14oz
Mmmmcheese DC2 EDD 25th December 32yo BORN 7th Dec (Girl) 7lb8oz
Itsybitsy08 DC2 EDD 6th December Boy BORN 9th Dec Kieran 8lb4oz
Msbuggywinkle DC3 EDD 13th December 27yo BORN 10th Dec Miranda 8lb6oz
OiMissus DC1 2 December, 39yo, Horwich, Bolton BORN 10th Dec (Boy) Alistair Jude 9lbs
jigglebum BORN 11 Dec Freya 7lbs
Pludophtherednosedreindeer (plupervert): DC2 EDD Dec 10 (Kent) BORN 12 Dec Helena 8lb 6oz (3.8kg)
NorthernChinchilla- EDD 19th December, BORN 12th Dec, Boy, 7lb 7oz
Jomouse DC1 EDD 2nd December 35yo London BORN 14 Dec (Girl) 5lb 8oz
Tyelperion DC1 EDD 3rd December 27yo Windsor BORN 14 Dec (boy) 9lb 8oz
KateM77: DC2 EDD Dec 10 34yo BORN 16 Dec Daniel James 8lb 6oz
BennyBenBear DC1 EDD 5th December Manchester/Bolton BORN 18 Dec Oliver Stephen Bolton 8lb 9oz
Kiteflying DC2 EDD 7 December 44yo Australia BORN 18 December (Girl) Lulu 8lb 14 oz
mopsytop DC1 EDD 25th December BORN 19 Dec 6lbs 11oz
AWomanCalledHorse DC1 EDD 22nd December BORN 21st December 7lbs 6oz (Boy)
Figgygal DC1 EDD 12 December 30yo Bath BORN 22 Dec Daniel James McMillan 9lb 4oz
Kitty5824 DC1 EDD 21st December 33 yo Manchester - Don't know BORN 23rd Dec, Boy, 7lb 14oz, Sebastian John
Aethelfleda DC3 EDD 27th December London BORN 3rd January, Albert Thomas William 8lb 10 oz
hawthers DC2 EDD 22nd December London 33yo BORN 28 December 7lb 4oz (boy)
LittleMissFlustered DC3 31st December BORN 6 Jan (boy)
hopeful1 BORN 6 Jan Noa Francie Kate 10lb 3oz
MissRee BORN 12 Jan 12 Freya Violet 7lb 7oz

DD has a bath every other day. As she is so chubby she gets bits of vomit and fluff in all her neck folds! DS also keeps asking to have his bath with baby and it keeps her awake for at least half an hour!

I'm still having silly wobbles about how much she is sleeping. Today she hasn't been awake for one stretch longer than half an hour. I got DH to google (I avoid so I don't get all paranoid about things I read!) And doesn't seem to be anything to worry about. Yet I worry! Wish I could flick a switch and turn off all the silly worries I have.

When DD has a bloated belly I give her 5 mins tummy time and she usually let out a volley of farts after a coupke of minutes. She's quite strong and can hold her head up well.

She's been smiling since she was 1/2 weeks old but we only get about 1 a day. DS didn't smile mucj as a baby but by 6 months he smiliest baby around so don't thinlk it means much!

Smiling...I forgot! Miri smiled for the first time yesterday morning, at me because I was singing silly songs to her she has smiled quite a lot since, usually when she first wakes up and I say hello.

This may sound like a silly question but am I too late for BF? we tried when she was born but without much success and the hospital practically forced formula on her as she wasn't latching on due to what they termed as "minor" Tongue tie. Her Tongue is very heart shaped when she pokes it out and really obvious when she's crying.

So I've only really attempted bf once since bringing her home and she just screamed the place down and I got stressed and gave her formula instead

I didn't get that full, painful, leaky nips thing everyone talks about but I can still squeeze a small amount of milk out of my right nipple.

Am I too late and will never get my supply up properly? Is the fact I never got the full leaky sore bobs a sign that I don't have much milk at all?

Forgot to say, Freya is 15 days old.

MissRee I wd say why not give it a go if you'd like to but don't stress about it if it doesn't work out. I got myself into such a state and it really wasn't good for me or minimopsy and also adversely affected my supply. The more often you put her on , the more your supply should increase. But it might not work out. I have tried and tried and it just hasn't worked out. But then again it might! So why not try?

Sorry for the me post but what a bad day. Eva has been unsettled and grizzly all day. DH moans when I have her in the wrap for too long as she sleeps too soundly and won't sleep at night. I picked her up earlier when she was crying and he said I'm just giving her what she wants. I did controlled crying withDSbut he was 2, not 9 weeks, I can't just leave her to scream :(. What am I meant to do? Even the bouncy chair and the car don't work.

Thanks Mopsy I think I might give it a go next week when DP goes back to work - that way me and Freya can laze in bed all day doing skin to skin and practising latching on. I just haven't felt like I could do that with DP here as he's always itching to go out somewhere!

Seven* I sympathise Dh said the same thing. I think they forget how they were when their pfb was first around. Since our weight issues Dh has changed his mind though.

Sorry to hear you're having a tough day seven I didnt think babies could associate the two and form habit until much later and therefore there's no such thing as "making a rod" etc.

Even if I've read that wrong, why shouldn't you give your baby what they want? They're small, totally reliant and probably rather scared still... all the more reason to have millions of snuggles I say

Seven sorry to hear your having a bad day. At this age do they really understand being clingy?
I told DP Sky doesn't and if I want to pick her up I will. However, I do let her cry for about 5 mins or longer if i'm doing her bottles (not much longer mind you) sometimes she settles herself, sometimes not if she just wants a cuddle, but then I love cuddles with both my girls :)

MissRee My DD had to go on the bottle owing to bad jaundice and she wasn't feeding well enough on the breast, and stayed on it while I was on antibiotics the following week. She has been coaxed back to BF (in combination) so it's certainly possible.
Get some local help/advice and be determined; I was advised to spend lots of time skin-to-skin and to express as well to encourage milk supply. I found that it was hardest to BF when BabyYBR was really hungry thus screaming and wriggly - we both got more frustrated and stressed; I learnt not to bother on those occasions!

BabyYBR gets a bath most days - DH was taught how while we were in hospital and is really confident so it's part of her routine already. It seems less hassle to us than top-and-tailing.

I'm down with manflu' and feeling really grotty; been having a sofa day which helps but the usual cures are out-of-bounds while BF.

figgy lovely photos :)

northern you're not the only one with a smelly grumpy baby. DS only has a bath once a week at the moment, at the weekend, I just can't manage it on weekdays when I have both DC's on my own. Hoping to up it to twice a week when DD starts nursery. No smiles here either, other than windy ones. He's 6 weeks today. DD was already smiling at this stage. Guess I'll just have to be patient. Still, I'm not surprised there are no smiles at the moment...it's difficult to find time for it when you spend the whole day either with a boob in your mouth or screaming because there's not a boob in your mouth Very much hoping it's a growth spurt. Exhausted!

A few smiles, here, too, and fewer of the sneers and shoulder-hunches which accompany pooing (she's getting smoother moves there )! The funniest "smile" is when she's feeding, and the nipple slips out of her mouth.

Her expression has been quite different on the only two times we've bathed her properly: then she was very reproachful; that, the hassle of warming up the bathroom, and the fact that she doesn't really need it, mean we haven't wanted to bathe her much. DS had eczema (though from about 2.5 months, so nothing like as young as Hope - so sorry to hear of her eczema, AirofHope), and cutting his baths to one a week or less frequently , when he was about 1yo, meant a real improvement in his skin.

Wakeful periods are getting longer here, too. DD loves shadows like your Danny, Figgygal: practically the first time I saw her alert was during a night feed, when she stared at the shadow of my lamp on the wall (it's a halogen lamp with a flexible neck, which was bent back on itself, casting a really stark shadow!). She looked as though she simply couldn't believe her eyes! She also likes looking at high contrast back/white pictures we put in her cot, and seems similarly dumbfounded if I do something like rotate the picture by 90 degrees. It's fascinating to watch.

Lots of posseting here, too, and it gets really horrid when it's been curdling fermenting into yoghurt in her tummy for a bit. I've been very nervous of this ever since (several weeks ago now) she woke up choking on the posset, just about able to breathe enough to cry, but with great difficulty. I couldn't get her to stop, so ended up calling an ambulance. Wouldn't you know it (but thank God!) she made an arse out of me by recovering before the ambulance car arrived, but I am still careful to try to wind her every time she feeds. Thanks for those methods, Mmmmcheese; I'll try those next time! One thing that works for DD (and worked for DS) is patting his/her back while against me, then laying him/her down for a moment, then picking up again. That seems to dislodge something, and a burp often results.

Thanks YBR, I'll definitely be doing lots of snuggly skin to skin next week I'll probably start by offering boob an hour or so after feeds when she seems awake and alert but not screaming hungry!

Final score for day three: Floor 4 Potty 6

How bad is it that i haven't been out to day and i have not got dressed

I did sleep till 4.30 and so did Hope so she is awake now!

I took some good photo's but on my phone so i have to figure out how to put them on the computer.

I bath Hope every other day as she also has flods in her neck that get smelling, but the light parathin wash and then the cream really help her skin and she sleeps better cos of it.

oi, we are using disposable paper liners: there are lots of different brands out there, currently I'm using small size ones

northern, not slatternly at all! I'm only bathing DS twice a week: mre than that and their skin dries out big time (we have a minor family history of eczema). Obviously if things get mucky they are cleaned as needed.

mopsy and darcies, the baby version of Vicks is called Snufflebabe. Comes in a little pot from the chemist.

And well done air, that's a great score!

Er-can't find the packet for my current paper liners !! I get em online and tend to use nonbranded thin ones: try a single packet first then once you've found a good supplier buy in bulk.

I think the ones I currently have might be these (the baby size as they work better with little ones) as I bought a 2 x 100 pack;

baby liners 200 for £5.50

php liners from Mothercare are good. I tend to avoid thick ones like little green earthlets (too thick!) and found Junior Joy brand, though cheap, fell apart a bit

Well I'm glad there's another baby out there that's only had three baths, thanks msb! LO's never been sick, so that's part of my excuse reason.

It's weird isn't it mmmm, how you're concerned about how much your LO is sleeping, and I'm worried about how little mine is... I'm glad your worries have been partly assuaged by Dr Google. Just shows how we have the ability to concern ourselves about everything

I hope DS starts smiling at me soon, although it's good to hear that some others aren't grinning rampantly already... Sounds like our DCs are little peas then Kate, because DS is all about the boob at the mo as well! Tho snap with the sneers plu... and that sounds terrifying, poor you- I think choking baby is everyone's nightmare.

Lovely that the bathing is part of your OH's routine YBR- may try that here as I think sometimes OH can feel a bit left out because of bf'ing.

Definitely give it a go missree.

Seven, the way I look at it is that babies at this age don't have 'wants', they only have needs that have to be attended to, so of course you're right to see to Eva.

Yay for that scoreline air!

Right, this post has taken me several hours to write, owing to dinner, Skyping and grizzling child, so it's probably wildly out of date...

Nice one re: potty score air! I think that entirely justifies not changing out of pyjamas! That is plenty to be getting on with for one day!

I have a possessed child again tonight screaming for food hysterically all evening tried to distract him but eventually give in. he had a feed at 5.30 then wanted another one at 8, then started crying again at 9 actually managed to get him to latch on which calmed him down but he now needs his bedtime feed Which I'm sure he will scoff. I know all babies are different but he seems to be off the chart in terms of the feeding guidelines which just makes me wonder why I'm perseveringly trying to get him to latch on every feed he can't be getting much. Hope he sleeps well all his screaming has given me a stinking headache.

See you on the nightshift ladies

Hiya- is it nightshift yet? DH has gone out for worl drinks so my cunning plan to get to bed early was fooled only by DS chewing on my boobs constantly since 9pm Despite me Tanking him up from 8 pm when I'd got the DDs to bed.
Now in bed feeding him lying down as the little darling is perky and won't settle in the moses basket.....

aethel exactly the same here. DH gone out so I got all ready for bed and starting feeding DD at 8.30 thinking I would get an early night but she has decided to be awake all evening and unsettled. Keeps wanting boob but then pulling off again. Not sure what's going on. I just want to go to bed.

And now she has mega hiccups!

Octopus boy has paediatric man-flu. He's deposited vast amounts of lumpy, partially-digested milk on me, my bed and his crib so far. He is now whining as he can't breathe properly and is flapping about as he isn't wrapped up like usual. This is going to be a long night...

Hi all! Nightshift has definitely started methinks. Went to bed at 10:45 after she had 90ml ebm, optimistically thinking might get a few hours. Ha. Was wokenup half an hour later (just when I was properly fast asleep) by her doing her hungry cry. Splitting headache. Really Joe she doesn't do her feed-fall asleep routine but suspect she will. Suppose after last night another good night is too much to hope for ...

morning - same here