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BeeMyBaby · 13/01/2012 19:16

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mopsytop · 21/01/2012 23:32

I know exactly what you mean about split personality rational/non-rational! I am exact same about my bf issues. If only cd get non-rational self to listen to rational self!

LittleMissFlustered · 22/01/2012 01:03

aethel That midwife just doesn't like breast feeding. It's sad, but they exist. Smile benignly every time she spouts, then ignore her:)

Oi No idea on the wine front I'm afraid, I know the alcohol will get into your milk, just not sure how much/how long for.

LittleMissFlustered · 22/01/2012 03:10

After two good nights we're having a less good one. Seem to have been feeding for a solid two hours:(

hawthers · 22/01/2012 03:18

Oh lord lmf feel your pain. I'm an hour in and hoping for a return to sleep soon. Hopefully octoboy is just gearing up for a lovely 5 hour sleep (and your dd's have a lie in)

bennybenbear · 22/01/2012 03:19

Urgh my lovely day started off with swimming end up a nightmare after I fell out with DSIL Sad. Stupid baby brain and tiredness made me say something really badly (not how I meant it) then fly off the handle when she got upset. So Angry with myself as hate upsetting people. We got on well before now I think I've ruined it so feeling really down esp as I don't have any family up here.

I'm also paranoid about feeding since it was questioned so much in hosp. LO is putting on lots but this last couple of days always seems hungry, should I up his oz in his bottles? How do I know if his needs hungry baby milk? Also he only poos once a day (if that), is that normal for FF? It is mammoth size when he does go!!

aethelfleda · 22/01/2012 03:54

Hiya benny, once a day poo explosion is fine: hungry baby formula is not compulsory at all but some mums like to try it rather than increasing bottle size slightly: alternatively you could keep the bottles the same but offer a little (2-3oz only) cooled boiled water bottles between feeds as some babies get thirsty. Up to you.

And give your SIL anapplogetic text tomorrow, grovel a bit and explain you're knackered at the mo: esp if shes had kids and remembers this bit, I'm sure she'll be fine xx

aethelfleda · 22/01/2012 03:59

Ps hope you're now im bed ginally lmf!

AWomanCalledHorse · 22/01/2012 04:03

benny we put LO onto hungry baby when he was having 12 120ml feeds a day and still not full up, now he's on 7-8 feeds 150ml a day, and actually going down for 2-5 hours between feeds.
He's now onto the bigger (we're using tommee tippee bottles, and a teat called variflow) teats too (as he was not getting the milk out of the size 1 teat quick enough).
We tried the boiled water thing, but it didn't help..he'd just be hungry again an hour later.
You could always buy a few cartons of the ready made stuff & see if it helps?

Hope you didn't have a massive fallout with DSIL & things look better in the morning xx

aethelfleda · 22/01/2012 04:11

Ooh and hawthers thanks for your support (xposted earlier£, yes will be a diff MW on Monday. Going to tailor my story a little and re-rmemphasise how well he is and how My bf counsellor mate thinks its tongue related, but if weight is just up a few oz more he'll get back to bithwweight and they should sign me off.

oi more than a few units of alcohol will get into breastmilk: may dope baby a bit, not ideal as at this age they can't metabolise booze: not that likely to harm them (mothers have got pissed for many years!) but a) you may well get a killer hangover b) may make baby grumpy tomorrow c) prob best not to have too much on a repeated basis really. Do you have a breast pump?may be worth puming and freezing a few bottles so that if you do go to town you can ' pump and dump" (if you do have more than a few units of booze, pump and throw out 2-4 oz of breast milk, then feed baby
a bottle of EBM for the feed 3-6 hours after the booze, beyond that it should be mostly out).

LittleMissFlustered · 22/01/2012 05:36

I may need a nap later.

Mmmmcheese · 22/01/2012 05:58

DD must have got another cold as is all snuffly and grizzly and slightly raised temperature. Haven't got much sleep tonight. Really hope it doesn't turn into bronchiolitis again. Also DS now got ear infection. Roll on spring!

ihaveaveryleakybrain · 22/01/2012 06:18

Think my right nip has actually been chewed off. Can't understand how I'm still so crap at this breastfeeding lark after 6 and a half weeks! Trying (and failing) to convince ds that he isn't still hungry and that being in the Moses basket isn't remotely like solitary confinement.
As that is clearly not working guess now is a good time to introduce myself properly...

Ds is my first and so still hugely clueless about everything. Pregnancy went surprisingly ok and was blessedly uneventful, the birth was, I'm learning, Not That Bad. Overdue by 9 days my waters broke the night before I was due for a sweep, went in to hospital expecting to be sent home again but contractions started and so we were allowed to stay. Was in the bath for most of the day and all was going ok but 2nd stage was going on a bit too long and I'd started losing the plot, so we were bundled into theatre for a jolly old forceps delivery. Turns out ds was a bit of a fatty and not only did his shoulders get stuck his head was turned and tilted so was never going to have come out on his own (so I told them they needed to apologise for shouting at me - I knew I couldn't bloody push any more than I was...)

Anyway so that's us, we are ebf which was/is harder than I could have imagined - not helped by developing a breast abcess oh the joy, but its beginning to get easier. Despite the nipple chewing.

Just realised how long I've blathered on for, sorry!

msbuggywinkle · 22/01/2012 06:58

Bf and alcohol essay coming up...

Generally 1-2 units and you are fine to continue bfing as normal. The basic rule is that if you are safe to drive you are safe to breast feed. If one has drunk more than that, you need to wait until you feel normal before breast feeding. Alcohol is metabolised from breast milk at the same rate as from blood, so pumping and dumping is only useful for your comfort while waiting to bf.

The effect of alcohol on babies is mainly a reduced volume of milk intake as alcohol inhibits let down (but when this happens will vary from woman to woman) and drowsiness.

Anyway! Morning! Chinese New Year parade in town today and we're making fortune cookies, DD1 is looking forward to seeing the Dragon.

Figgygal · 22/01/2012 08:12

Ladies with the hungry baby formula I have been told by 3 different MW and the HV that it's bad at causing constipation and so we've been avoiding it. I find that LO only ever cries for food and seems to be on a 3.5hr feeding schedule depending on how well he sleeps overnight I.e if he has 2 stops he can go every 4 hours, if only 1 night feed 3.5 hours to make sure he gets enough. He gets boob at every feed (apart from 1 in the day where we either out or have visitors (they're still coming thick and fast) and then around 120ml formula as we still on the little cartons and each does 2 feeds. Have made decision that we are going to stick with the cartons rAther than powder buying litre cartons from local tesco brings down cost per litre and saves sooo much hassle. Have accepted he'll never be off the ff now and any boob access is a bonus

bennybenbear · 22/01/2012 08:24

Thanks for the info on hungry baby milk and other tips. Will see how we go this week and what HV says on weds at well baby clinic.

AnAirOfHope · 22/01/2012 10:00

What are the affects of coffee with regards to bf babies?

How do you clean terry nappies/ reusable nappies please?

LittleMissFlustered · 22/01/2012 10:07

Octopus boy is in newborn clothes today. This is going to mean slightly fewer laundry loads as I have more than eight babygros in newborn size:o

msbuggywinkle · 22/01/2012 10:34

Caffeine in bf babies varies...some seem to be sensitive, some don't. In general, caffeine is fine in moderation. If a baby is sensitive, it normally gets better as they get older.

Our cloth nappies go in a dry bucket, pooey ones get the poo flushed off in the loo then they all go in the machiene. We don't tumble dry.

Kri5ty · 22/01/2012 11:09

bec how old is he, is it a growth spurt why he is wanting more?

Just make an extra ounce at every feed, I asked about hungry milk and they said only if he is asking 260ml at every feed and still hungry, or gaining too much weight

Saul is nearly 8 weeks and up until last week only poohed every other day, this week its every day.

He isnt taking much food this week

Kri5ty · 22/01/2012 11:15

We had the sex talk last night... he said he was really nervous too as he 1) didn't want to hurt me, and 2) didn't want to get pregnant again... its strange to think blokes would be nervous too!

aethelfleda · 22/01/2012 11:40

air we have DS in reuseables (apart from the overnight shift as he's stilltoo small for the night nappies I've got, plus he still poos in the middle of the night and it's a bit easier to change a disposable in the dark!)

We have two dry nappy buckets (older sites tell you to soak nappies: ignore them!) each is lined with a drawstring mesh bag so no need to handle
Nappies to get them into the washer. Put your used nappies and wraps into the bucket, one for day 1 and the second bucket for day 2. I use disposable paper liners to catch the poo and pop them in a nappy sack with the baby wipes when I change baby, they go in the bin. At the end of day 2, you have a half load of nappies. Wash them at 40 degrees with a tablespoon scoop of napisan, a tablespoon max of washing powder and (very important) NO CONDITIONER. if nappies are very heavily soiled wash at 60 degrees (this is only needed a fee times a month usually). Line dry/airer dry. Never tumble dry covers (wraps) or drape them on radiators/wash them over 60 or the waterproofing melts!

If you want more details just PM me. It's a simple routine once you get into it.

NorthernChinchilla · 22/01/2012 13:11

When I have my 6 month check I'll get the pill sorted, and then we'll see. I know what y'all mean about being nervous and teenager-y about it- I certainly am. I don't have any big physical worries (although who was it on here who'd had the c-section too and still found it weird down there?) but it's just been so long Blush...
Don't think we had any action post first trimester, so will have to remind myself how the hell to do it!

Not too bad a night's sleep, but sleeping with LO is like sleeping with a tazmanian devil crossed with a farting warthog. Who spends all night vogue-ing. Badly (albeit very enthusiastically).

lmf, are you doing OK? Does your OH still have all bits attached...? Good news about LO being in newborn clothes though, hurrah! And has your DP learnt how to both settle the baby and not piss you off figgy?

It's odd, isn't it, the way that even though your rational self knows that you're doing OK, that your baby is fine and your parenting is producing a happy baby/child, it doesn't stop the mentalling. The scary thing is that it's almost impossible to tell when it slips from 'normal' parent worrying into something more sinister...it's why talking about it, whether here or IRL is so vital.

Wow leaky, an abcess?! Jeez, thought my mastitis was bad, poor you. And a forceps delivery...but it sounds like in the scheme of things it wasn't too bad? Know what you mean about the bf, my DS would stay attached and nomming at my nipple all day if he could....

That's interesting msb, when I went to bf class, they told me that although alcohol does go into breast milk, you would need to be four times over the limit before it had any real effect on baby. I guess it's what's defined as 'an effect on baby'... Mind you, as I doubt any of us will be having any more than a glass or two (chance would be a fine thing) it's a bit of a moot point... The thread about being 'properly grown up' has made me feel ancient...

Right, rambly catch up completed. Now going off for a huge BLT in front of the footie Grin!

Kitty5824 · 22/01/2012 14:13

Not too bad a night's sleep, but sleeping with LO is like sleeping with a tazmanian devil crossed with a farting warthog. Who spends all night vogue-ing. Badly (albeit very enthusiastically).

LOVE this!! Grin Your description. Not the reality. Our LO appear to have been to the same lessons on how to drive Mum mad. Good job they are cute huh?

NorthernChinchilla · 22/01/2012 14:49

Cheers Kitty- yeah, it's a good thing that's he's given OH and me his first smiles today, otherwise I might be seriously grumbling about feeling knackered Smile.

Will try to nap during the City game, if my OH keeps his loud swearing under control.

Kri5ty · 22/01/2012 15:23

Saul isn't too bad at night... bed around 7pm, feed at 10pm, 2am ish then 6-7am

The problem is, now he only naps for around 30mins during the day, where previously he would sleep 1-2 hours at a time
Any ideas? He is tired but just wakes up after half an hour! Someone suggested possible over stimulation when awake?