Jan 06 babies - no sleep til....!

[GeorginaP]

Hi there. Anyone feel up to joining me from Jan 06 ante-natal thread?

Lyra -quickly lots of hugs

Hope it gets better.

Off to get Tara up - dont get much time these days to post.

Hope all you other guys are well.

We're well and Tara is a great baby - happy and chatting lots. Big brother loves her.

Take care for now

MF

Lyra - how you feeling love? Sorry to hear that you've been feling so low. I can totally empathise with you. It's bloody scary when you've had it you're waiting to see if it rears its ugly head again. At least you know the signs and can go and seek help if you think ikt's coming back. Am thinking of you. You've got my number so call or terxt if you need a shoulder to cry on.

Iris - how you doing? Not so long until DH is back. It's Monday right? And how's your dad? Is it his op on 10th? How's Dom? Hope he's being a good boy for his mama. You must be knackered mate.

Hope everyone else is well and bubs are thriving. All good here although knackered as well! Think Libby is going thru a growth spurt as she's draining a 6oz bottle most feeds, plus having boob after her bottle before she goes to bed . She's a real bruiser.

Anyway, better cook DH some supper. Cauliflower cheese tonight.

All love to you gorgeous ladies

G xx

Lyra - how you feeling love? Sorry to hear that you've been feling so low. I can totally empathise with you. It's bloody scary when you've had it you're waiting to see if it rears its ugly head again. At least you know the signs and can go and seek help if you think ikt's coming back. Am thinking of you. You've got my number so call or terxt if you need a shoulder to cry on.

Iris - how you doing? Not so long until DH is back. It's Monday right? And how's your dad? Is it his op on 10th? How's Dom? Hope he's being a good boy for his mama. You must be knackered mate.

Hope everyone else is well and bubs are thriving. All good here although knackered as well! Think Libby is going thru a growth spurt as she's draining a 6oz bottle most feeds, plus having boob after her bottle before she goes to bed . She's a real bruiser.

Anyway, better cook DH some supper. Cauliflower cheese tonight.

All love to you gorgeous ladies

G xx

Lyra sorry you are feeling so low.
ds has been having a growth spurt now for about 2wks and it is getting worse. For the last two days he has needed feeding about every 1.5hrs - driving me crazy...
Apart from that all is well and looks like we will be moving into our place next weekend - oh it will be nice to be in our own place instead of in one room in someone else's although can't really say thankyou enough for them having us for so long.
Take care all!

Chuffed - just wanted to say that I think Scarlett is going through the same growing spurt as your DS... she's been wanting to feed every 2.5 hours for the past two and a half weeks! I am waiting for it to end - before my boobs fall off.

Lyra - let us know how you're doing? I have no idea what PND is like, but really feel for you being so down at the moment. Have you spoken to any of your healthcare professionals about it? Big hugs meantime.

hi all was just sitting down to catch up as both girls were in bed when Abbie woke up and wants up oh well one handed typing it is, shouldn't complain had glorious long piping hot shower and dried my hair, it's quite good as when Abbie goes for her nap I take Talia to bed with me for a lovely snuggly feed more often than not we both fall asleep, if I have a shower I can see Talia asleep on the bed still not used to having an en-suite.

Anyway Talia is doing great had her 8 week check on Friday (even though shes 10 weeks today) she was 14lbs and on the 91st centile for weight and height (DP is 5'8" I'm 5'3" so don't know where she gets it from), her routine is roughly like up at 7.30am feed x 2, sleeps until about 1pm, feed x 2, sleep from 2-5pm, then up most of the evening until around 10pm, she has gone back to 3am and 6am feeds though which are draining with Abbie up at 6.30-7am. Will need to restructure her day gradually to get her down at 8pm with Abbie so I can get some me time again but plenty time for that. She's so smiley, chatty and nosy when she's awake. She's very sociable and likes to be in the centre of the room with people cooing over her.

Loomer - with you on the growth spurt thing I think Talia has been on a growth spurt since birth shes such a chubby little bruiser!

Chuffed - thats great news about you moving into your own place bet you can't wait. We lived in my Dads 1 bed flat over the summer last year and it was horrendous.

Georgie - I am well of you getting squiffy at the weekend.

Mumfun - good to see you and glad everything is going well.

Lyra - how are you feeling today? I think we will all go through weepy days, I'm a bit up and down right now too. Please keep writing it all down here we don't mind and you are not alone, we are here to support each other too.

Iris - how are you? My DP was away overnight on Monday and that was bad enough. Won't be long till he's back now though.

Lisa - I know what you mean immunisations are so confusing. I am in favour of them and my DDs will have them all but I do think they are given too young and too many at the one time. It just doesn't seem right to bombard such immature immune systems left, right and centre .

Well I hope everyone else is doing well, Abbie is getting a bit agitated trying to fall asleep on my lap so I had better be off, take care, SK x

Hi all - didn't go to see my dad in the end . Thanks for all your thoughts though. We went to baby massage Tue morning & discovered Dom has a rash all over his tum. The nurse doing the course seemed to think it was nothing but said to keep an eye on it but then I got the most awful headache/earache so we ended up not going. I feel really bad not seeing him before his op but part of me didn't want to anyway just in case it was a goodbye visit & I didn't want to tempt fate.I sort of figured that if I didn't go then he is bound to be ok - if that makes any sense. My mum has been ringing daily saying how sad it was we couldn't go & how much she was looking forward to seeing us (not much guilt tripping then!) I really wish DH was here so I could talk to him about it. Luckily he's coming home a bit earlier so will be back on Saturaday - I can't wait!!
I noticed tonight that Dom's rash has got worse (still limited to his torso) so I'm going to pop him to the doctors tomorrow. He's teething too I think - dribbling for britain & chomping on everything & I can just see two whitish tops of his bottom teeth through his gums so I'm hoping that's what the rash is all about as he's feeding/wetting/pooing ok - just seems a bit miserable.
He's still not in much of a routine (well, none during the day really but he does go down pretty much at 7 each night then through with 2 feeds until about 5ish) but now has both boobs for about 1/2 his feeds & has just gone 4 hourly during the day as a result (rather than 2-3)so I figure his stomach has grown a bit (13lb 14 on Tues!).
Blimey - just realised how much I've rabbitted on!! oops (probably because DD is out again - I am sad lonely old crone atm - but not for long!!)

Lyra - hope you're feeling a bit chirpier. The weather's been beautiful hasn't it - hope you managed to get out (and rest - obviously!!)

off to chomp my pizza now (spinach & marscapone - yum!) take care all x

Yay!!! DH will be home by 3am tomorrow!!!
He just called to say he's on his way & that he'll take over with Dom when he gets in so I can have a lie in! What a lovely lovely man! (ooh am so loved up and he's not even here yet!!) Am soooo knackered though (have bags a coal merchant would be loathe to part with!)but DD cooked dinner tonight & I had a much needed glass of wine after the Dom-meister finally dropped off (he must have known something was up as he didn't go down until gone 8). Off to have a lovely bubbly bath & get a few hours sleep in before he comes home. Hope you all have fab weekends xx

Where is everyone! Hope you are all ok - glad dh is home Iris - thinking of your dad's op - is it the 10th?

I'm still here, just! Have family visiting! Went to "Go Ape' today in Thetford forest, DP and Little sister went clambering through the trees whilst me, Bee and mum watched from the safety below.

Hope you are all well? Bee was a star today but yesterday she was a grump... I have asked on the Health section about the possibility of teething at 10 weeks, I was naive to think it wasn't possible, but apparently it is

Must dash, take out curry should be here soon, sorry to not enquire more into everyone's well being
Love x

Hi there - just a quickie
DH is home & dad's op went well yesterday (so all's now well in the world). Unfortunately he had to stay in the resuscitation bit for 5 hrs as he didn't cope with the anaesthetic well (runs in the family - sadly I'm the same, vom all over the place for hours after ) but he's ok now - 1/2 a bowel lighter & hopefully should be back home recovering in a couple of weeks. Thank you all so much for your kind thoughts (and support whilst DH has been away)I'm really grateful.

Chuffed - how did your move go? you all settled in now? It must be fab to be finally in your own place.

Lillstarry1 - Dom is teething too (12 weeks tomorrow) Obvious gumache at various points during the day and he's been getting so miserable with it - off his food & either sleeping loads or unable to settle at all(just a phase..just a phase..just a phase )

Rach/Lyra - how are you coping with the Easter hols & all the children at home. I don't envy you at all. DD has been out mostly (I'm sure I never partied quite so hard at her age )& is going to see her dad on Thurs for a few days. It's like I've only got 1 child!!

I gave Dom his first hair cut yesterday. He had a really long tufty bit on top and massive fluffy sideburns so we decided it was time they had to go. He looks so much more boyish now and a right cheeky little monkey when he grins his new hair's a lot lighter now too so he looks even more like DH (awww)

Best go - off out to the garden centre for a mooch to keep Dom asleep for a couple of hours.

Hope you're all keeping well (obviously busy - going on the lack of posts!!) XX

hi all, all quiet here in Chez Kitty so catching up (should be ironing but ho hum). I'm feeling a bit up and down at the minute just feel like lifes getting on top of me right now. Loads on my mind as well, I have a counsellor coming around tomorrow morning though (long story) so that might help.

Talia is doing great her usual self. Still quite unsettled in the evenings but she goes to bed quite easily. Abbie was trying to feed her toast today she probably would have eaten it too!

Iris - so so glad to hear about your Dad sending you and him some recovery vibes. I bet you are so glad to have your DH home too. Dom's haircut sounds adorable too. Talia has more hair than her sis at this age who was a right baldie but it's really fluffy.

lilstarry - I think babies can be born with teeth! I do believe that they are more painful before they break through the jaw as they move about in their wee gums before they erupt through. I can see and feel Talia's under her gums just waiting. Things that were recommended to me were Calgel but I wouldn't bother with that again and Ashton and Parsons powders which are supposed to be really good.

Lyra - how are you feeling hun?

Anyway take care ladies x

Funny you mention it but Finn is dribbling loads and rather unsettled, fist in mouth etc - however this could go on for months! ds2 only had 2 teeth by 12 months.

Finn has the snuffles and is waking every 2 hrs for fluid/difficult to settle etc, it really wears you out. We had an incredibly busy weekend with all day gym, football and karate competitions. I felt fine while I was out but like crap as soon as I'm in the house for any length of time. Kids aren't on holiday until Good Friday, luckily their dad is having them a fair bit and I'm going to my mums for a few days too which will be a nice break. Looking forward to having dp at home over Easter too, his shifts are doing me in at the moment.

I Can't believe the babies are nearly 3 months (and that my wound still hasn't completely healed). Also can't believe that after a mere couple of weeks after my lochia finished I had a flooding period. Never had one before when exclusively bf, maybe down to the minipill I've just started. Makes me think I may be a little anaemic and run down - need more steak, guinness and green n blacks!

Lyra and Sweetkitty - hope you are feeling better, it's difficult to know where sheer tiredness and hormones stop and depression starts. Personally, I'm prone to irrationality at the best of times and whilst I know all the theory of CBT (even lecture on it) I still have tantrums a three year old would be proud of. Poor dp has taken to asking me how I'm feeling out of 10 before he comes in!

Iris - I'm glad your dad is through the op. Hope everything goes well for you. x

Hi. You are all way more organised than me - only just getting on the internet the last couple of weeks. Anyway I'm about to read through this thread but wanted to say hi and to moan as my dh is away with work for 2nd night running and I'm feeling knackered.

Hey quick rundown, still not in our place but looks like this weekend now. Will let you know.
Sorry to hear things are getting on top of you sweetkitty, hope the counsellor helps.
bummer on the period Rach.
Recovery vibes for your dad iris.
Lots of energy vibes going out to those that are super tired, we are here to have a nice big ulcer in my mouth and feel as though a coldsore on its way due to being tired and run down.
All and all things aren't too bad.
Starting here on the lead up to food. One week of slippery elm mixed with formula to line the gut then another week of acidophilus then we can start some food.
Just can't deal with the feeding every hour and a half it is driving me batty.
Take care all!

Hi Ladies

Just a quickie to say hi. Been a bit up and down here. DH's mum is pretty much at deaths door. We had a phone call on Sat to say that she wouls only last a couple more hours. She's a tough broad and is hanging in there. Although I wish they could just give her a huge dose of morphine and let her slip away. She has dementia and end stage breast cancer. I've been feeling a little weird as well. Not sure whether it's pnd, being shattered or whether I'm about to get my period. I don't think it's pnd. Not like last time in any case. Just more a feeling of things getting on top of me. And the sheer boredom of groundhog day that you have with 2 kids. I'm not going to let it get me down and will be off to the gym next week to exercise and get a couple of baby/child-free hours. I love my girls and DH to death, but sometimes I crave some time just for me. Hope that doesn't sound selfish.

Libby is teething as well. She's dribbling, chewing on her fist and seems to be in pain sometimes during the day. I though she was hungry at first so gave her some baby rice on Saturday. She did eat it but it not with any great gusto. Will try her again when she's 4 months old.

iris - glad all good with your dad. and that dh is back. and a hair cut for dom? bless. libby loks like friar tuck at the moment!

sweetkit - hope all goes well with the counsellor today. hope you can sort out whatever it is that is bothering you.

lyra - hope the sun is shining for you again today.

rach - have a good break. 4 kids, one dog and DP must make for a really knackerd rachey!

Love and kisses to all for a wonderful easter break.

G xx

How busy we all are, :) Hope everyone is well, or at least enjoying their little ones. It seems it's strangely comforting to know others are feeling similarly - tired, scared, upset etc! I think it's important to remember that the mums we meet/see in cafes or at ante-natel classes are the polished product, I know when I go out I try to make an effort and can at least feign emotionally stability and sanity for a few hours :) I'm pretty sure everyone has their off days/weeks/months... so long as the LO's are loved and generally cared for, what does it matter ay (ok that's my positive rant over for the time being)

Iris - Glad you have your DH back, and that your dads Op went well! Lets hope he heals nicely, it's such a worry to have someone you love poorly, especially when you can't be with them as often as you'd like!

SweetKitty - Ironing? What's that? :o Seriously not something I bother with.. Now hoovering, that I like (I'm mad - I can't abide an untidy house and actually enjoy me cleaning sessions!) Hope your counselling meeting went well, it's important to be able to unload on an impartial person.. sometimes just talking it all through seems to help!

Rach - Blooming periods! I'm fortunate to have avoided mine thus far, but who knows when it will return! I've been having kidney problems the last week or so and feeling SO exhausted, it seems almost cruel that our bodies still chose to inflict all the PMS stuff upon us! I've no idea how I'll feel WHEN it does come back!

Chuffed - good luck with the move, I hope you get into your place soon! It must be rather unsettling to not be in your own space! And lots of respect to you, moving is a stressful time whenever you do it (I was 24 weeks pregnant..and the paint fumes were addictive!) but with a LO, I shudder at the thought..so go you!

GeorgieGirl - so sorry to hear about your MIL :( I hope she doesn't suffer for much longer. No wonder you're feeling a little left of centre! It's so hard because nothing stops when you have a baby! A large part of me just wanted the world to leave me alone for a few weeks, if you need to unload you know we're all here, definitely lots of sympathetic ears!

And thanks for all the teething updates, it's not just me then! Eek! She's been a little better, I don't think she's been getting enough sleep! She's currently in her Moses basket, wide awake, entire fist jammed into her lil mouth, sucking away :) I can't believe some babies are born with teeth, then again I can't believe some women give birth to babies Bee's size (it terrifies me to think of pushing something out her size! SOOOO much respect to women who give birth to big babies!)

Well, I've certainly rambled enough. I blame the sugar, I gave up chocolate for lent, but my sister left a whole tub of 1/2 baked Ben and Jerry's in my freezer, and well, ice cream with chocolate brownies isn't technically chocolate so.. hmmmm good :)
Love to all x

hi all

sorry to have been away for so long, my big kids and dh are on the comp so much i often can't get on.

generally feeling much better now, although dh says i have to slow down and i know he's right. yesterday dd had 2 friends to play all day, ds had 2 friends over in the am, i cooked lunch for all of us, a friend of mine came over for a cuppa, then in the afternoon / evening dd, lo and dd's friend and me all went for a shop til you drop session at the trafford centre. it was fun, but alex was feeding lots in the night so going to have one of rach's duvet am's today. dh is off now, so hopefully that will ease the pressure.

thanks for all your concern everyone.

alex is officially a giant baby! at 3 months he weighs 19lb! no wonder he feeds so often and no wonder i'm knackered eh? i am losing weight though, which is great, i was 12 stone 9lb, and i'm aiming for 11 so yay!

breakfast calling so more later.

xxxxxxxxx

Hi all quick post as we're off to see my dad. He's still in ICU as they've kept him sedated because his BP is all over the place, his lungs aren't functioning & he's had to be put on constant "filtering" because his kidneys are failing too. It's not looking particularly good I seem to remember saying a few weeks ago about better to regret something you have rather than haven't done......wish I'd gone to see him before the op......

Lyra - so glad you're feeling better. Know what you mean about being "allowed" on the pc!!

Georgie - I think we're probably all at the point where we need some proper "me time" you're not selfish at all. Think you need it to stay sane!! Hope you enjoy your gym sessions

Rach - Have a good time at your mums (weather's set to be reasonable for a change at Easter!)

Sweetkitty - just a phase...just a phase...just a phase keep yer chin up lovely. Don't forget we're here for you to rant to.

Purple77 - hi welcome to the thread. What flavour did you have? date/name/weight? Other children? (am sooo nosey ) Suspect you're as knackered as the rest of us.

Hope you all have lovely weekends. Back in a week or so.

Hi - posting after only one previous message! I do read the thread from time and time and feel like I know you all.... I just never seem to find the time and feel a bit pathetic about that!
Robin, my little one, is growing well although not up to Alex's standard!

I've been a bit down as I've had a prolapse of hte vagina and cervix. made me feel about 100, especially as my hair is now falling out too! i'm being referred for physio but it looks like an op somewhere along the line is going to be necessary.
it's great to see others stories of babies born the same time and to feel that some things are normal (eg not sleeping through the night). people keep asking me whether robin is 'going through' and looking shocked when i say no. i then feel v ashamed that he in fact fed at midnight, 2, 4 and 5.30am. despite having done this twice before, i do feel like i must be doing something wrong. anyone else facing this?

and iris - best wishes for your dad. must be really hard for you x

Happy Easter everyone, just think next year our LOs will be walking and scoffing Easter Eggs who scary is that? Talia has taken to chewing her fists and eating her bibs now, might be teething but I think it's a phase they all go through they find these strange things and like chewing on them, we are sticking to 6 month weaning here hopefully.

Iris - thinking of you and your Dad, sending some positive vibes to you.

Porolli - welcome back, sorry to hear about your prolapse sounds horrendous, hope you are on the mend soon. I know what you mean about the sleeping through queries. Talia is nowhere near sleeping through, the most she can go without milk is 5-6 hours, I usually feed her at 3 and 6ish.

Lyra - wow I though I had a big baby 19lbs!!! Better being that way than underweight thats what I tell everyone.

Purple - welcome to the thread

Chuffed - good to see you too

Georgie - I'm with you on the groundhog day with 2 kids, good to get some "you" time too.

lilstarry - enjoy your chocolate tomorrow!

take care x

Happy Easter everyone! Hope you've all been enjoying the bank holiday, it's been SO nice having DP about a little more, I think he's finally gaining a better appreciation of just how big of job Bee is, completely worth it tho' even if I am completely knackered by 9pm :)

Porolli - lots of love to you, sounds like you've had a pretty awful time of late! Don't feel pathetic, just post when you can.. as I'm sure you've noticed we're all off busy being mums, that is definitely the priority! As for going through.. PAH. I know I'm fairly lucky because Bee goes down at 7, but she often wakes at 1 then again at 5/6.. but she doesn't cry too much and I can feed her and plonk her back into her basket. I genuinely believe people forget just how hard it was for them! One of my 'friends' claims her DD (now 10) never cried, and will often look at me with pity/contempt when Bee cries.. Don't let them put pressure on you, just so long as your lil'en is growing and seems mostly happy I'm sure you're doing a truly brilliant job!!

Iris - how is your dad? Hope you don't mind me asking! Lots of love to you, and don't regret your decision, at the time it was the best thing (you know in your heart this is true..don't let the circumstances cause doubt!). I really hope your dad pulls through, if you need to talk we are all here!!

SK - It is so strange to think of life this time next year! After having read a few debates I'm now keen to stick to 6 months as a weaning age.. not sure how easy it'll be as Beebe is already showing interest in food (we got a rather cute picture of her earlier holding our two spoons.. almost as if they were drumsticks!)

Well, I am rather tired and contemplating bed (at 9 on a Saturday night! O social life where art thou?)
Love to you all zzz ... I mean xxx :)

Hi - Happy Easter everyone!

Sorry haven't been on at all lately - jsut flat out with opening up the farm for the Easter hols (luckily just a week here) so almost finished. DH did his back in 3 days before we opened so I was doing all the kids and cleaning up the farmhouse (which is the cafe) ready to open.

Sorry to hear some of you have been thru it a bit while I have been off air. Sending lots of hugs and recovery vibes your way Iris. Don't beat yourself up about not going - I'm sure your dad can feel how much you love him :)

Theo has been an angel the last 10 days - he gets carted off to work, and gets fed when there is noone waiting for a latte! The last 3 days we have had one of the big girls from dd1's school to be on hand to hold him and play with him while I'm working which has been good.

He's also chewing his fists, and does that lovely thing of staring at his hands as if they are the most fascinating things he has ever seen :)

Ooh - whiffy nappy at my knee - off to the mat with Clemmie!

lots of love to all
T xx

Hi Girls,

Hope you're all doing well and enjoying the wee bit of sun we've had with you're wee ones. We've put our pool up now (an attempt to beat the hosepipe ban I admit) so it feels like summer's well and truly on the way.

Lyra - Big hugs, so glad you're feeling a bit better. Congrats on the weight loss!

Sorry not been on much this last week or so. I've not been too well (gall stones really making life a misery). I'm virtually unable to eat. I'm currently getting by on cans of slim fast and the occasional tin of low-fat soup, as anything else seems to trigger an attack. I was reluctant to have the op when they first put me on the waiting list, now I can't wait to get it. On the plus side I'm now 7lb below my pre-pregnancy weight (altho that still makes me 19st 9lb), and every pound counts if I'm to be at a healthier weight before going under general anaesthetic.

Ever since her jabs at 8 weeks Lola's had a colicky hour every evening sometime between 7 and 9pm (I know we shouldn't be complaining about only an hour of crying a day, but anyway..). We decided to try the chiropractor recommended by our health visitor. I was very skeptical, but after the first visit she did seem to improve and would let us settle her after only about 10 minutes of colicky crying. We took her for a second visit a few days later and then the chiropractor suggested we take her in straight after her next jabs which were coming up (last Wednesday), as the first jabs seemed to be the trigger before. You may recall how I posted about the awful reaction she had to the 1st ones, screaming the place down all night. I was dreading the 2nd lot. Well, we did as suggested and they said the jabs had knocked something out of whack in both her neck and further down her spine, which they adjusted. I couldn't believe it. Not only did she not have a bad night, she was even more cheerful and smiley than usual, and slept thru from 8.30pm til 7am!! She has since had only one evening where she's been colicky. I'm a convert! Last night she slept thru from half 8 til 7.10am again, I'm really hoping this is going to become a regular thing.

Loomer - How did you get on with the chiroprator for LO's colic?

Andy's on leave all this week, so it'll be nice to have some help around the place. Then on Saturday Lola and I are flying up to Glasgow to visit my family for a week so she can be spoiled rotten (she's the only grandchild, and only great-grandchild).

Quick question girls. Has anyone else not yet "got back on the horse" IYKWIM? Lola's almost 14 weeks now and I'm still putting it off. I know I had a section but I had the ventouse and forceps before it and while I'm not sore any more down below I'm scared stiff. Please tell me I'm not alone.