Jan 2012 - Higgs Boson Gang pt1

[Oeisha]

Link to antenatal thread for convenience

Not a very good title, but it will suffice 'til we fill this one in record time!

Congratulations to all that have popped so far!

Oooh, can anyone tell me why it's fine for a baby to sleep in a moses basket, but not in a cot with bumpers?!

Oeisha I've been wondering that! However I'm a very naughty girl because not only have I stopped BFing and kicked William out of our room because he is a very noisy sleeper but I've just started putting him in his own cot - complete with bumpers! Having said that, he is on a mattress that tilts and has bumper bars to prevent him rolling over accidentally and he is so very little that I cannot imagine him ever being big enough to go up to the top end with the bumpers. Even so, by then the little scamp will probably be well and truly over a year old!
Seriously, these stupid new rules are designed to scare parents, keep people in a job and to 'reinvent the wheel'. When i told people about how we're not allowed to prepare bottles and refrigerate, my friends (some of whom only had children in past 5 years!) choked on their cuppas! Needless to say, that's another rule I've broken because at night I prepare all three feeds and bung them in the fridge and when I am feeding William, I prepare the next bottle.
I've got my 6-week check next Tuesday (Valentines day!) and am gearing myself up for giving the answer FORMULA in response to the question "How are you feeding your baby?". I may just tell them other things I'm doing just to see them choke - including how William sometimes sleeps on his side!

Wills I asked my HV why every feed has to be made fresh when you're indoors but it's ok to pre-prepare bottles when you go out... needless to say, she couldn't answer and I felt it justified me pre-preparing all of Freya's bottles

Oeisha the coy bumpers thing confused me too! We have a fancypants Moses basket that has bumpers all round as its solid wicker rather than the usual flexible stuff (thanks to overly generous first-time grandparents ) so would be the same as cot with bumpers! I shall be ignoring the anti-cot-bumper brigade I think.

I phoned the local contraception clinic today to try and get an appointment to get the implant but they can't see me until 5 march phoned GP to see if they do it at the surgery but I apparently need to have a counselling session first

Oops pressed send too soon...!

Yeah so I need to have counselling to get the implant I thought the NHS were trying to encourage people NIT to have more kids!!!!

Thinking of getting a thermos flask to help with the FF. That way all we're doing is cooling the bottle, not boiling, waiting for 1/2h and then cooling...good idea or madness?
Bro made up bottles of water (6-8 each day) and then added the formula as they went, rather than doing fresh ones every time. HV seemed horrified that this might be an idea...
We're also using the cartons as "emergency" feeds...which are more often than we'd like thanks to a lack of planning.
missree counselling for the IUD...mental. Though the more I think about it the less tempted I am by it, despite depo making my hair fall out, it might be the better option. Odd, as right now I don't really want the baby I have (terrible to say, but how I feel) let another one.
I really felt like I was making progress mentally until the mastitis, so hoping these feelings fade as I get better!

Err, not IUD...implant...

I wouldn't make bottles up with cooled boiled water - I always make them up to the 70degrees rule and then pop them straight in the fridge.

Implant defo seems the right option for me - I'm crap at remembering to take pills, hate hate hate condoms, can't be bothered with going to docs every 3 months for depo and coil not an option (imo) due to endometriosis, PCOS, severe adhesions and history of huge (4 inch diameter being the biggest) cysts! To be fair, for 10 years I was told I'd never fall pregnant naturally and it took 2.5 years to actually fall pregnant so maybe I don't need contraception at all... dangerous game to play tho

How long are you storing the formula in the fridge?

No more than 12 hours. The "birth to five" book says 24 hours is safe tho.

Ah, must have missed that! Thanks

I fed my little girl from 6pm to midnight last night. She kept falling asleep and then waking up 10 mins later demanding more food she then slept til 4 and has only just gone back to sleep at 6. She's not crying or distressed, just unsettled

We went out for a couple of walks in the pram yesterday. She slept maybe a wee bit more than usual (perhaps 30 mins) but otherwise had a normal routine.

Do you think this was cluster feeding or just a reaction to a minor change in routine?

dozy congrats and welcome over here. Birth sounded great, it's a shame the post natal ward is always the let down.

parsley sounds like a classic groeth spurt to me-she is dialling up more milk.

damn-J has started squeaking sorry no time to update more xxx

Morning Girls
How is your DD today fish ?
parsley yes that does sound like clustering to me. A 4 hour sleeping spell sounds like heaven! I dont think ive had a 4 hour spell of sleep together in 6 months! Sorry you had to have her stuck to you for the entire night in order to acheive it though.
Thanks for the birth story dozy I love a good birth story! Your post natal care sounds as bad as mine...... I have been sitting on the feed back form for 4 weeks thinking that tiredness was clouding my fair judgement, but I still feel so pissed off about how short staffed the ward was. I didn't see adoctor at all and I had a CS! I will fill it out this weekend.

On the making up bottles talk, I FF both my older DC's and would make up the bottles in the morning and at tea time and store them in the fridge. I would always make them with hot water. My DC's never suffered any ill effects and are thriving 12 and 10 year olds. It makes me woner if they just say it in order to make FF look more of a hassle and encourage BF.

I wish this ice covered snow would eff off. I am desperate to get out doing some long walks. I am losing weight from everywhere except my legs and failed to get them into size 18 trousers the other day. I am usually a 14. How long after a CS can you start jogging again?

Thanks worm & fish I was lucky on the 4 hour stint last night!

I think you are supposed to wait until after your 6 week GP check before starting any major exercise. I've actually started exercising already but it's very light stuff and mostly postural. My parents came and got me yesterday and we went for a walk for about an hour which was fine. I'm housebound here because of the icy pavements and living at the top of a steep hill - they are just too treacherous to attempt it.

I see a storm a brewing. Evil mil just msgd me on fb to tell me she wants to come visit next week and i've replied to tell her it's just not convenient, followed by a passive aggressive little ' i'm sure you understand'. This is not going to go down well. Me, dh and baby cakes are donning our flak jackets and hard hats.

In other news - I git sleep from 10-1 last night, then was awake till dh got up at 6. I could almost cope with the lack of sleep though, but the sore throat and cold as well... Ugh. I feel like I've been ill since I had him and now I just want to enjoy him :-(

Think every one will go mad as dh and I are talking about baby no.6 so don't know if we want to use any thing, there you go now you all know we are nuts!

cakes- I would be the same I am not in fav of MIL's either, mine blows hot or cold or on occasion hitting me so I like my own company.

On a good note went to a bumps and baby's group yesterday and I liked the company so think I will go again.

AS for formula I boil the water then run bottle under tap then add formula then run under the tap I don't think at 2 in the morning I can stand the screaming for 30 mins while it cools. I don't do what I did 13 years ago ie make it all up and stick it in the fridge but think instantly cooling it to the temp and then adding the powder then cooling to baby temperature works surely. Pickle is a ravenous eater and I never seem to have enough milk at night.

Hi everyone I. Just found myself here after almost 3 weeks I can't believe its gone so fast, congratulations everyone who had babies in that time we have struggled with b feeding being glued to jacob 24 7 with a really bad latch and he eventually gave up trying so we went on to formula, I make it with 1/4 boiling water and 3/4 cooled boiled water and use cartons when we go out, we have bumpers on the crib and he always wakes up on his side no matter how often I put him on his back, he put 1 lb on last week and is very content now he's on formula so I'm not bothered about all thhe rules babys happy and that's all that matters x

nanny I am looking for the mind boggles emoticon-6 kids :) I am jealous of your stamina!

Had dds 1 month check and she has put on 1 kg since she was born. She's now 4.8kg and doing really well.

I can't believe she's already 1 month old already.

Is anybody using a ringsling? I have one but am still trying to get the hang of it. I can't seem to get her legs in the right position in them. Or maybe she just needs to be older before I use it?

Nanny - I'm also in awe of you too. I've always wanted 3 but find it hard at the moment to think about going through pregnancy again. PGP and morning sickness is still too fresh in my mind.

fish and scrambled I am thinking of a year, I never have a period till breast feeding stops so figure that ovulation for me won't return. The big question is wether we will use something till we are ready again. 3 was our most awkward number, no. 4 and no. 5 were easy. Figure I need to crack on as I am 39 in a couple of weeks and if they thought I was hi risk for 5 I think they will have a cow when I turn 40 and no 6. Though I really think I hate being treated lie I am going to die just because I have a large family. Certainly won't do those injections again my skin still isn't perfect yet .

Crikey. Anyone with more than 1 is a miracle worker to me...well anyone with 1 is to! I wanted 2 so Abi wouldn't be an only child, but frankly, I barely want Abi at the moment, so the thought of another one horrifies me. I keep getting told I will bond, just to hang on...just have to hope they're right.

eeep-J has just taken a dummy. Anticipating yet another 3 hour evening screamfest-(we have had one every eve) I desperately chucked a dummy in his gob and he took it eagerly and instantly fell asleep. I'm really not sure how I feel about it. DD never had one-I dont like them as a rule. he's bf'd so it's not ideal.

Fish, I hate then too, but they're the only thing that soothes baby cakes' tummy ache

I wasn't keen but figured I'd rather she had a dummy that we could take away than becoming a thumb sucker!

Similar logic here missree though the HV did mention dummies as being promoted be the FSIDs campaign...
...who are also querying tight swaddling...! No winnig is there...

Just had a bath with Abi. She loved it (or didn't scream all the way through it unlike the times when she's on the support). Checked my stitches...and fuck...they've disolved but I seem to have torn open by about 2cm. Not very deeply, but I'm guessing I should go see a nurse or something...

...really, is there ever a let up on how shit pregnancy/parenthood is???