Jan 2012 - Higgs Boson Gang pt1

[Oeisha]

Link to antenatal thread for convenience

Not a very good title, but it will suffice 'til we fill this one in record time!

Congratulations to all that have popped so far!

cakes hopefully you'll have a better day.

Mz has posted on her fb that they are still in hospital and that Ame is being tube fed and not herself. They are waiting to see what the doctors say today

Morning ladies,

Ugh, first morning having to do the school run with a baby and it was a disaster. DH went off to work with my keys so i couldn't lock the house, Jago screamed all the way through the whole thing and I got stressed and angry and ended up screaming into a pillow just to let the stress out.

I'm so fed up as to why my boy cries all the time. I'm sure dd was never like this-right now i have him in the sling, he has a clean bottom, a full tummy (big bF and some formula) and hes still crying. I'm finding myself getting pretty stressed and angry. DD never sepy much but i don't remember her just crying-she used to sit in her chair or have a quiet cuddle. I'm sure it not an allergy or something because he would be sicky or not sleeping at night as well surely-at least the nights are ok at mo-he was awake 4 times last night but he resettles well and i'm sleeping ok in between feeds. I get good stretches of 3 or 4 hours at least once a night.

Ah!fish I feel your pain. Contrary little bastards.
Whilst Abi hasn't properly screamed all night and has slept well, too well, I have had to do 3 full changes (and 2 of me) thanks to copious sudden vommiting. Serves me right for waking her at 2am as she hadn't fed for 7h...
She's only had about 120ml so far since last evening...well, shes HAD about 300ml, but booted most of it allover me/her. She's still weeing, her fontanelle and eyes aren't sunken, but she hasn't pooed for nearly 24h.
Me, well, I'm having the oposite problem...and my head friggin kills.
Thought about sticking her in the bin for collection this morning. Sounds amusing until you realise I then have images flashing randomly of her yelling, staring at me, being crushed stuck in my mind

oeisha I spoke to the MW on Friday about the pooing. I'd got myself a bit paranoid as Thea had gone from poo in nearly every nappy to only about once a day and that poo seemingly involving wind and discomfort. The MW said not to worry about the frequency - just the colour and consistency. Apparently some baies only go once every 3-4 days whereas others several times a day. She said only pooing once every 24hrs is perfectly normal.

William had a number 2 just about every nappy change and then to just once a day. It concerned me although it concerned my mum even more. She seemed to think that pooping should be done at every nappy change til I read the birth to five book which said that some babies can suddenly go from being a several times a day to an every day to a every few day pooper!

His poop was mustard yellow on breast milk then went a bit odd on SMA to green! I promptly changed him onto Aptamil and now poop is back to looking like breast milk poop.

William slept from 8:15pm until 2:30am last night and then from 3am until 6am. There was projectile vomit and a huge explosion down below at 2:30am!!! I did wake at 11:15pm which is when he normally has his first 'night feed' but he didn't wake. Paranoid, I went to check on him and he was fine but I couldn't sleep until he woke for fear of something being wrong. I wonder if it will repeat tonight? Sort of pleasing if it does because that means he's going longer between feeds and giving mummy some shut eye!

Hope MummyZoe's baby is doing okay. I had no idea baby was in hospital.

I am right in thinking there is a FB page that everyone has signed up to? If so, how do I find it?

Hi M2b - if you send a PM to cakes or fish they should be able to add you :)

I am feeling the crying pains and sleepless nights along with some of you.

Bottle Feeders - any idea what this could be... he's been feeding fine form the bottle since we changed over to faster flow teats. Now - he will have 5oz in a feed. Downs 3oz straight away, then spits it out so we burp, change nappy etc. Then he's really looking for the rest of his feed - but when it's in his mouth he is spitting it out, thrashing around, crying, pushing with his legs to get away... but then when you take the bottle away from him he screams even more and starts looking for it!!

I am getting 2 hours sleep a night. literally every night. I feed him at 10.30pm, he doesn't settle til 12.30, then it takes me awhile to get to sleep, then he's awake again at 2/2.30amfor next feed. Then same thing until 4am ish, then awake again at 6ish. doing my head in. I don't know how I am going to look after him and DD once her nursery hours are slashed next week.

plus, I have tonsilitis, again, so off to doctor for anti biotics this afternoon, as it's making me even more knackered and cranky - which is not good for anyone!!

mum2 Pm me your FB name or email address and I should be able to to find you-I will then send you a freind request and then you can be added once you accept me xx

Baby cakes is even more hungry today. An seriously considering a formula top up a3 bedtime, or at the 1am fed just so I can get a stretch of sleep at some point...

Think i'll ring the bf advisor in my area and quiz her. I wouldn't want to make the mastitis worse...

miamamma sounds like he wants to suck but not drink. Does he have a dummy? That could help.

I see we are on the topic of poo....... Megs has been slimey and different smelling for the last couple of days. I havnt eaten anything different . Would it be super neurotic if I took a filled nappy to the health visitor ? How often are you planning on getting your babies weighed? We had the 2 week and 3 week weigh ins at home then am supposed to go to the clinic. Hoe often though?

cakes Looks like I might be joining you on anti-biotics. I feel fucking terrible... (fb group has details)

worm as often as you need to...sounds panickey, but honestly, as often as you need to.

mia HV said to us she's probably not hungry anymore (my LO was monstering back 120-200ml and then getting all upset and gutty), just thinks she is and is linking the sucking. Try a finger/pacifier. If she's still hungry she'll cry...

Worm - hv told me we don't ever have to go get weighed if we don't want to, it's optional and you can go as little or as often as you wish.

As for nappies, I know over or underfed babies can produce green stools, I don't know about along smelly ones...are you on anti biotics? I have heard of those affecting the baby through breast milk...

I was on anti biotics but finished taking them a week ago.
She certainly feels heavier ! It is becoming harder to maneuver her onto the boob ! Can't imagine getting a 6 monther on there but I suppose they must help themselves a bit ?

Try a position where her weight is supported on your lap rather than your arm? I started ot taking baby cakes' entire weight on my arm, but my breast feeding counsellor helped me find a new one

miamamma

I'm not that strong and it was for that simple reasons why I couldn't BF anymore. I love my sleep, I NEED my sleep and going only 2 hours between feeds was literally sending me insane! When my mum arrived on 14th January, I was sobbing every hour and wanted to smack my FIL after his comment of "Well you volunteered for it"?!?! He seems to forget that his PRECIOUS son, my DH ALSO 'volunteered' for it too!!!

I'm no t having that problem with bottle feeding though. William usually takes 4 or 5 oz at each feed (5 feeds between 6am and 7pm and then 2 or 3 feeds between 7pm and 6am) but today he has only taken 3oz at each feed or less. We're using Tommee Tippee bottles slow flow teats. William also has the behaviour you described between hours of 4pm and 8pm. If nothing works we give him gripe water (only for 1 month olds +) and that works a treat. Having said that, by then he's exhausted.

Hi all

How's everyone? We are ok, tired and still a bit weepy. My DH works shifts and is back to work on Thursday, totally dreading it. Because the way his shifts work he has been off for ages. So now going to need to get family to pick dd up to take her to nursery in the mornings as I can't drive because of csection. Feel a bit useless.

Also ds only wants to feed from one breast - still expressing from other breast to keep up supply. Will I end up with lop sided boobs?

oeisha hope you're feeling better soon

worm I'm having that problem with, he's getting heavy to manoeuvre. I really want to try feeding lying down - have you tried this?

fish if I pm ou could you please add me to Facebook account?

Thanks for adding me to the FB group.

I've also a new name now - kept a bit of the original one so I can be recognised though!

Is it normal for a baby to have an explosive poop everyday to the extent that it leaks from the legs of the nappy? I check his nappy every time a new one goes on to make sure there are no gaps. His poop is mustard yellow (on apatamil) and seems to have little yellow grains in it (sorry TMI!!) He poops once a day now (was 6pm, now 2:30am!!) But yesterday he pooped twice in the morning.

William seems unsettled for past 48 hours. Urine output fine, temp fine, sleep is screwed up - not sleeping at 'normal times' and often just cat-naps, feeds were 5oz now down to 2 or 3 oz each feed, has had two episodes of projectile vomit in 1 week, other times spits up, sometimes more than normal, hiccups after every other feed, even his breathing is slightly grunty/wheezy although doesn't seemed distressed by it.

I hate being a new mum cos I still can't work him out. Got to go, the monster is stirring from his short afternoon slumber. Normally he sleeps for 2 1/2 hours but only had an hour so far.

Yes, explosive pooing is Abi's treat too, sometimes out the legs. And the mustard yellow and grains...also with aptamil...we were told that was all very normal.
Fluctuating feeds are fine too...worried us too. To the point we were overfeeding her and she was vommiting up what she didn't want (either dramatically out the mouth/nose or jsut slowly dribbling it out). We've foudn feeding her the 'guideline' amount, then sticking the dummy in for a couple of minutes helps. Sometimes she's just a bit over enthusiastic and wants to keep going, despite being full. The dummy seems to allow her the time to realise she's full, or, if she gets cross, then she really is hungry and wants more.

Still feel pretty terrible. Started up with vommiting too...we're hoping it was just a 'one off' but I still feel slightly queasy now. Hardly spent any time with Abi today so far. DH insists I should sleep, which will mean I can do the overnight bit at least, but I'm slowly going crazy. It's a sod, because I really wanted to start getting the hang of being with her all day as DH is back at work Fri. Ah well.

willsmum meg also grunts. When she awakes from a nap and when struggling with poo. Also when feeding she sounds wheezy, in fact she sounds like a donkey !

So William is 'normal' then? He does go through some VERY obvious light/deep sleep stages. Apparently light sleep is when they dream (?) and it is then that he is noisy - so noisy you would think he's awake. In fact he's just screamed (probably wind related) but experience has told me he does this in his sleep a lot. Will check on him though as he's in his nursery babysat by TOMY!

Well as normal as meg! I just looked on you tube there are loads of videos of babies making the same noises. I'm going to film the noises she makes when feeding and take to show at the breastfeeding group to see if its any problem.

Wow ladies, you just answered the questions I was about to ask about DD! I was a bit about her breathing as she can be very noisy sometimes, and has spells of almost gasping breaths as well as abdominal breathing. She occasionally sounds a bit rattly in her lungs too. I'm asthmatic and have had bad spells of bronchitis too so I worry about lungs! Her temp, skin, eyes etc always all normal so it sounds like they're just learning how to breathe properly (which I think I've been told before, but worried anyway!)

Hello Mummies, I'm finally joining you from the other side, but posted on FB a few days ago.

Mini dozy (aka Alina) is 6 days old now. She's happy, healthy and wonderful (OK maybe less wonderful from 3:00 - 5:30 am). I'm still sore and achy with a touch of baby blues, spent most of day 3 crying and thinking I was a crap mum, but otherwise happy.

We had a great & short labour birth, it went much better than I had expected and planed for. I was expecting an induction, heavily medicated intervention at best and EMCS at worst. I laboured for just over 12 hours with 6 hours of established labour. Ali was born at 12:06pm on 02/02/12 weighing 6lb10. My consultant was trying to bully me in to having an epidural, for fear of me having a seizure (I have epilepsy, that is medically controlled and I know when I'm likely to have a seizure) but once I was finally in labour I was confident I could do it without an epidural. I managed to do it on G&A, with a little pethidine to help with the push. I'm so proud of myself for this, I honestly did't think I was capable, before I went in to labour. How ever I did need a episiotomy (still a very sore) and Ventouse assistance (thankfully Ali's cone head has gone now).

We then stayed on the hellish postnatal ward, until Friday night, we both found it really tough. I really don't feel up to telling you about the "care" we both revived on the ward, but I'm seriously considering making an official complaint. Looking back, there were so many issues not just with me but with other women on the ward, and the vast majority were down to under-staffing, and very poor organisation. Ali had been seen by a Paediatric Dr and was perfectly healthy, however I had not slept since Tuesday I was stressed and tiered. I was more at risk of having a seizure if I stayed there and knew I could recover better at home. I spent 36 hours being told a Dr would come and assess me, when he finally came at 11:30pm on Friday, I told him that if he wasn't going to discharge me now I would discharge my self. He eventually agreed that because of my epilepsy triggers I would be better off at home. I have told my community MW about the PN ward and she is extremely angry about the "care" I received but not at all surprised given the state of our local NHS trust. She has said that I would be absolutely right to raise a complaint.

Anyway on a lighter note, my MW has been for the 5 day check today. I explained that despite having a good latch I was concerned I was doing something wrong with Ali's feeding as she had been very sickie. She watched me feed and said that it was text book weighed Ali and she had lost just 5g, she then said that we both deserved a gold star . She reassured me that I was doing a good job, was not at all a crap mum and that the baby blues and will soon pass. So I'm sat here now watching my beautiful Mini Dozy napping in her bouncy chair with a full tum of mummy milk wishing she would sleep like this at the crack of dawn thinking how very lucky I am.

Sorry for the long essay I had a lot to cover and was having MN withdrawal. Also sorry for any spelling mistakes my brain is still a little addled.

yoohoo

i am crap when tired hence i've been away for a while..........

induction went well and was a much better experience than with DS (was emergency, this time was all calm and lovely).

having exactly the same feeding issues as last time - flat nipples = no latch. but expressing a super dairy and cup feeding until my extra large nipple shields arrive in the post. charlotte seems to have a good suck on her so hopeful that the shields will work. forgot how much hard work expressing was

lovely to catch up with you all

xx

dozy welcome to the dark side. Sorry your after care was so poor.

supa expressing and EBF/cup feeding really does suck - worst of both wrolds combined. Hopefully the shields will work for you.

Odd noises: Abi often sound like a hyena/chittering insect...odd...