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ssmileWithFairylights · 17/12/2011 20:42

Hello in new thread come over and chat part two from the September edd babies arriving thread.
Just watched strictly dancing final part one but can't keep eyes open for part two so off to bed now will watch.it tom. Sleep well.....zzzzz

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feralgirl · 08/01/2012 17:10

Awesome idea candr, you should go on Dragon's Den with that one! I am considering designing a gadget that will gently rock the pushchair so you don't have to stand and jiggle it when you stop wheeling a fussy baby around!

Good effort with the feeding Ssmile and I second the kellymom site; it's brilliant and an absolute mine of info.

Sebs my DD has had quite a few stressy evenings and has also started to do an extra feed or two at night. And yes Candr I think it's common for them to have a regression in their sleeping habits at this age, DS certainly did. If you google 'babies four month sleep regression' there are bloomin' loads of forum discussions about it!

This is my mantra:

It's just a phase
These things will pass
It's just a phase
These things will pass
It's just a phase
These things will pass

ScienceGeekMum · 08/01/2012 19:18

Feral that's an excellent mantra! I will start chanting now...

My fingers have been well and truly chomped as well, DS can grab my finger and shove it straight in his mouth now. But he still doesn't know how to control his dribbling!

ScienceGeekMum · 08/01/2012 19:20

Oh and btw, in case anyone wants to join me on the couch to 5k programme, the new thread is here

tiddleypompom · 08/01/2012 19:22

Evening all!

Very interested to hear what is to come - DS is 15 weeks this Thurs and not yet hit a further growth spurt since 12 weeks, though feeds have increased in size just over the last few days. He's had a lovely day today outside in his bouncy chair whilst I garden and DH 'plays' with his bike. Grandparents over too so lots of cuddles (and hands free time for me!).

Quick question - DS has very dry cheeks. The skin hasn't cracked but I am worried it will, and then case discomfort to him. We have been putting sudacrem on it to date but can anyone suggest a good baby friendly dry skin cream? Or other advice as to how we can deal with it? He has always been dry skinned (rather flakey when he was born, which the midwife said was because he was late?) and though his cheeks are the main concern, his knees and legs are also a bit dry.

We had an amusing bathtime this eve as DS did a poo in the water - cue frantic scooping by me whilst he sat quite happily in a towel before being swilled off in a fresh bath. Revolting really but it's amazing how chilled out you can be with your own baby's poo etc!

2nd set of injections on Tues. Am dreading it - he beamed such a lovely trusting smile at the nurse last time, just before she got him in the thigh with the needle... I was almost as sad as he was!

Happy eves :)

sebs71 · 08/01/2012 19:28

Just a quick one... yes, must start chanting that one!!!

Also - Feral - no need to do any inventing... when I was looking for "things that rock" to soothe babies a few weeks ago, I came across a mat that moves back and forth - you sit the cot, pram (with brakes on obviously!) or whatever on top and it rocks back and forth!!! They're called automatic pram rockers! No idea if they work, never got one!

feralgirl · 08/01/2012 20:59

Dammit sebs! I was going to make millions! Although a mat would be a bit of a faff while you're in a cafe or pausing to chat in the street though, I was thinking of a motor that would attach to the chassis of the pram so perhaps there's still a gap in the market...

TP, a HV told me once that the best thing for baby's skin is sunflower or olive oil, pref organic, which is what we always used to use in the baby massage classes. Supposed to be good as it's natural and unscented. Might be worth a try? My GP gave me stuff called DiproBase for DS once when he had a bit of a flaky dry rash thing going on which worked well but it's very thick and smells like hospitals!

DD is still not asleep. She's lying in her cot, jabbering away to herself. She fed and comfort sucked for an hour before I left her as I was busting for the loo. I can't decide whether to go in and try to settle her or just leave her to her own devices.

She worries me coz she's such a wriggler; last night she woke up having turned through 180 degrees and got her arm caught in the bars at the foot of the cot. She was lying with her head in my bed as well so I'm thinking it might be time to put the side back on the cot and stop the nice sidecar arrangement we've got atm. Sad

Here's to some good sleeps tonight everyone.

sebs71 · 08/01/2012 21:25

Feral - you could still be on to something!!! Millions still there for the making!!

Good luck in what you choose with LO to settle. We're in middle of introducing more structured bed routine and had first tea at 8 pm on our own, with LO asleep upstairs with monitor on. She woke after 45 mins but just managed to get her back to sleep... Fingers crossed for a better night than last one

Night all... Sleep fairy dust to all!

100years · 08/01/2012 21:47

Hello again.

Well I'm a full on snot monster today, but I'm getting my voice back. I have a cough, but it's weird, it's almost like the cycle of throat, cough, snot, yukkyness has been accelerated, I've had all this before but I swear each stage of the 'illness' seems to be lasting a lot less than normal, I'm sure I've been voiceless for a week before and it was only 2 days where I really couldn't talk, the cough seems to be getting better almost as soon as it's started. Hopefully I've not just jinxed myself. I hope I feel better again tomorrow. :)

Well it gets busier for me now this week again, after the Christmas break. Tomorrow I have a blood test for the milk bank so they can use my milk. Tuesday swimming restarts :) really looking forward to this and LO is doing so much more now than she was before Christmas I think she will be able to learn the ducking commands better now. Wednesday is smear test day then food shopping delivery. Thursday I think is clear, Friday we have an appointment with a surestart centre lady to see what services they offer and if I want to join. Saturday we are at a baby and toddler art group, which after this week will actually be on a Thursday. I could go to a mum and baby coffee morning tomorrow morning, but I think I have enough on this week. I do have to go into town at some point to pick up the Highchair we've ordered and drop off the milk bank milk too. Phew, I'll be going to bed with LO at this rate :)

Ladies, I know we are all short for time at some times, and often just post little tit bits here and there. Are the # still required? I think we know that if we get chance to post we will, if we don't or if we are on our phones we aren't being rude, we're just being mums with little babies and sometimes other kids too. I'm happy to take it that if someone only posts a short reply to something then they are busy or on their phone, and if someone posts a long reply then they have the chance to do so. I won't think badly of any short replies, or that someone is rude. What do people think, should we just leave the # off the messages now? Grin

re books, I've also (whilst pregnant) read Room and The help, both great books, I think it was feral who said she had read them. And I think the little symbol on the bottom of the kindle is different on mine as it's one of those new kindles without the keypad, mine is like a box with line in it then it brings up a list of different commands and change font size is one of them. (this is off the top of my head!) I'm currently reading How to be a woman by Caitlin moran, and I'm really enjoying it.

To those who are having difficulties with LOs sleeping/feeding/napping changes, as you know I have had a few difficulties, not massive ones I grant you, but it was tough before Christmas, she was about 13 weeks when it started and it got easier again at 15 weeks, when I saw the NCT lady the other day about the referral I said about the fact LO isn't sleeping through now after having done so, she said 'that's 4 month olds for you' Looks like it's really to be expected and it's an age thing. Tough as it is, it is a stage and hopefully one that doesn't last too long for us all.

I use the cloth nappies at night, unless we are away from home, I just put an extra booster in there, usually I'll change her bum at the 4 or 5 am feed whichever it is, as she usually drops off on the boob when I feed her then, so I change her and then give her a top up of food and if I'm lucky I then get a bit longer, it doesn't always work though. But I have left one on through the night as she woke early and then didn't wake till almost normal time, it hadn't leaked - thankfully.

Naps wise, my LO has either 4 or 5 naps, all varying in length, sometimes it's only a 20 min 'power nap' and other times it a longer one of about an hour, although it depends on where she is, I had her on me the other day and she slept for 90 mins, which was lovely, just being all cwtched up.

I am like ssmile in a non routine way, I think like she said, if it works for you to do a routine, then that's fantastic, I personally found getting a night time bedtime 'routine' hard work when we first started, although I'm glad we did that, as it got an earlier bedtime for LO and a bit of free time in the evening, plus I think it's better for her to go to bed earlier now, I do the rest of it kind of baby led re feeding and napping, taking cues from her, she has a kind of similar pattern to her naps generally, although this is bound to change soon, but I am used to the whingy noises she makes when she starts to get tired and settle her then if I can. I like it being relaxed and I am glad I have done it this way and not tried to do a set daily routine. But it must be good to know exactly when things will happen sleep wise/feed wise.

TP, Can you use dibrobase or some other type of emollient on a baby's skin, E45 or something? Worth asking a HV or chemist maybe, they would know, which is best. I think my sis got diprobase on prescription for my niece, but I can't remember how old she was when she had it. My LO does also have a dry reddish cheek, it's from her sucking her hands and getting drool all over herself when her thumb comes out and goes back in repeatedly!

100years · 08/01/2012 21:53

I was posting a mammoth response and feral beat me to it with the diprobase cream comment!

feral, can you put the side up and down easily enough when she's in it? If so could the side be up while you aren't in the room and down when you go to bed and move it to your bed? I know that might disturb her though. I'm currently quite happy with it still being sidecar arrangement as there is a cushion barrier between the bed and cot and she can't roll up that yet as the cot mattress is a touch lower than the bed mattress, so even if she rolls she won't get onto the bed, it'll be different when she starts to crawl/shuffle though, then I'll have to do something about it :( Then I'll be a bit sad, but I've been fine when we have been away and she is in the travel cot not next to the bed. But I do love the ease of the side car cot.

ScienceGeekMum · 08/01/2012 22:38

100 I'm in complete agreement about the hash tags! Let's leave them off.

I still have to follow up on my resolution to sign up to swimming classes for lo, so I'm going to ask a stupid question here: what do little baby boys wear in the pool? I've seen little girlie swimming costumes but nothing for boys. Mind you I've not really looked yet! Have to look for a new cossie for me too!

100 what highchair did you go for?

Am also busy socialising this week: Monday, meeting a friend; Tuesday, my nct antenatal group friends; Wednesday, pnd baby massage course then nct postnatal group; Thursday, coffee morning with nhs postnatal group friends; Friday, meeting with pregnant friend providing she doesn't go into labour! Grin As my nct postnatal mentor says, if we were working this would be called 'networking', meeting people to make contacts, find out info and ask for help if needed. Makes me feel less guilty at DH having to work!

Hope you all have good nights x

ScienceGeekMum · 09/01/2012 01:08

Omg just did my first night bf where I didn't have to go to the loo before or after! This could be bladder control returning! Woohoo! (sorry if tmi but you ladies are probably the only people I can tell!)

ssmile · 09/01/2012 06:54

Gd on the bladder control sciencegeek mine was awful with DD1 but I've been gd at my pelvic floor exercises this time and its been noticeable better!

I use epiderm cream from DR on baby skin its emolliant that DD1 prescribed for her dry sin as baby and still has occasionally. Gd on red creashes around knees,elbows, wrists etc as can be mild exceama (sp? Gosh my brain not spelling this morn)

No repeat of my Fab sat night, babe fed at 12,2.30am, woke 5 am I ignored her and she wiggled slept till6am fed her but now can't go back to sleep as got school run.....that's what I miss about Christmas hols my lovely DH was letting me go back to sleep till 8am+ was heavenly

Ps I'm always posting on my phone :) Last tip I've been using MyfitnessPal free app on phone excellent for calorie counting if like me your on a new years diet :) my DH doing it too and its really helping me as we get competitive (he will win as has willpower of a rock when he wants to! )

tiddleypompom · 09/01/2012 07:31

Sciencegeek we have a baby wetsuit for DS - all in one like a regular baby grow without legs (in built nappy). Can stay in water longer as warmer.

Thanks for red cheek/dry skin recommendations - I think I'll ask for prescription from HV on Tues.

Anyone else not had period yet?

Typing onehanded and awkwardly hence brevity!

Get well soon 100years!

ScienceGeekMum · 09/01/2012 08:00

TP I've not had a period yet Grin but now I've said it I'll probably get it soon...

Will look into getting wetsuit, thanks.

Ssmile think it's 'eczema' spelling! Bad luck on the night, I got more sleep when DH around too. Mine woke at 12:40 and 3:50 last night, then 7:10, so not too bad.

100years · 09/01/2012 09:21

I think I go to the loo in the middle of the night out of habit, just in case, although a few times I've been too tired to bother.

Highchair, I got a cosatto noodle in the zoodle pattern, it says it's 'exclusive to John Lewis' will be ready to pick up today but OH took car to work, so I'll do it tomorrow I think. Looking forward to her being in it at tea times. Sitting up with us. Grin

I think most pools require a double nappy system, they do for all lessons to prevent accidents. So swim nappy under a neoprene thing that looks like shorts, we have this you can get a range of covers. But we've also just bought a wrap thing to keep her warm. But you still need the nappy cover thing. With the thing Tp was on about you don't need a nappy cover as its built in together. I think it's this kind of thing snug although I've just picked the brand I have. Grin I nearly got a snug thing instead of the wrap but I've already got the nappy cover thing, going to see how the wrap works if not I'll buy a snug instead.

No period here, I thought I was going to start at 8 weeks but it was just some spotting. It's not unusual to not have a period if you're breast feeding.

Cough cough cough today Sad so much for accelerated healing!

ssmile · 09/01/2012 10:44

Hope u feel better soon 100

We use the happy pants wetsuit bottoms and a swim nappy in the pool but DD1 did do a big pooh in the happy pants when not wearing a nappy when at the beach and it held it all in as the legs are tight. The wrap around wetsuit jacket is veasy to put on the other suit looks hard to? as its got tight arms &legs?

Thanks for spelling sciencegeek I have blocks on certain words and eczema is one of them :) I spell phonically in my head prob explains why I'm an analyst by trade much prefer numbers :o

100years · 09/01/2012 11:13

Thanks ssmile. I think eczema is one of the really really awkward words to spell to be fair, diarrhoea is another word that's just stupid. We're swimming tomorrow so I'll have a comment on the swimming wrap after that. Grin

jimmijam · 09/01/2012 13:42

argh builders in-dust everywhere!! glad i thought ahead and covered a lot up with sheets, ds1 fell asleep around 10am on the sofa even with all the noise, still asleep now! will wake him for lunch soon.

no periods here yet,hoping its down to implant rather than bf. just hd some spotting a week or so after getting implant, end november ish

anyone else here still snack lots?
have just made myself a 5a day chart, i get a tally for each of my 5 a day and also a bad tally for all the crappy snacks i eat (yesterday bar of choc, choc cake, jaffa cakes, sandwich....). doubt it will work but am oping if i see written down all the rubbish i eat everyday that i'll cut down at least a bit or swap it for something better

not read all posts but c something about eczema- runs in dh's side of family, only ds1 got it at baby age, got some cream from dr it cleared up and never came back. dd also has creams from dr which she occasionally needs and work a treat

feralgirl · 09/01/2012 14:50

Goddamit, DD had her first swim session this morning and I am buggered if I can find the neoprene wrap anywhere. I am so unbelievably irritated about this! I really need to do some full-on de-cluttering and now that I have some extra energy (thanks to the C25K program and Geekmum's excellent motivational thread Smile) I am thinking that I am going to do some hard core spring cleaning during DD's next long nap!

DD was a heller last night; she didn't go to sleep until nearly 10pm and then woke four times during the night. I need to do what you do Ssmile and ignore the wiggling. I think I'm too quick to pick her up and feed her back to sleep for an easy life as she quite often has a dead quick slurp and then drops back off again, leaving me wide awake and needing the loo!

100 we haven't got a proper sidecar cot, it's just a normal one with the drop side left off and wedged against the wall to keep it stable so not something that can be easily altered. I might pinch your idea of a cushion barrier though and see how that works, my widgy pillow's nice and firm so that might do the job. I could just have the drop side left down but then I have to actually sit up to get at DD and that's a PITA at 2am.

Anyone else's baby found their feet? DD's toes are her fave new plaything - uber cute - but she hasn't managed to get them as far as her mouth yet. She is getting so good at wriggling around on the floor using her arms and legs to push herself. My mum claimed that DD had managed to get her knees up under herself and her bum in the air as well but I am a bit Hmm about that. My mum seems to always be the first to see my DCs do anything new Hmm

Sebs I am seriously thinking about the pushchair rocker thing. I reckon a windscreen wiper motor set on slow might do the trick. I have this vision of gizmo where you put the brake on on your pushchair, press a button and it just kind of bounces it a bit, like the motors on vibrating bouncy chairs. I have an old bouncy chair in the loft si I might even try taking the motor off that to see if it's strong enough. Now I just need a good name for my invention...

sebs71 · 09/01/2012 16:53

How about a rock-a-doodle... All baby things seem to have silly names!! You go for it... Think you're onto a winner.

Busy day... Left her with grandad for just under hour for first time... Went fine... He took her for pram walk and then to friends! I had eye test. Then supermarket then rushed back just in time for her feed and promptly the dog ran off. Nightmare. Had to put food away, feed her, she pooed on me so bathed her... And dog still not back. In end OH came home from work and found him in the village.

Any tips on how to get a baby who will sleep happily in arms but wakes up as soon as you put her in her crib to not do that???? After her feed at 1 am she took 1 and 3/4 hours to put her back down... Bit tired today!!! But night routine thing went well and she's had good naps today because of car journeys and walks!!

sebs71 · 09/01/2012 16:55

Oh and yes periods started but then they came after stopped breast feeding. Now on cerazette and whilst doc said I might get no periods I'm currently on my second in 45 days and heavier than normal ones :( not good...

Oh must go...LO just done another poo ...

candr · 09/01/2012 17:10

TP, we grease DS up in olive oil after bath and it is fab for his skin and non greasy. No period here yet but am still ebf.
Feral, he has kind of found feet, he poed one of them and it twitched which made him jump.
100yrs, good tips for swimming, hope you feel better soon.
Sebs, my LO often wakes when I put himdown so hve started waiting till he is drowsy but awake in the hope he will self settle but the 1am is a killer to stay awake during feed then settle him (I often give in then and let him sleep in bed till 3.30am feed) Glad you found your dog.
We went and fed ducks today, he didn't seem fussed but I enjoyed it.
DS is in door bouncer which he loves but find he needs to be grabbed before head butting door frame which is annoying.

100years · 09/01/2012 18:29

Snacks, yeah if I can, and if I make stuff, erm it goes really quickly!

feral the cushion we have as a barrier, is one that came with it, I have read of others putting the mattress slightly lower than the bed mattress and using a towel to cover the gap. I don't know how safe it is as there would be a lip of bed mattress that your LO could end up wedged next to and no room to breathe, unless I'm over thinking it?

sebs, I think it's the age to be honest, I have read that the 4 month sleep regression thing can take it's form in the difficulty in getting them to settle. I'm not sure how to help.

thanks candr, and you're welcome. We also have a door bouncer, so far she's not come near the door frame, but having read things about it I am very watchful of it.

Had my blood test today for the milk bank donation, I have to be tested for all the usual HIV, Hep B and another one before they can use my milk, and so although I was tested in pregnancy I still have to be tested now for all of them.

Managed to pick up the high chair this afternoon too, and although it's not set up yet it probably will be by tomorrow tea time :)

I think there was something else I was going to say, but I can't remember. Oh yeah, had a phone call from the HV today who sent in the referral for the TT snip, she put the referral in on Friday, I have the name of the doctor there and although she said it could be a couple of weeks, she said it wouldn't hurt to ring them and say a referral has been put in and ask when it will be and if there are any early spaces. I'm probably going to do that, due to her age and knowing after a certain age it gets harder to do and also because the last 24 hours have been really quite painful feeding and my nipple is coming out a slightly odd angle/shape again. Painful feedings. :( Plus she's done a few clamp downs, which hasn't helped things!

And I've messed up my hair colour! It was brown, had been red, let this be a lesson, colour b4 might take some of the colour out, but not all and so when I put a blonde colour on, I ended up ginger with yellow roots. I've gone over it again with another one this evening, but as yet don't know how it looks as the light is shite in the flat.

ScienceGeekMum · 09/01/2012 21:47

Yep, been trying not to snack so much though since Christmas. It's hard, I feel hungry all the time!

Thanks for the tips re swimming, I really appreciate it. I have a mothercare voucher so will see if there's any wetsuits/ wraps there I can get.

Lo had a right old giggle this afternoon when I was tickling his tummy. He's getting more and more interactive, which is great Smile. We have also started giving him tasters of what we're eating - little tiny bits of sauce or mash potato on our fingers; don't know if that's the safe thing to do but he seems to enjoy it (and the amount is so tiny I'm sure it's fine). We are still planning on leaving weaning till later but want him to get a bit of taste developing.

On phone so can't remember who said their dog went missing - glad you got him back!Grin

ScienceGeekMum · 09/01/2012 22:25

100 I found jelonet gauzes cut into squares and put on the nipples between feeds helped a little - I stored them pre-cut in the fridge so they were nice and cool to put on. Please remember what I said about tt - even after snipped it can take a while for lo to learn how to use tongue. I don't want you to be too disappointed as it will work eventually, but perhaps not straight away. Best wishes with it.