September 2011 babies are rolling into 2012

[ssmileWithFairylights]

Hello in new thread come over and chat part two from the September edd babies arriving thread.
Just watched strictly dancing final part one but can't keep eyes open for part two so off to bed now will watch.it tom. Sleep well.....zzzzz

100 sorry BF is still hard but I echo geek that getting TT cut will still take few wks to settle down as they have to relearn how to use their tongue. My Lo keeps clamping her jaw on my nipples and it hurts. :( I keep taking her off with firm No. To start with she just gave me biggest smile now couple times she has cried as her milk was taken away for 20secs. Not sure if it helping or not but her reaction to my NO meant she did understand the tone of my voice I think. I then tried a smiley WellDone when she carried on feeding no clamping :) I'm prob bonkers but it does bloody hurt!

She had green nappy poo yester day which concerned me a bit, but I think its combination of her feeding lots last couple days as she recovering from her cold bug and teething. I'm hoping its not linked to me calorie counting as I'm trying to do 1500 calories a day healthy eating plus hours walk. Does anyone know what you add on for breastfeeding? I've allowed myself extra 250 calories a day.

Thanks both. Yes I'm quite happy for it to take a while to settle down, but sooner done sooner it starts the tie seems thicker than it was, she can move her tongue around, but the base of the tie looks different, like it's attached wider than I remember.

I've not got cracked nips yet, just very tender ones. Will the jelonet help or does it just help cracked?

Better night. She us taking to the bed time routine well and it's strange but good having an hour before we head up. She is going asleep about 8 and we go to bed at 9 now the same time as the kids... In fact DSS is probably the last to switch lights off now! She also settled better after 1 am feed and settled herself a few times... Guess it takes repition and practice

Think it's 500 extra calories for bf

Dad has on op on his shoulder today... Hope he's ok. Although only shoulder he'll have full anaesthetic and being 74 next week and having pace maker you do worry ....

Personally 100 I'd use them before they got cracked, straight out the fridge so it's nice and cool. May or may not work for you. Sometimes I added lanolin cream as well. Don't stick them under a hot shower either - eek that hurts!

Ssmile I think I read somewhere that it's 500 extra for bf, best do some research... But was also told that the milk would be made as a priority so you won't have done any damage if I am right!

Sebs hope your df is alright today.

My lo had a worse night, up four times, but this morning he has the sniffles so he might have a cold developing, could that have caused him to wake last night?

Sciencegeekmum - we do the same to give DS tasters, he seems to like it but will leave proper weaning till 6m.
Ssmile - we have had green poo but HV said it was all fine, should only worry if it is black or red.
Sebs am at your routine as DS can take from 20 min to 2 hours to settle so loose my evening with DH but do catch up on reading (also read to DS now and he really seems to like books)
We had projectile vomit at 3.30am which covered DS, myself and bed. Had to get DH to change bed, he then dumped pukey sheets on it so had to change again then did DS nappy after we had washed down and DS peed over bed so 3rd set of sheets and covers. A lot of laundry today. I had been in tears after 4 hours of trying to get DS to bed but he kept screaming, was almost a relief when he was sick as I now know it wasn't me being emotional that stopped him sleeping. As soon as he was clean and dry he wanted food again though. Really not sure how long to make him wait after vomit before feeding so let him have a bit and he slept for 20 min then a bit more etc. He is almost back on track and has slept for 1.5 hr now. Hope we don't have a repeat tonight.

I've been trying to find out how many calories to allow myself extra for breast feeding and as per usual lots of conflicting advice on the net! Lots of places say 500 calories used to make milk but your bodies metabolism slows so you don't need to eat that amount extra, the advice appears to be eat min 1800 calories but again depends on your body as we all different. I didn't lose any weight BF DD1 and I'm not losing any now hence my quest to try find out more and nudge it along a bit with out compromising milk supply. I'd be happy losing 1-2lbs a week. I've just done Day1 of the shred dvd was gd and hard work! Hoping that helps too. For those doing C25k How is the running going?

Oh dear candr hope u have better.night tonight

Geekmum hope your LO gets better.

Candr... Yikes bad night... Hope your day has been better.

Just phoned hospital and dad ok... And maybe out tonight. He's going to stay with us for a bit... Be nice to have the company.

Oh LO crying now must go...

candr you poor thing! I hope your ds is better tonight, sounds like a nightmare!

sebs glad your dad's ok, hope he recovers quickly

Ssmile the dreaded shred? I've got it but haven't the guts to try it yet, am only up to week2 in the running so may try it when I've finished week 5 of running! Impressed with you!

sciencegeek I found the shred hard but doable its basic stuff star jumps,skip jumps, pushups etc but I can't run at all! :o I liked the idea of 20min workout but I'm crap at pushups could only do the cheat ones but surprised myself by doing 2sets of 10 I think its carrying around the babe a lot has built up arm muscles.

sebs hope your dad recovers ok and you enjoy the company.

Hello lovelies, been a bit tardy with MU check-ins ! Rediscovered knitting because dd1 wanted to learn and just knitted a teddy bear with scarf and hat for ds1 - he loves it so much he took it to show and tell at school today (it's really not that impressive !)
So tired so won't do a big update but while I remember, science my degree was public administration which consisted of politics, sociology, law, social policy, health studies blah blah blah. I wrote my thesis on a comparison of public health and social policy in the present day and the victorian era - just really loved the subject. If you like the historical side you would love the bill Bryson book called something like the history of the home - amazing and fascinating. Your degree sounds amazing.
Thinking of you all, whatever trials you are facing.

Minky your thesis actually sounds like something I'd read! I loved all the history about public health eg Snow and cholera, going back further Semmelweis and hand washing. Will try to findthat bill Bryson book, I love his other ones but haven't seen that one.

I need to get back into my knitting, am finding it a bit hard to find time though with DS being a pfb as I am always either playing with or feeding him! Once he's in bed it's housework or running. I really want to try knitting him another sweater, although my mum is keeping us in stock with those, lovely dusky greens and browns too so not just the standard 'baby colours'.

Ssmile I didn't realise it was 20 mins, thought it was 30! Even better!

Sebs hope you dad is ok

Had a terrible night last night

Dd is back at nursery so visited a friend yesterday and feel better for getting out and about.

Have submitted dd's school application scary and weird to think that ds is going to be the oldest at school and yet if born a couple of weeks earlier he would be the youngest. have got Appts through for her hearing and allergy testing so all moving the right way in prep for school.

Haven't got round to booking my smear or implant yet, must try and do that this week. Ds has his third jabs next week

Dh came home and announced he has next week off . I can't wait, lots of rest and family time hopefully.

I use oilatum (sp) on ds, left over from dd, his head is especially bad but also dry most other places.

It's scary that he's growing out of clothes can't believe how fast it goes.

Gosh babe has been feeding most hours in daytime the last 3 days I really hope this is just growth spurt and will pass soon! It's tiring but she also teething lots dribbling and rash on her cheeks &chin. The clamping has eased which is good so less ouchy now :)

Hope everyone doing ok? Did u see the article on BBC website that breastfed babies cry more. Well I've had two, first one cried loads, this one very chilled out and both breastfed!
I think the sentiment behind the article was that babies do cry prob more than you expect as first time mum but BF babies may be hungrier or need feeding more frequently.

Thanks Sciencegeek, I'll get some, I certainly think coolness would be lovely at the moment on them post feed. I think I'm like you re knitting and PFB, although for me it's crochet I want to start again doing. I've done a couple of little bits, but feel odd when I could be doing something with LO, I think she's getting more independent now and so I'm leaving her play with things more, now she can grab things.

sebs, I've had 2 shoulder ops, both under GA, hope your DF recovers well.

ssmile, my LO doesn't cry a lot, my OH pointed that article out to me, she's a very contented little thing and is EBF on demand. I think it also said that FF babies may not cry as they may be overfull.

Well LO has started rolling both ways more, before it was just a couple of times she went the other way and I wasn't sure she knew how or what she was doing, now I think she knows which is lovely. She's also shuffling along the floor, bum in the air, legs brought closer, push, repeat repeat repeat, moves about 1cm each time! 1 step away from crawling! TOO SOON, TOO SOON!!!!!!

Lunch time for me now, catch you later.

Sebs hope your Dad's OK and that he has a nice time with you.

Ssmile, that's interesting about BF babies and crying isn't it? Mine are the same, DS was a howler but DD is much more chilled. Dunno if that's down to me or them. Good on you for the shredding; I haven't got the nerve but might chance either that or the new Davina DVD once the running has got my fitness level up a bit.

Wow 100 DD is also doing the snakey-wriggle thing along the floor. DS crawled quite early (but then walked very late) so I'm waiting to see if DD is the same. DD also does the sky-diving thing where she kind of lies on her belly with her arms and legs braced up in the air, v funny.

Had second lot of jabs this morning

Snake-wriggle thing, yep, that's a good way to describe it. Yep to the sky-diving thing :) Hope LO is OK after the jabs.

Snake wriggling :o my Lo seems to be more mobile if she has bare feet. She can scoot on her back using her legs to push off tends to do it at bedtime on bathroom floor or bed. But she not turning over yet doesn't seem interested too laid back I think :) she will be 20wks on Fri seems like time is whizzing by........

Who was it that just asked about what to do when they sleep on you but wake up when put into the cot? I meant to say that I use the shush-pat method with DD which works quite well but I have to steel myself not to pick her up if she starts grizzling and I do often drop off myself whilst lying next to her! It worked really well with DS and was one step along the long road of him being able to self-settle. Shush pat works really well for us as DD is a front sleeper anyway and we have a sidecar arrangement for our cot so it's easy to get at her.

My mate swore by the pick-up-put-down method which sounds like bloody hard work and you need to have a very strong back. I think it's a Baby Whisperer thing. For those who don't know, you let them fall asleep on you then put them in the cot. As soon as they start crying, you pick them up. Then rock/ feed/ sing them back to sleep and put them straight down again. Then as soon as they wake up, you pick them up again and rock/feed/sing back to sleep... you get the picture... repeat until they eventually stay asleep when put in the cot. Theoretically you have to do this fewer and fewer times each time you put them to bed and they will learn to self-settle but imo much harder work than lying next to them and rubbing their back until they're in deep sleep!

The same friend used to take off the top she'd worn that day and put it over the crib mattress too so that her DD had the comfort of smelling her!

Alternatively just feed them to sleep, cuddle until in deep sleep then place veeeeery gently in the cot (sometimes helps if it's been warmed first with a hairdryer) whilst repeating through gritted teeth, it's just a phase and these things will pass.

PS Loves are you actually wearing skinny jeans? Or are you just taunting me with your skinny legs and nice bum I have only just started wearing non-maternity trousers!

Even pre-baby I couldn't get away with skinny jeans

Feral - it was me who asked about the putting baby down ... thanks for the tips. Looks like we're doing a version of the put down, pick up thing anway - and it is actually getting easier. Her sleeping is much better now - it's ours that isn't too good - after her 2 am feed, she fusses/kicks/noises every hour - she herself sleeps through but you have to stop her hitting herself or listen to the fussing... so from 2am I'm sleeping for half hour every hour - so you don't ever get a deep sleep... (the first half of the night she sleeps really well). Interestingly, I read an article on 4 month sleep regression (after 100years mentioned this) and it almost described my LO's sleep to a tee...!! We'll get there... and will keep repeating your mantra again and again!!!!!!!!

My LO shuffles about a lot on her playmat and ends up in all different shapes and positions, but never quite in a line so think crawling a way off yet. She still doesn't liek being on her tummy... I actually wonder if she'll go straight to shuffling on her bum and then standing and miss out crawling? I did this as a baby as I was one of those clicky hips babies with double nappies... so had lots of padding round my bum and decided bouncing on my bum was easier than crawling! Maybe my LO has the same idea??

Ssmile - 20 weeks???? Crikey... where has the time gone??? That thread when we were all waiting for our EDD seems like an eternity ago! Mine is 17 weeks on Friday (3rd jabs tomorrow :()

Thank you for all your comments re my Dad. He came out of hospital yesterday (so in and out in one day) and is staying with us. Currently asleep on the arm chair and LO asleep in her swing! Mind you, DSD will be home from school soon so silence will be broken!! But lovely having the company espeically as OH is going on the oil rig for the day tomorrow which means 5.15am start and home really late, so will be nice to have another adult to help - even if he can't pick her up, he can supervise whilst I can also deal with the DSKids.

And, the comment re BFing babies and crying - can't see that being true. All babies cry, some more than others, and doubt it has anything to do with BF or not. They should spend their time researching better things - like how to get babies to sleep through!!!!!!!!!!!!

And yes, Loves agree with feral ... very of your skinny jeans if you are in them??? I've been on my diet for a week now... but haven't weighed myself so don't know how I'm doing! I've been good though. (Can't bring myself to weigh as I'll be soooo shocked I'm sure!) I usually go on whether clothes feel better or not, and as yet, not much difference... really need to shed some weight though if we're getting married in June... might have to be September!!!!!!!!!

Tongue tie clinic appointment tomorrow. Fingers crossed all goes well and makes a difference. They might not do it then because of age but we'll see what happens.

I used to put LO down in her cot after her last feed for longer periods after a snuggly cuddle. Eventually she settled herself - though thumb sucking helped us, I'd pick her up if she was crying but leave mini whinges unless they got worse. They often did so I'd pick her up. But on the occasions she didn't get worse she'd settle. I found it just took time for her to learn it. It's not easy though and she still has nights where it doesn't work and I cuddle to sleep or almost asleep then put her down.