September 2011 babies are rolling into 2012

[ssmileWithFairylights]

Hello in new thread come over and chat part two from the September edd babies arriving thread.
Just watched strictly dancing final part one but can't keep eyes open for part two so off to bed now will watch.it tom. Sleep well.....zzzzz

I seem to be in the same boat sleepwise, had one great night with 2 feeds and downhill since then but think he is cold. He will sleep in our bed b ut cause he can smell milk he wants to stay attatched which is not great. Off to mum's for 3 days so some extra hands. He has also discovered his screeching ability which is funny but not at 4am when he wants to play!
Snowing here now (Berkshire) so hope roads ok in the morning.
Those that asked about me being a twin, I hate it but my sister likes it. My DS spent a long time staring at her so I wonder how alike we look to him. Am scared I will have twins when we try for number 2 as they run in DH family, would have to move house which would be a pain. Have good weekend all

candr my DH is a twin and hated it too as his sister was miss drama queen very demanding so he got overlooked alot as kid. Now she has mellowed a lot and I like her think we have similar traits been both quite energized, vocal people :) in fact we've asked to put her down as our next of kin as she is raising her two girls vsimilar to us so it can't all be bad.

My Lo also likes being awake 4-5am but I mostly leave her in her cot and she goes back to sleep eventually. Hope you don't get too much snow.

Ok, my turn for a meltdown today. Haven't felt like this since I left hospital and had the baby blues. Couldn't stop crying... think it's a mix of tiredness (LO still not wanting to sleep in the crib...) and the thought of OH going away. As soon as he'd gone (at 4pm) I felt sort of ok - in that it's happened now and I just have to get on with it.

She's still not sleeping in her crib, spent the night in our bed again. Just does not want to be in her crib. Tried all sorts, including letting her cry but I am just not cut out for that method. Couldn't do it for long before picking her up. Still, it's just her and me for a few nights, so she'll have more room in the bed if she won't go in the crib again.

Was going to give her some baby rice today, but just didn't quite make it. So will aim to start tomorrow. I've even got some pureed butternut squash in the freezer! (Had extra so thought I'd might as well start pureeing!)

Well, didn't get any snow! Think we're about the only area in the country that didn't. In fact, it's been a nice day here, and nice to not feel freezing temperatures. Hope you're all ok and not snowed in!

Oh sebs hope you have better night I'd just go with sleepin in the bed together until you feel better if it means you get some sleep theres plenty of time to do sleep training later if you need to. Honestly I battled nightly keeping our eldest in her bed and none of us got any sleep. With this one I've been much more relaxed and as a result she is too I think. Most nights she in her cribb next to my bed on a fleece blanket with a towel under one end of her mattress as she has never liked sleeping flat. I also if its cold put a blanket over her feet in her sleepin bag after about 2am to stop her getting cold. If she doesn't settle post 5am she comes in the bed sometimes half lying on a pillow and drops off straight away. Gd luck whilst OH away.

My DH was lovely today, helped around hse, took girls out for 1.5hrs so I had much needed nap, and cooked me dinner. He had said he was tired after a long 6day wk of 12hr days, I just quietly said "me too and I do the night shift", it pricked his conscience I think :) on Lo front the two meals of rice and banana resulted in far better night only two wake ups :) hope it continues....

Sebs but hope you have some nights of lovely snuggles with DD. My DD is in her cot next to me but we've taken the drop side off and put it on bricks so it's kind of an extension of our bed but with a baby-friendly mattress. I generally spend most of the night with my arm around DD and her snuggled against me under a corner of my duvet.

As Ssmile said, they're still so little so I reckon it's easier to just go with the flow as far as possible. They'll all get there in the end, in their own sweet time. That said, I wasn't nearly as philosophical when DD woke every two hours last night

DH has done the most wonderful thing for me, he's gone to the spa up the road from us and bought me a £60 gift voucher and booked me in for an hour of whatever I want on Thursday. I am a bit and I did cry a bit when he gave it to me yesterday. So my lovelies, maybe you should make some pointed comments to your DPs about how it's nearly Valentines Day and you could really do with some pampering!

Sorry I can't reply individually but thinking of you all having a tough time of it and sending you virtual hugs. I am onto second night of dh being away on his snowboarding holiday and have majorly put my neck out which is agony and all my usual meds are just not touching. It's so painful I feel dizzy and sick. Was up all night with cramp too in my leg so look like a zombie today. Heard from my dhs friends wife (he is also on trip) that they drank so much on their first night away that dh was actually ill - almost made me feel better if I didn't feel so cross that he can have such a large night and cope with a hangover when I am left struggling with three kids, a bad back and zero sleep and it's not self inflicted . It's going to take something pretty thoughtful for me to feel happy with dh on valentines day that's for sure - so dint think I will even expect to enjoy it !
Lo sleeping only 2 hourly at night and dribbling like mad. He also has a gunky eye, snot bubbles and a bad cough. Could do without having to be up at the crack for the double school run . Hope you all have a better night

Oh gosh minkyj I really hope your OH can make it upto next week. Can you have a spa day /wend or something in the spring leave him with the kids?!

feralgirl that sounds lovely hope you can relax and enjoy it :) I always feel SO guilty when away from Lo at the mo even though it does me good. I keep dropping hints at my DH but its hard to leave Lo for more than 2hrs as she won't take a bottle or cup yet. I may work towards having a day off at Easter instead when Lo more weaned.

Off to school now, hope u get some downtime in the day minkyj

tiddleypompom - agree about the cold hands

tiddleypompom - just tell me when and I'm there

Ferel - maybe you should organise a meet up for us all!

Everyone hope the snow isnt causing you too much trouble.

I've been keeping a record of ds and his feeds and nap and can actually see a pattern emerging. Plus have actually got his into bed for 8pm a couple of tines

Minky big hugs your way. Your DH definitely needs to make it up big time to you.

My lo is waking every two hours too, plus knowing this means I'm sleeping more lightly with an ear open for the next wakeup iyswim. Although I'm sorry that others here are going through the same thing, it's nice to know I'm not alone, my NCT group seem to be having a much better time of it and I feel a bit of a failure that my lo is too small, still takes both boobs and wakes throughout the night. At least I'm not dealing with it in pain like Minky is.

I can't imagine doing this with other children too, hats off to you all.

Queen. Tge truth is sone of those peopke are lying. I know someone who does this. Taking both boobs is not a failure or bad thing at all. Are they all bf? Every baby is different. Dd slept through from 8 weeks, ds has not gone through the night yet. Dd would go down awake and then drop off after about 20, ds won't stay in his cot unless he agrees it's bedtime, dd was a one side feeder ds will often have both. Dd was over 8lbs at birth, ds was 6 and a half.

Have you tried keeping a record of feeds and naps? You might notice a pattern. Chin up you are doing a great job, look down at lo and remember you did that, every oz of him!

sebs, I'll let you know when I'm up that way next then :)

TP can me and LO come too?

Hugs to those who had shocking weekends with their LOs and for those who have been upset. Seems like it's been a bad weekend for most people. Glad for the few who have had good weekends.

Minky, I hope your DH has some special stuff planned when he gets back.

Well we had to cut short our weekend away, we were supposed to be away for 3 nights, but had 2 nights in the end, LO was not very well, and much as it seemed to be only a cold when we left home it seemed to get worse, and I just didn't want another away with her poorly, I also felt mega mega guilty for being away from home with her poorly. She was/is fine in the day, although she sounds like darth vader as she is snotty, but in the evening she then seems to deteriorate and get upset and you can hear her throat being sore. Poor thing. But now OH and I have come down with it too. So I'm croaking and snotting too. But at least being at home I feel more comfortable with it and have propped the end of the cot up and she's slept in her cot the last 2 nights.

Thanks Ssmile and Feral... I actually can't quite believe it but LO went down at 8pm and slept till 5am...!! She fussed every hour on the hour and I had to stop her from hitting herself awake or give her the dummy, but WOW... Unbelievable! So, I had lots of 45 mins to 1 hour sleeps, and didn't get to sleep for ages, but I don't care, as I'm so proud of her! She fed at 5am, then slept again at 6.30 till 8 - so I managed another hour of sleep and that really helped and woke up when OH text to say he was boarding the flight to Algeria!

Thanks for your comments - I think you are all right - I'm probably expecting too much from her, she is still so little. You get so much of "But my LO sleeps through" and "Oh, by now they should be sleeping through" from others including HVs that you feel a failure or feel like you've done something wrong from the start. - As geekmum said her NCT group all saying that... But your comments make me remember just how little she still is and like you said, there's plenty of time for her to settle - and maybe even last night was a sign of better things (or a one off!!)

I'm going to start some baby rice with her at lunchtime! See how that goes. Think she is ready for it now.

Minky - hope this week goes ok for you, and your neck gets better. And, hope you get spoilt on DH's return...

Feral - oooh, how lovely. Must remind OH of Valentine's day when he returns from his trip and 3 nights of undisturbed sleep!!!

So from now on I'm going to try and chill and stop worrying if we have bad nights - I think the cold hasn't helped and it was better last night as wasn't so cold. ssmile- I also have a blanket as a sheet after you suggested this ages ago and have used it ever since! The crib is right next to our bed, but she's starting to get a little big for it, as she wails her arms around! But the cot would be too big for our room and want her more settled before we move her into her own room (which I'm dreading!)

So, new mantra - "Chill chill chill... she's still only little"

Yeah I'm dreading LO going into her own room too. I love having her so close to me, but I know I'll have to do it, for now though I think we have a week or two left of it being a sidecar cot, she has actually rolled out of it once while she was awake but I think a bit of creative pillow placing will keep it safe for now. When the side goes up we'll just move the bed across a touch and put the side up until I'm ready to have her go through to the other room.

I had a dream she was standing in her cot last night!

Hope you feel better soon 100 its crap being away from home when you feel poorly.

If it helps sebs I felt utter failure at times with my first she was a very poor sleeper, I stopped going to the antenatal group as got fed up with being made to feel crap by all the "oh so she not sleepin through yet then...have u tried this..." from most of the other smug mums and HV. She was then and still is a lively, intelligent, lovely little girl who still only needs 9-10hrs sleep despite the fact that school is finally wearing her mind out! This has made me a lot more chilled this time and lowered my expectations A LOT on sleep. They all get there in the end.

This morn we tried pear mashed with a fork a little cool boiled water and baby rice and Lo wolfed it down. I've also cooked up some suede, butternut squash, carrot &sweet potato to try this week. It looks very cute lined up in little pots in my fridge :) I on the other hand majorly fell off my diet at the weekend eating chocolate, biscuits &big dinner stuffed 3000 calories in against my 1400daily limit so I'm eating lentil soup for lunch. Hohum start again today. But boy the cookies tasted yum :)

100 - thank goodness it was just a dream!!

Thanks ssmile - there is so much pressure on you to "get it right" and have your LO doing what's expected. But as you say, they all get there in the end, and I'm sure even those babies that do "go through the night" early on, have problems later on.

Yay to the masshed pear! My LO had her first taste of baby rice today. Seemed to enjoy it, though kept pushing her tongue out - not quite got the chewing motion, but I am guessing this comes in time. She did eat it and really seemed to like it. Going to keep going with baby rice for couple more days and then try pureed apple or pear. Got some squash in the freezer too but will try that next week!

Lentil soup - very good for you and will cancel out all biscuits eaten over the weekend

Oh, meant mashed pear not masshed pear... and ssmile hoping you meant swede and not suede?? Thought suede might be a bit tough without any teeth

Thanks for your positive comments guys. I think that it's always annoying when you try to complain about something, particularly to hvs, as sometimes you just want to get it off your chest but instead you just get a whole load of 'helpful advice'. But I guess that's what they're there for.

And this thread is here for the rants I promise you I'm much more bubbly in rl!

Having moaned about my NCT group, someone this morning piped up about how she was getting woken up once a night and instantly another mum admitted that her lo was waking 4/5 times a night, so that made me feel - misery loves company!

Also one of our group has had a really tough time with her lo, medical problem, which means I feel I can't complain in front of her as my problems are trivial compared to hers. But sometimes you just need to vent!

Guess my diet restarts tom now, DH came home at 5pm :) (rare occurrence) took us all out to pub as treat tonight both girls were very good, and I very much enjoyed steak and chips but why oh why did I have to follow it with the very yummie chocolate fudge cake! So much for lentil soup at lunch time. Back to Shred dvd tom and long way round walk back from school the rest of the week, my goal of getting into size14 jeans comfortably by my birthday is slipping away opps.

at suede can't even blame predictive text for that one..gosh my brain is utterly fried at the moment from months of sleep deprivation.

Thanks lovely ladies. Last night was horrendous - lo up every 40-60 mins through the night so today the baby rice came out of the cupboard along with the annabel Carmel book (she is the weaning goddess and she makes it clear that after 17 weeks some babies need food and that you know best - hooray for sanity). Lo not impressed with the rice but hey ho, it's that or I may just lose the will to live. Tomorrow I think I will start some purees off. My neck better but still very sore and can't turn my head so not great.
On the subject of mums whose babies sleep through - I think we all have struggles at different stages and it's not a sign of doing anything wrong if you don't hit the same milestones. Having two much older dcs I have come to realise that from the second kids are born many people see them as a status symbol and use their kids achievements to make themselves feel valued - we all need recognition of our self worth at times but some mums take it a bit too far. It doesn't stop there - next it will be how quickly they potty train, self feed, read, wipe their bum and what scores that get for there sats - let the petty be smug, rise high and sail above them. My poor sleepers are great at parties - I have happy kids when everyone else's kids have gone into overtired meltdown - there is always a silver lining !

Ssmile - glad you had the choccy cake - you deserved it - I grant you a guilt free pat on the back with my magic wand.

Hear hear Minky, well said.

And fair play on the cake Ssmile, there's no point in celebrating a rare evening together as a family unless you can do it without calorie counting imo. You can make up for it tomorrow.

PMSL at feeding the babies suede

DD spent the day with her daddy today while I went and earnt proper money at school. She had loads of EBM out of her sippy cup which is a relief. I can't get over how grown up she's getting . She's managing to do little bunny hops forward when she's on her hands and knees now, dunno how long it'll be before she figures out how to coordinate her hips and limbs and still no proper sign of teeth yet although dribbling and chewing everything in sight.

Had another breakdown last night, actually had to leave the house at 4am to try and calm down. Can't do much longer without a full night's sleep! Have asked hubby to look for some baby rice today, no idea on how to make it or how much to give but I am at the end of my tether.

He's only 22 weeks and lots of people have told me that the traditional signs of weaning don't actually mean they're ready for solids, but surely waking every hour overnight from 12 till 6 is too much?!

Am very very at the moment. So glad I can vent on here to you guys, just holding onto my sanity by a thread

Hi all,

Queen I can totally empathise, I don't often post but I always read the thread and I'm in exactly the same boat as you. My lo has decided she just doesn't want to sleep anymore for any length of time, I feel like I have been awake for the whole night! The only time she is going to sleep now is when I feed her as she is getting so tired, so she's not taking a whole feed and just feeding to sleep!

I really don't know how or why things have changed and I'm guessing at teething or needing to start baby rice but just feel like I'm clutching at straws. It's so hard to know and I feel really frustrated that she keeps feeding to get to sleep as she never used to need that.

Anyway, even tho I don't post often I do appreciate knowing that all you ladies are experiencing similar things. Sleep deprivation makes everything so hard but I do take comfort from how you guys deal with it so well xx

Agree with so much minky

Hugs to geekmum and Sarah. I also had a bad night and couldnt even sleep when LO was... Think it's just as I'm on my own so conscious I need to be alert so stopped me from sleeping.

I wonder if this 6 months weaning is right... Sounds to me that a lot if babies need to start after 4 months.

Geekmum - you make baby rice with baby milk - either formula or breast - 10 spoons milk to one spoon rice so it's a gentle start. I started mine yesterday but reckon it'll take till she's on more food to make a difference as her milk is still so much of her diet. But you have to start small to get anywhere which is why I am starting now at 20 and half weeks. (like hoe ssmile LO is on a lot more food now at 23 weeks)

Thank god we've got this thread... Feel it's so helpful when going through what we are... Hugs to everyone...

Roll on tomorrow night ... OH and step kids home!!

Hello friends!
Golly all these motoring babies! They are all growing up far too fast - where is the pause button?

Well no moving about here yet - DS still mor than happy waving from flat on back position :) Not started weaning yet either but he is a few weeks younger than most I think. We do however have a hint of tooth! Bottom middle, just an edge but through the skin. This arrived yesterday and appeared to require constant cuddles (mummy only thank you) - he was really clingy. I took him on the pram for a walk and half way round had to take him out and carry him whilst pushing empty pram! Anyway, it is all v exciting. I expect he could manage a piece of suede now ;o)

So sorry to hear that the sleep deprivation continues - no wonder it was used as torture. Really hope it improves v soon...

Better go as nap time - but meant to ask if anyone else's hair is coming out as fast as mine?? I clogged up the Hoover at the weekend!