September 2011 babies are rolling into 2012

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Hello in new thread come over and chat part two from the September edd babies arriving thread.
Just watched strictly dancing final part one but can't keep eyes open for part two so off to bed now will watch.it tom. Sleep well.....zzzzz

Hi all

DS sleeping so hopefully will get a chance to catch up - but might leave mid post if he wakes!

Summer I read your thread - I think a lot of people misunderstood what you had said and then subsequently ignored any clarification you supplied, and others jumped on the bandwagon without reading everything. Fwiw phoning local police about truancy is great, as a teacher it really helps if truants are reported. Were you aware of any signage at the soft play area about supervision? As some places say you should have parental supervision at all times in order to sidestep responsibility for incidents like you have had.

Some people hide behind the anonymity on this site to be more forthright with their opinions, when in real life they would have asked more probing questions to make sure they understood properly. I'm glad that this thread is full of lovely people!

Also with return to work, I think it's a months notice officially whenever you decide to go back, but obviously for convenience schools would probably want to know by Easter holidays for going back after May half term. When I got my papers about maternity leave it had the date of return on there already, I only have to notify them if I decide to go back sooner.

Glad to not have to deal with the sibling rivalry! Feral I watch supernanny and she always deals with these issues so easily, I do think it's easier for an outsider to come in and 'fix it' as the kids behave differently to other people, just as your DS acts with his grandparents. Must be hard to be dealing with a baby and an older kid.

My LO chose to roll over from back to front today, unfortunately he was on the footstool so rolled off the side! Fortunately I was on that side anyway so he just kinda rolled into my hands

Had a nice time today at a local cake shop and then surestart centre, and walked a full hour in total so don't feel too guilty about the two cupcakes I ate!

Wow missed lots... and haven't got long as LO is starting to fuss and needs cuddles!!

Haven't tried teething gel or powder but did get some gel on the weekend in preparation ... think she'll need it soon.

Ooh, sibling rivalry... don't envy you there. Lucky here in that LO's brother and sister are 12 and 10 so not really an issue! Although being quiet after LO is in her crib is a new concept to them and one they're not really picking up!! LO is also getting used to the noise though, so hopefully there'll be a happy medium soon!

Minky - glad you had a good Mr Minky birthday weekend, sounds great. My 40th was spent in Cyprus last year - but as I was around 21 weeks PG at the time, it was a "dry" one... so maybe I'll have a few for my 41st instead!!

Pixie - ooh, sorry about the others on the other threads. At least it's lovely and friendly here... so grateful for that.

Well, LO is getting better at napping in the day - but still averaging about half hour for her naps. (Has the occasional one for about an hour). Her sleeping is getting better at night - she's waking up earlier for a feed - about 11.30 now, and going till 8am till her next feed - but doesn't sleep right through. She fusses around 4.30ish, and then regularly after that! But on the whole, is getting better - and after a baby massage class last week she slept really well... so much try it again to see if that was the magic touch, or if she was just having a flukey good night.

She's now in her 3-6 month sleepsuits and vests... the others were just pulled far too tight!! They're a little big on the feet, but after a few washes I think they'll be fine! She's in a mix of 0-3 and 3-6 clothes otherwise.

Got a kind of jumperoo on the weekend - the tips of her toes just touch the floor but she still bounces a bit in it. It is a little big for her at the mo, but she seems to enjoy it ... for the 5 minutes she'll endure and then wants out!! But great start and nice that she has something she can play in an upright position. Wanted to get door bouncers but we have small doorways with no frames to grip them round so no good :(

Right, she really is fussing now, so best go.... hoping to have a quiet day at home tomorrow so can catch up properly

OMG, I haven't been here in about a week

Feral, sorry you are having sibling trouble with your LO, can't quite get over the "I'm going to hurt DD" comment!

I'm not weaning till 6 months, LO shows no interest in wanting anything other than my milk and even then she's not always that interested! But then she likes doing her thing now and if she's not fully hungry she won't bother, or she'll start and then fuss and play around and occasionally clamp down on me!

Jojo, I hope things work out OK for you.

Glad I'm not the only one who isn't interested in filling all the small gaps in silence when getting their hair done. I like a good natter most of the time, but I don't always like the 'have to talk' feeling I get sometimes with a hairdresser.

My LO is mad on her feet now, as soon as it's nappy change time she's playing with her feet, she had 4 toes in her mouth yesterday, makes for an interesting position and nappy change I tell you.

Well done to the Shredders and the runners amongst us, I've done very little, and I really ought to.

I hope those who still have the third set of jabs are OK with them.

Summerpixie, I'm glad you find this thread a comfort away from the b*ches on another thread. :(

Nice that we are having a few new rolling babies in the mix :) Shame you missed the first one ssmile.

Well I can't leave LO anywhere now, she's off, she's able to roll over and over and over again, and is off the mat we have, and she's also doing the same as Feral's LO by sticking her bum in the air, I reckon she's one step away from crawling, she's launching herself forward when on her tummy, by bringing her feet up and pushing off with them. She ended up on the laminate earlier on and it was quite funny just watching her move around on it. It's very lovely, but it's also bringing with it a new set of challenges in watching her. We also need to sort out the bottom shelf of the book cases as there are a few items on there that aren't books and so I need to ensure it's baby safe. Think we will do that in the next couple of weeks.

Have managed to get a date for LO's baptism :) Which will be good, got a first birthday party to go to and a christening before LO baptism, but it's nice to have things planned in the in between times.

I'm having odd nights, where sometimes we are getting a lot(it's all relative) of sleep and then other nights she's waking every couple of hours, then settling for a few hours. I'd quite like to go back to having a stint of 5 hours, then another stint of a couple of hours. Not slept for longer than a 3 hour stretch for a long while! And then when we went out for a curry last night the lad that was in charge (I say lad, he isn't very old) was going on about the fact that his 8 week old has a 7oz bottle and then sleeps through, he asked how often LO was waking I ummed and gave the best of recent times (I said 3) and he said "Oh dear, that's bad" or something like that. NICE, thanks!!!! I should really go to bed earlier, like when she goes down initially so I could get a stint of a few hours, I just can't bring myself to go to bed so early, but it might help! I don't feel like I'm doing too badly on it though. Not like the first few weeks of lots of long wakings, at least they are shorter now, or at least easier to settle and can put LO down part asleep, whereas I couldn't in the first few months.

SOOOOOOO I went shopping last week, part of it was my birthday present from my mum, she came with me and watch LO while I was trying clothes on, she also gave me some money, PIL gave me money at Christmas, and GP gave me money on my birthday. I ended up spending £350 on new clothes!!! £350 O M G but got a LOT of stuff, and have now bagged up all my maternity clothes (except I found a pair of trousers that were in a washing pile, so they will have to go in the next bagging up) and a load of clothes from before pregnancy that I wore throughout my pregnancy and were too big for me now. It's nice to have clothes that fit again :) I've kept them in case I get pg again before I lose too much weight as they will do me a pregnancy again. And it's nice to not be wearing 'fat clothes' I'm still big, but at least my clothes aren't all baggy and rubbish on me now :)

Anyway I'm going to go now.

Sorry for poor reply but on phone and not a brain cell left in sight in my head ! Sorry to hear your having such challenging times feral, don't envy you on sibling issues but keep positive and your eldest will give up trying to annoy when he realises it's not working - distraction is the name of the game and rewarding his good behaviour (even if it's only short term to begin with). I had to do alot of similar rewarding with ds1 with his speech problems and I was amazed at how quickly it worked when I really put my mind to it (easier said than done though when you are tired and fed up). Hope it gets better soon.
Thanks for everyone's concern over my mastitis. I have finally fully cleared my blocked milk duct (took 5 days for the milk spot to unplug) pain all gone now and feeding fine again (phew) and managed to do it without antibiotics - just expressing, feeding and massage and hot showers and baths. Thanks for all the support, I felt very lifted by you all
Lo very unlike himself for last 36 hours - very upset, unsettled and crying alot. Very little sleep last night. Today he seems to be coughing and I think he has a sore throat at times. Also dribbling and chewing like mad and has alot of wind too so whatever is happening it's causing him pain - hope I get more sleep tonight as I am shattered.
On the teething front, I used calgel with other dcs. I am going to buy a sophie the giraffe getting toy from mothercare - went today but sold out - very pricy but worth it and very popular. It's a bit like a rubber chicken but in giraffe form for those of you that dong know what I an talking about, been out for years in France and very popular.
Right, lo just fallen asleep so going to grab my chance while I can ! Night all.

100 and Minky hope you both get better night's sleep tonight. My lo has just done 3 nights on the trot with only one wakeup so I'm hoping that's the end of the sleep regression bit... Guess the teething's next! Will be on the lookout for those giraffes - what's so great about them?

I can feel myself coming down with a cold

Going to go through some potential houses now to sort out some viewings!

100 wow gd on you buying some clothes hope it boosted morale. Interesting what you said on sleep. My Lo vsimilar the long stretch I was getting (5hrs at start of night) has regressed a lot. Last night was shit with 5 wake ups (every 2hrs) &feeds in 11hrs :( grrr Bloomin hope weaning helps this! She 22wks on Fri and I'm hoping to hang on till 24wks.....
minkyj glad ur boob feeling better hope Lo not getting a cold.
feralgirl oh dear with sibling rivalry at least my DD1 not hitting just flipping annoying at times but last night she was vgd as DH wasn't home she did all her school work no fuss and got herself out of bath, used toilet, and put her PJs on by herself whilst I put babe to bed. She got a long bedtime story as a reward :) I also made big fuss of her this morn as she "looked" after babe who was rolling all over the lounge floor whilst I brushed my teeth.

My exercising going well I'm really finding the Shred Dvd is making me feel stronger done Level1 7times now and it is getting easier! Plus being fitter is definitely helping with the lack of sleep at the moment. Gotta go Lo is grissling she not been herself today.

I was wondering where you'd gone 100. Quite a bit jealous on your clothes shopping trip. I find when I go out I just get fed up with looking especially as shops, even mothercare, do not design their aisles for pushchairs. I think the past year has been a mix of primarni and online shopping.
I had DD weighed this morning and she has only gained 120g in 3 weeks. I was going to ask about weaning but the woman (who I thought was a hv) was a bit mardy when I said I think Dd is teething as she had been sucking/biting hands, nasty poo and rash, red hot rosy cheeks, less sleep more and feeding is sporadic. Her reply was: she's probably not teething and has just discovered her hands . I just checked the red book and she has signed it with CNN next to her name so I'm guessing this is Something nursery nurse? She told me DD weight gain was fine I didn't think so myself 120g in 3 weeks and has fallen off the 50th without sickness? I really don't find the baby clinics here v helpful and I think there are only a handful of HV therefore most parents end up being seen by the NN. Totally do not blame the HV, though just lack of resources and suitably qualified HV in our PCT most probably. I noticed the lady next to me had a DD who was developmentally the same sort of age as DD so I asked her how old she was. 21 weeks exactly! Same as my DD,born on the same day at the same hospital except her DD is older than mine by about 3.5hours!
I'm v tempted to give a bit of rice or fruit to DD.

Lots of catching up to do but just popping in to say I'm very impressed by all the exercise that seems to be going on! I don't know where you find the time! I'm relying on breastfeeding to keep the pounds off do now but I'm sure I'll have a big shock when I stop and can no longer eat endless biscuits!

Lo seems to be finding her voice a bit more now, sounds a bit like a dinosaur but it is lovely hearing her experimenting with new sounds. She's enjoying the door bouncer too, her legs are still too short for the jumperoo but the door bouncer at last gives me a chance to get some stuff done!

Anyway, she's just waking up now and is due for a feed. Hope you're all having lovely days despite the dismal weather!

Minky, glad your mastitis etc has cleared up now. Hope LO is OK. I've heard about those giraffe things, I haven't thought of getting one yet, but had a quick search for you, there are some on Amazon and some on Kiddicare, although the amazon ones have a few poor ratings, so not sure it's an original.

Thanks Geekmum, unfortunately last night was a night of frequent wakenings. She went down at 8:30 ish, woke at 11, 12, 1, 3, 5 and 7! I was bog eyed this morning. Never mind. I told OH I would be going to bed at the same time as her tonight, whether I do or not is another matter. Hope your cold comes to nothing and the house viewings are successful.

ssmile, thanks, it was nice. I have clothes ranging in sizes now, from a couple of 14 tops(!) to a size 20 fleecy jacket, the 18 was a big snug for a jacket, but good in a 20. Majority of them are 18s, hoping I can get to a 16 before I get pg again, but that means working at it. In fact I'd like to be a 14 really, but I'd just be happy with dropping a size for now. Interesting what you say about exercising helping with the lack of sleep, I do feel better when I've been doing stuff exercise wise, it's just that initial get up and do it that I struggle with at times.

pixie, yeah, I was just busy, then there were so many posts to catch up on I left it till I could catch up! I too get fed up shopping, I am a bit of an awkward shape, and usually when I have money to spend shopping I don't manage to get stuff, but I was successful last week :) I think CNN is Community Nursery Nurse. Sorry they weren't more helpful.

Sarah, I was only saying this yesterday about eating, at the moment I'm staying around the same weight, within half a stone all the time, which for me isn't really noticeable, as I am carrying a lot more, for someone of 10stone a half stone difference probably would be noticed, anyway I digress, I was saying yesterday, my weight is fairly stable, but when I stop BF I will have to look at what I am eating and drinking (lots of fruit juice) and think about cutting down on stuff as I'm sure when I stop BF I could possibly gain a bit of weight carrying on. I love the noises we get too.

Been swimming again this morning, she's properly reaching for the ducks we have in the pool, she has a proper look of concentration on her face which is very cute.

As I said last night was a big old wakey night. I'm hoping things settle down again soon.

Pixie, I honestly wouldn't worry too much about the weight loss; DD has also dropped from 50th down to 25th this month and the HV said it would be because she's getting so much more 'exercise' by wriggling about. I was a bit but we were told it's normal to have a bit of a drop around now which then gets piled back on in a month or two when they start on solids.

On the subject of wriggling, DD had hidden herself in the living room while I was making DS's lunch today. I had a moment of sheer panic before I located her between the chair and sofa, she must have wriggled - backwards - about six or seven feet Guess I'm going to have to re-baby-proof the living room!

Ssmile good on your DD for being such a big girl. Perhaps I could borrow her to show DS how it's done?!

100 for the new clothes, it's so nice to treat yourself. I am going to have to do the same as I am going into school next week to start doing some KIT days and all my old work clothes are well tatty.

V proud of myself for losing 4lbs this week I think I mostly have DD's voracious appetite to thank for it though; I reckon she's getting through way more than her regulation 500 calories!

feral, sounds like our LOs are very similar in movement around the place. She's caterpillaring herself around now! Thanks, it was very nice. Hope your KIT days go well. And well done on the weight loss. :)

Well done everyone on your weight losses. I weighed myself last Thursday morning so waiting until then to weigh again.

And, very impressed with everyone's LOs with the rolling / wriggling to move around. My LO does love to move from her back to her side and manages to turn her self around a bit that way, but that's about it! She shows no interest in wanting to go from her side on to her front - I suppose I'd better do more "tummy time" with her but she hates it! Think she'll be a bottom shuffler!! (Apparently I was, never crawled just bounced on my bum! But I was a clicky hip girl and had 2 nappies so extra cushioning around the bum!)

100 - also jealous of your shopping spree. I'm deliberately not buying any clothes for myself - on the idea that I want to lose weight and will buy some in smaller sizes!! This may not work, but I really don't want to buy clothes at this size. However, it doesn't do much for self esteem as have bugger all to wear and seem to be in the same clothes all the time!!

And don't worry about what the curry man said - I expect his son will stop sleeping through when he also hits the 4 month stage. It's a fallacy that bottle fed babies sleep right through - mine certainly doesn't!!

But, have a goal to head for... wedding! Have started to make a bit of headroom - we've found the venue (it'll only be a small wedding of around 30 of us - civil ceremony and a meal only). But they are currently in the process of getting a wedding licence (mid Feb hopefully) and we can't book the registrar until then... so do we wait and hope to get the dates we want in June or book a registry office wedding and just hold the drinks and meal at the venue. I think I want to wait as the place is lovely and nicer than the registry office. Registrar did say there was room in June so waiting 3 weeks shouldn't be too bad... fingers crossed!!

OH and I are very laid back about it all... it's my friends pressing for a date!! (They're all far too organised, unlike me!)

Right, best go, LO started to cry for food... !

Having nice day so far, playgroup followed by lunch with mums there as we have just got to the point of knowing eachother well enough to swap numbers etc, did a kiddicare shop which turned up today and DS loves his walker, can't quite make it walk but he loves being upright and the toys stuck on it are great as he can't keep dropping them. Also got stair gatees as have lots of friends with toddlers that visit and a fold up booster seat that he sat really well in at lunch (4months old). He is now having good sleep as was really restless all night and wouldn't really settle - don't know why? Well done those loosing weight, really helps making myself go out with pram each day and the hours of pacing with crying baby seems to have helped. Don't think we are far of crawling here either though he seems to have given up on rolling - has not done it for a few weeks now.
Hope the sun comes out soon am bored of rain and pond is in danger of flooding, don't want to have to search the lawn for stray fish
Good luck with jabs and hope those of you feeling poorly shake it off quickly - did anyone esle not really get colds whilst pregnant?

BTW... did you all see the news this morning? On Vitamin D and how pregnant women, breastfeeding women and children under 5 should all be having Vitamin D supplements. It suggested only 51% of health care professionals know about this and much less parents. I certainly didn't know and never took Vit. D supplements whilst pregnant. It did say that babies on formula feed actually get extra vit D as it's supplemented (the one time it's good to bottle feed?) but babies over 6 months to 5 years should have supplements of 400 units - Rickets is on the up apparently. And, some multi vitamin supplements only have 200 units of Vit D so not enough either.

So, as soon as I start weaning, I'm going to start LO on Vit. D supps...

Apparently the Chief Medical Officer is going to contact all GPs, Nurses and Midwives to educate and make sure this message is passed on...

Glad my lo hasn't really worked out how to move around yet - less chance of me losing him!

Saw that thing about vit d. It's worth also knowing that your skin makes it when exposed to sunlight (a human form of photochemosynthesis) and can do so even with sun lotion on. I think rickets is on the rise because of parents (rightly) covering up los in the sunshine!

Just had a nice lunch out for a friend's 30th, I didn't know she was 30 as I thought she was younger than me so didn't get her much of a gift . To be fair it wasn't like a big party and she only invited us last week, so I didn't think it was a big deal.

Hope you all get good nights tonight (esp 100 - what a nightmare)

Off to look at kiddicare now...

Writing from bed post-bath with camomile tea - I feel old but happy!

Sebs our DS isn't rolling yet either - though like your Dd can go onto side. Also dislikes being on tum - I am expecting a stationary boy till he gets on his feet! At least we can leave them on a rug whilst we pop to the loo! For now...

Vit D I tend to keep hood down on pram whilst doing daily walk - nice for him to look out but also in hope of beneficial daylight. Once again I find myself wishing for spring...

First swim tomorrow - am rather excited! Last time I went was 34 weeks preg and getting out was a shock after the weightlessness of the water!

Happy sleeps all - DS went through till 6.30 yesterday so hoping for more zzzzs tonight - he is a pudding which I guess helps the sleep :o)

sebs, I know what you mean about not buying clothes as you want to lose weight, but I figured while I'm at the in between where I am and where I want to be I don't want to be wearing clothes that are too big and therefore look awful on me, and I don't know how long it will take to get to where I want to be, and I was bored with all of the other clothes. Plus I had money to spend on clothes, so figured might as well do it now. In reality I think it will be a while before I drop a size, and I didn't want to be wearing the big clothes all that time. Yeah, I remembered someone else said about the teething phase, I'm just hoping mine settles down before that starts so at least I have some proper sleep, but if not, I'm at the kind of used to it stage now, and not feeling too bad day to day, it just hits some times. Great stuff about the wedding :) Woohoo, so how will you manage to whittle down your close friends and family with all us lot coming (I am joking) Around here they give us free vitamins and vitamin drops because it's deemed as a high risk area for poor Vit. D and the risks with it, so I will be given them soon, I've already got my vitamins they give out, usually it's low paid families, but around here the surestart lady said they give them to everyone who wants them.

candr, great about DS liking the walker :) kiddicare is a great place. I didn't get a cold when I was pg, I managed to stay away from them for just over 12 months and got one just before I got pg and then a few weeks ago, not bad going really. But then I was poorly with HG, so maybe my body just said that was enough for me to contend with.

Geekmum, last night was marginally better, 11, 2, 4, 6 (which lasted till 6:45) Don't worry about your friend, it sounds like she didn't want to make a big fuss of it being her 30th, some people don't and if she had have done you would have known it was her 30th birthday you were going out for I reckon.

Hope you have fun swimming today TP :) He's a lovely pudding though :)

Got a day at home today without OH working from home, so I'm not dressed yet :) LO has just gone down for her first nap of the day, they don't last that long, so I'm taking advantage of it. Got a new recipe to try for tea, baked chicken curry, I really need to check through the recipe to see what I need to do in case it's something that will take all afternoon, not something I want to happen, but I think it's not that much to do.

Ooh - so so sp tired. Lo was up every 30 mins to 1 hour last night wanting fed. Not sure if he is unwell, teething or just on growth spurt. dh is working round the clock so has been no help in lady fee evenings - all added to by fact he will be away for his weeks snowboarding in a week and a half. If he dares to suggest going out this week I am liable to start ww3 as I have had hardly any sleep in 4 days. Lo is 19 weeks today - I think some others on here mentioned a big feeding spurt at this stage so here is me hoping

Oh Minky, much as my LO isn't awake that much I do have an idea of how you are feeling. I hope your DH doesn't suggest it, or soon realises the 'error of his ways' without WW3 starting

minkyj oh big hugs that's shit sleep. Hope your DH can help out abit even if its take Lo out in buggy for an hour so you can get a nap. My DH had to regulary take DD1 out in the eve he would put her in the baby carrier walk the streets and have a swift pint in local standin in pub garden just so I could get 1-2hrs sleep before the night shift started as she was an equally poor sleeper. This Lo has been having some rough nights the last 3wks but last night was a "good" night up 11pm, 1am, 4-5, up at 7am. I just really hoping once we start weaning it will get better!

Minky hope tonight is better, that sounds rubbish last night, it always seems so much worse when you're alone one way or another. Big hugs your way.

Sebs missed the bit about the wedding! How exciting! Do we at least get an invite to the hen party? only kidding!

Can I ask your views on tv watching? Good or bad for little ones?

100 baked chicken curry? I'm doing chicken curry tomorrow, let me know how it goes...

ssmile, sounds like things are similar for us at the moment sleep wise!

Geekmum, TBH I don't put LO in front of the TV, but she likes looking at the TV when we have it on, she seems engrossed in University Challenge at times when we watch it! But I think it's that she likes seeing the shapes moving around and Uni challenge is what we have on! But I've not put her in front of it to amuse her, maybe half an hour/maybe more would be OK, but it's not something I want to get into doing yet. I have a friend and when her LOs were very small all they did to have entertainment was be put in front of the TV. I like chattering away and playing. She often peers up at the TV from the mat while she is playing if I'm watching something and she's rolling around, but for me I don't want to start using it as a form of entertainment - yet - this may change in time.

And the baked chicken curry - very very very very very yummy. Big thumbs up. I love cooking, it took a little while with the prep etc, but wasn't a 'difficult' meal to make.

Geekmum a quick Internet search and this is the curry recipe I made. The reviews on the page are saying they are going to add another chilli, but neither me or my OH suggested it for mine, even though it's 'mild' it's got heaps and heaps of favour that you don't need loads of spice in it. And my OH likes his curries v hot.

Thanks guys - you are wonderful x just very quick post to say how wonderful Sophie the giraffe is - lo loves her and chewing her like mad ! Friends all agree their Los loved Sophie too - expensive at £12 but worth it. Started lo on comfort milk tonight alongside bf - much as I love the closeness and easy of feeding him myself I am just spent ! Let's hope for sleep tonight as I am exhausted.
Very excited about our mnet thread wedding - out soon to buy my virtual hat . Night night lovelies