September 2011 babies are rolling into 2012

[ssmileWithFairylights]

Hello in new thread come over and chat part two from the September edd babies arriving thread.
Just watched strictly dancing final part one but can't keep eyes open for part two so off to bed now will watch.it tom. Sleep well.....zzzzz

I don't want to wean before 6mths but after two weeks of at times relentless feeding (hourly in daytime, and two hourly for most of night) my Lo "growth spurt" feels like its endless at times, the other growth spurts have lasted 2-3days. My friends Lo is doing the same she was off to HV to ask their advice. I'm seeing her tom so be gd to see what they say. If my DH gets home by 6pm he was going to try with a bottle. I tried last night but she just chewed the teat and dribbled the milk out.
On the fitness front I've done the shred level 1 5times now, its best dvd I've ever done for results in 20mins really makes you work hard if you get technique right phew! But I've nearly lost 7lbs now in 2wks and my jeans are getting looser :) so healthy eating working too and the lack of sugar is helping my energy levels.
Can't wait for my Lo to find her feet she not there, still waiting for her to turn over! I've been putting her on her back more but she really does prefer to sit up and watch the world go by.

minky massage any lumps while feeding (or if u find that hard express some into a cup while u massage-or do it in te shower, u dont even need to keep whats expressed), for me it worked and they went away and were ok within a day or 2 xx

fera i also read somewhere about the study and lo's becoming anaemic. research is being done now tho 2 c wether advice needs changing.

jojo weaned our eldest 2 at 16weeks, theres a lot of pressure around now tho (i feel anyway) not to wean until 6 months.

weaning i have finally decided, as our eldest are ok, that i shall ignore all the 6month pressures and try lo on baby rice 2moro lunchtime- he'll b almost 19weeks old. as we're on the EAT study he cant have any of the allergenic foods (eg milk, fish, wheat) until at least 6months old, then just introduced one at a time (didnt know that bit with our eldest 2!)

ssmile well done you!!!!!!! big clap and hug!!! and our lo hardley has any time lay down either, tho im trying tummy time for a few mins everyday now hoping he'll roll over soon but we'll c. he doesnt seem interested in going side to side, more just wanting to go forward (or araound in circles)

Will give all the advice a go. Managed to clear it on Monday but it's cone back again. Just been on Facebook and am now in panic mode as the little boy who was all over lo earlier today has now got the vomiting bug ! That would be awful at any time but it's dhs 40th on Sunday and we are meant to be going out with friends for dinner on Saturday night. I so hate this time of year !

Morning all. Sorry to hear of mastitis issues minky - I sympathise as had it twice in one boob and what felt like constantly blocked ducts. Massage helps but is like pressing a bruise :(

DS made it past 7kg this week (15lb11oz) at almost 17 weeks. Je is a big boy and I too can imagine weaning pre-6months though will take HV advice and watch this board with interest.

DH was unsuccessful at dream feed last night - lo didn't want to know - and he didn't wake till 5.15am. He settled after a b/feed and woke again for morning at 6.30. Not bad at all - I am considering dropping the dream feed altogether as it appears he is big enough to sleep through.

My Mum over today - planning to do some baking and pop out for a hot choc at local cafe. Will be lovely to see her.

Hi all, lots to catch up on!

Jojo hope you get some positive news soon regarding your housing situation.

Minky sorry to hear you're not feeling too good, hope the mastitis clears up soon. Hope your LO doesn't come down with anything.

Well done Ssmile on your weight loss, v impressive!

100 stop being rude and have a chat with your hairdresser! Only kidding. I think my hairdresser is excellent and it's because she senses whether clients want to chat or not. I like a good natter

It's really great to hear all your thoughts on weaning. I seem to be hearing different things from different places so am going for the 'whatever I feel is right' approach, which at the moment is giving LO things to play with. Yesterday he was sucking on a king prawn (so much for allergies!). The only nono I have is bananas, both my DH and mil have mild allergies to them and they were a big trigger for my morning sickness, so will steer clear of them! LO is 19 weeks and I think he's getting really frustrated at not being able to do things.

He had his third jabs on Tuesday, cue lots of crying tues and weds. I always feel I have to try and justify his crying to onlookers, by saying what's up with him - really it's none of their business! But I get annoyed at people saying 'ah, bless him, he's hungry' as though mothers are notorious for starving their babies, when he's just tired and overstimulated. Anyone else get this?

I echo what RunningGeekMum says - JoJo really hope the housing situation sorts itself out soon - can't believe they're not prioritising you with a new baby???

SSmile - wow, great weight loss, am jealous. No idea how I'm doing as too scared to go on the scales!!! Must be brave so I can start monitoring how I'm doing.

Minky - how mastistis sorts itself out soon.

Am sick of this Cerazette mini pill. Had a period in the first month that lasted about 8 days. THen last week bled for about 9 days. Had 4 days no bleeding, and now have started again???? Just done a quick search on google on "Cerazette and bleeding" and there are loads of this - either you stop completely (which my doctor was quick to tell me) or you get long periods - some almost constantly. What's the point of a contraception if you bleed all the time? So, am going to come off it and go back to the docs to see what my other options are. I'd go on the pill, as long as it's safe to do so (as I'm 40). See what they say.

Well, LO is now going from about 11.30 / 12.00 midnight to 8am with no feeds... it's just a pity she doesn't sleep that whole time! She semi wakes up about 4.30ish, fussing and starting to cry... she needs rocking to go back off, then does this pretty much every 45 mins until 7ish when we get up. No idea why - she's not hungry.

And re weaning - I'm hoping to go the full 6 months before weaning BUT I'm not sure LO will last until 6 months. She's started to really stare when we eat, and used to go 4 hours between feeds - now going around 3.5 hours and really wants her next bottle. Just getting hungrier. She's 18 weeks on Friday so not sure she'll go to 6 months!!! But, I'll keep looking for signs. If she does go beforehand, I'll keep it simple due to risk of allergies.

Did anyone know if it's 6 calendar or 6 lunar months?

Got baby massage class this afternoon!

Following on from what Sebs said, what are the contraceptive options post birth whilst bf? I never got this talk from the doc as she was more concerned about pnd. Just starting to consider perhaps letting DH dtd within maybe the next year...! (does the feeling of apprehension go at some point? Will I get over the feeling of violation from the birth and other issues?)

Hope you get a solution Sebs, I don't think I'd want to put up with that much bleeding!

My friend spoke with HVf who said 18-20wk period is tough if BF as its big growth spurt but it should settle down abit. My LO is 21wk Fri and the last two weeks have been really tough endless feeding BUT last night was much better and the last 36hrs have been less intense Feeding so I'm hoping we are coming out the other side as I do want to wait until 24wks before starting solids. The horrid smelly nappies post solid food is gd incentive to wait :o goodbye sweet mustard nappies....

I had mirena coil fitted (am 39) wasn't pleasant having fitted and bled daily for 30days but since then last two months nothing. So think its going ok for me.

Ssmile that's somewhat comforting; lo has been feeding a lot more recently and he's 19 almost 20 weeks now. Although last night he went through the night with only one feed at 3, so improvement there!

Ohhhh I am so very of all these good sleeps. DD is on a big backward slide and is currently waking every 1.5 hours at night. What has happened to my lovely sleepy angel who only woke once a night? Obviously she's got a big ol' spurt going on but it's just ruining me!

Interesting about the 18-20 week thing, DD is (I think) 19 weeks so that would make sense.

100 I am with you on the hairdresser/ conversation thing. One of the reasons that I love my hairdresser so very much is that he would rather die than ask me where I'm going on my holidays. He is a taciturn Glaswegian and a bit of a moody bugger which suits me fine!

Minky how's the mastitis? Must be miserable so I'm hoping you're better soon.

Re contraception, tbh I'm not bothering. I didn't get my periods back until DS was 9mo and really properly weaned so I'm going to just chance it. What's the worst that could could happen after all? I might end up with another scrummy baby and a load more maternity leave

HUGE congrats on the weight loss Ssmile, really really well done

Jojo how's the housing sich going?

Thanks for kind words on my weight, this always happens though I start off and lose 7lbs in two weeks then its like my body goes woooh I'm not doing that and then next few weeks I only lose a 1lb a week, got another 20lbs to lose so in for the long haul. I've found the my fitnessPal app really helpful in tracking calories and exercise. So I think ooh I can have a crunchie bar but need to do a 30min walk to compensate :)

feralgirl I really hope your sleep improves soon that's very hard doing every 1.5hrs. I feel very grateful this babe is far better sleep than DD1 its making big difference to the quality of my life this time around.

I'm not big fan of hair dressers either. I always have dry cut takes 15min max :o and the girl I use is lovely.

My Lo finally rolled over today from back to tum, and we all missed the first time! I'd laid her on bathroom floor on towel whilst getting her ready for bath took her nappy to bin was 20secs came back in and she was on her tummy looking confused :) she had been rolling onto her side all week so I knew she do it this weekend.

Hope you all have gd wends.

Thanks for all your well wishes lovely peops - still not fantastic but hanging on in there. Lo woke for feed every 1.5 hours or more last night and is very fussy. As it's been like this for weeks I buckled and gave a tiny bit of baby rice tonight - I know they say not to but the research showed that from 17 weeks the kidneys can function fully. Spoke to alot of other mums and reminded myself that dd1 and dd2 were weaned alot earlier - also read something talking about how they always put a longer time frame on things as some mums will always bring the timescale forward so if they say 26 weeks, people will usually not wait that long . Anyway, lo wasn't too impressed on the baby rice front - alot of gagging and looks of disgust - will see over next days whether it helps. I am so tired that something has to work !
Dh and I are out tomorrow night for the first time without lo. It's dhs 40th on Sunday so out for a meal with friends sat night. I am letting dh go snowboarding for a week with friends in early feb and have planned all his favourite foods for Sunday - Scottish fried breakfast Sunday am (easier said than done finding lorne sausage and decent black pudding in the south! ) then cake mid afternoon and then fillet steak, dauphinois potatoes, spinach and bernais sauce followed by apple tartlets and then a cheese board - washed down with some very fine wine and champagne and probably indigestion and a hangover !
Lo not settling so must dash - hope you all have good weekends

Hi lovely ladies
Thank you all for your kind words of support, wont find out much more about my housing situation until I go back for the meeting on the 15th absolutly worried sick but getting by.

Minky hope you LO starts to sleep better and your DH has a lovely birthday

I hate having my hair done but have a lovely hair dresser who thankfully dont talk that much and I can sit and relax (normally try not to fall asleep!)

Still waiting for my LO to roll over but he is getting better at sitting up on his own and if i remeber correctly he iso ne of the youngest out of our lot so enjoy reading what your LO are doing so I know what is coming up for my LO if that makes any sense!

Feral hope you got more sleep last night

re contraception im currently on the depro injection which is working ok so far was going to have the implant but the doctor advised me that my body didnt agree with the pill which it is like so went for the injection instead. Has one long period of 8 days of bleeding last month but nothing since fingers crossed it stays this way.

Hi all, thanks for the sympathy! DD was back to two wakings last night which was a massive relief (although one was for ages and involved two nappy changes, grr).

I did a bit about the baby rice Minky, I remember giving it to DS when he was about 5mo out of desperation and it was a nightmare. He refused to eat it and it got absolutely everywhere and dried like cement in his hair and in the long pile rug which I eventually had to throw away as a result! I had to put his bumbo through the dishwasher in order to get the damn stuff off that as well.

Your DH's birthday sounds brilliant, he's a very lucky man; I am v and I hope that my DH goes to that much trouble for me when it's my 40th!

Can I come for dinner too minky?? DS and I will sit quietly in the corner and not disturb your romantic dinner - as long as you share it with us! :o

Propped up DS for tummy time today - using a nursing pillow - which was far more preferable to him than flat on a blanket. He raised his head up really well and even gave me a smile. Got tired quite quickly but I am pleased to get a tummy-time breakthrough as previously it was Not Popular.

Lovely to read all the updates - it sounds like we will all be happy to reach the weaning stage and enjoy a little more sleep. DS has started waking hungry earlier than usual - at 4-5 rather than 6-7 (I realise this is great, but still a regression for us) and he is feeding far more enthusiastically than ever. His head is not yet completely steady all the time and he is just 16 weeks so not ready for weaning yet - but I still managed to enjoy spending some money on Amazon getting some trays and containers for his food (and a bib with a scoop to collect food).

Hope everyone has extra special long sleeps tonight - but feral especially :)

Ooh minkyj its my 40th next year can you do my birthday tea too sounds lovely. I too said I would love to go snowboarding again as not been since got pregnant with DD1 six years ago :( but said I'd prob have to settle for weekend at snowdome in Birmingham as don't think we can afford a trip for us all or to be honest that practical with two small kids. Even though I love watching the tiny kids whizzing down slopes on skis with their parents.

My DH had babe this morn for two hours whilst took DD1 to a play session, then again this arvo for an hour whilst I took her swimming. She been finding it hard I think adjustin to sharing mummy as she is constantly on LOOK AT ME behaviour and its driving me and my DH mental. She SO exhausting so I had hoped a few hrs alone with mummy would help but she was still a handful this afternoon. Anyone else struggling with sibling rivalry behaviour? She always been lively and bright but its just SO tiring when you're had yet another poor nights sleep. Babe was mostly awake 12-3 last night then unsettled after 6am, so I only slept 9-12 and 3-6. Fingers crossed for better tonight as off to theme park place tom!

Thanks guys amazing night out at very special restaurant with friends and family, lots of food, wine and giggles. Back home for karaoke on the ps3 and eventually got to bed at 2.30 - lo stayed up to party too! Feeling a bit fragile today but dh very happy with life so it's been worth all the effort. LO was really happy all evening so grandma happy to babysit again soon as he smiled all night at her and was very happy.

Happy birthday mr minky. Glad you had a good night minky. Hope your mastitis has cleared up now. We have sing star on pa3 but my friends are always embarrassed about doing it my work colleagues love a bit of karaoke though.
I am admiring your weightloss and stamina ssmile and geekmum! I wish I was as motivated as you both.

I thought breast feeding and lack of sleep contributed to losing pregnancy weight! How wrong was I!(although cadburys might have a role in inability to lose some of it ).
I've worked out that I have passed the half way mark of my maternity leave and the thought of returning to work makes me nauseous. However, I'll most prob enjoy going back and having some sort of routine. Geekmum do you know when the last day is for giving notice to return to work for may half term? I was also thinking back on all those on the antenatal threads and wondering how they're all doing.

On a side note, yesterday I found out what a bunch of b**ches some of the mumsnet posters are. No-one on this thread btw. I think I'll stick to this thread only from now on. You're all lovely (weepy eye emoticon).

Oh, dd has finally started to roll! It's funny watching her lift her legs and swing them over to push herself round. She's also very vocal but still to master how to bounce on the jumperoo!

Hope you're all well and the feeding frenzies have slowed down.

TP well done on tummy time, am lucky as DS really likes being on tummy or back so has developed good muscles and is starting to sit up now with a fair bit of toppling forwards.
Ssmile, well done you it is exhausting with just one baby, when I was a nanny I had 3 kids to look after (4y,2y,3m) and found having them nights as well really takes it out of you. Hope you get some sleep tonight.
MinkyJ, glad you had a good night, is handy having a grandparent to babysit though DS had bad colic last time MIL had him and spent most of time screaming. Must make sure she has a nicer time next time.
Summerpixie, what happened on other thread? hope you were not too upset. It is nice feeling that you have a safe thread with friends on to go to. My DS is getting more vocal too but mainly in the evening. I have all my photos as screen saver on lap top and he shouts at it when I am typing as he wants to see the pictures which is cute (if a bit annoying for me)we will be borrowing a jumparoo as he loves door bouncer but I have to sit there the whole time incase he bangs head on door frame.
He is still feeding a lot though but doesn't seem to be sleeping longer though putting him in crib is much easier with no tears most nights now.
Hopw you all had a good weekend and Jojo am keping fingers crossed you get good news.

Summerpixie - hope you are okay, sounds like someone has really upset you - ignore them, you know it's not you but their issues. Sending you a virtual hug. Night night everyone - hope you all get sone lovely refreshing zzzzzzzs

Thanks minky & candr. Tbh I'm not upset by their comments. Just surprised that some b**ches find the need to post offensive unhelpful comments just because they feel the need to make themselves feel better. I thought mumsnet was about helping each other. It's all a virtual world and I don't know nor ever want to know any of them IRL anyway.
DD is currently refusing to sleep but is constantly rubbing her nose and chewing her finger through teething irritation. I was wondering if anybody used teething powders or calgel for their LO as powders didn't work for DS.
Ssmile how was Sunday with your DD1? Is she more about wanting your undivided attention than jealous of her little sis?

Just a quick post as on phone

Summer I've been using calgel for LO teeth as I worked in a nursery for 12 years before having LO I found that powders never really worked but each to there own.
Don't worry about the b*tches they ain't worth it

Hope your ok summerpixie sometimes it can be pretty brutal on here and not very supportive but I'd like to think that's the minority who have nothing better to do :)

My DD1 yes wants to be centre of attention a lot! But then again she had me to herself for 4.5yrs so partly to be expected. It's just hard when your all tired and she parrots everything I say to baby and more so, when prebaby she would happily play by herself for part of the day doing wonderful games pretending and is very capable of dressing herself etc but If I'm feeding or changing babe suddenly she needs lots of help I'm sure with time it will balance out....I hope!

Fell of diet wagon abit yester so this morn have walked school 30mins, babe fell asleep on way back so got 20mins on bike and 10mins weights n abs done :o vpleased with myself just got to not eat too much and will have cancelled out the cakes from yester! Was at local theme park and it was cold that was my excuse for big chocolate brownie &crunchie bar.

Yes Ssmile to sib rivalry. DS is being a little toad atm. He's fine when it's just me or DH 1:1 with him but as soon as DD is around he's a heller, for example this exchange yesterday:

DS: "Mummy, I'm going to hurt DD."
Me: "Oh no you're not!"
DS: "Yes I am," and then he headbutted her

We are at our wit's end with him tbh. I know he's just being 3 and testing the boundaries but it's very hard dealing with him atm as he's trying quite hard to play DH and I off against each other. It's especially difficult since whenever my mum and dad have him he is angelic!

Re teething, DS really liked the powders but I think that might have just been because they taste nice!

Oh, DD has started lifting her hips up as well which is v exciting. She's sleeping with her legs tucked under her and her bum sticking up which is too cute for words and I found her the other day with her head, arms and feet on the floor and her arse wriggling about in the air