June mummies '05 thread 8 -The one with where they get EVERYWHERE!

[katzg]

one new thread as requested

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Trib, you're right, we do seem to be going backwards in our attempts to meet up. If I hadn't been at the hospital tonight (seeing my new niece, Emily Tribpot) I could have popped out for a birthday drink. Hope your day improves before bedtime. I'm around tomorrow if you are? If not I will definitely be able to do lunch Thursday or Friday next week (with both boys).

Katz, sorry I don't have any useful advice but it's a very sad situation.

Saw my very beautiful niece this evening (DH has already asked me if I'm broody and the answer is yes!). DS2 seemed massive in comparison.

Right, off to bed, I'm worn out with the excitement of it all.

I did a huge post earlier and lost the lot, so am abandoning a second run at it. Thinking of all those having a rough January, partic Trib and EYM today. Hope Trib you at least had time for five quiet mins for a birthday bath maybe. I think you're amazing to cope with everything and your little Junie.
EYM you're dong so well and should be so proud of yourself for coping with everything. My brother decided rather finally several years ago that we "were all better off without him" and it so wasn't true, we all wished he'd done ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING other than that...Even that he'd run away... So talk here as much as you need to and be sure that we and all those who love you do need you, and just because you're you - good bits and bad bits - and not because of practical things and because you look after them all. Don't feel guilty at wanting it all, having it all and still not feeling happy, it makes you human. as Gidd said I think, your immenseley brave for admitting it. Can you get a way for a bit do you think? Even just a day or an afternoon for a little break? Hugs
Katz - not sure if this is any use, hope the link works. \link{http://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/info/mhgu/newmhgu15.htm} Also I spent some time with a leading bereavement specialist called Colin Murray Parkes, for a work project once and it might be worth googling him. He's president of Cruse Bereavement Care and is widely published. Cruse might be worth a go too and will undoubtedly have access to child specialists. Or you could try Great Ormand Street for advice. I have quite a lot of books because of said project and my broher so will try and have a look, but am shocking at reading these days, I never feel I have the time. (Or the light at bedtime as DS is stil in with us!)
I'm going to go now, bar a quick hello to all. TeaB hope you're lurking somewhere and ...Ahh Mrs W .. how lovely. Time for a name change to AuntyW do you think?!

morning all

am relieved dd is sleeping much better, it makes such a difference, i am actually doing some house chores

dh arrived home yesterday with an haggissomething about heritage, i guess since he is half irish half scottish there will be something else in march - i worry!

hope you all getting along ok take care

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Giddy ! Funny tradition indeed!! Burns night is more important to us that St Andrew's day! Looove haggis and totally missed it when I could have it last year. Making up for it this year and have eaten it the past 2 weekends in a row .

Troubles - ds loves all things animal, cat, dog... One of our cats just runs away, but the other one is remarkably patient with the hair pulling. My parents dogs just look bemused, but then they are retrievers so I think that's just their normal look!

Bubb - cheeeeeeeeeeeeew! And ds finds tv almost as captivating as looking at the fire. dh has bought a tractor dvd (sigh), and both of them just loove watching it. I think I'll hate it very very soon, there's only so many times you can sing "here comes a tractor..."

Katz - hope the cold gets better soon

Skyler - it may be a while before you can read this, but hope it goes ok

Auntie Wednesday congratulations and welcome to the world Emily. What a lovely name

Trib - happy birthday Hope you're feeling better. By Hebden do you mean Hebden Bridge? I worked there for 6 months when dh and I were living in W Yorkshire I agree the electric diy should be illegal. Like you say, the surveyors cover themselves by saying "the electrics look ok but you should get an electrician in to check every 5 years or on change of ownership" in the survey. It just makes me think what's the point of getting a survey at all, except the mortgage company insist on it.

I think I've lost track now, so just hello to everyone else! I'm too knackered to do this properly - had to get up at 5.30 these last two days for mornings on a course, then back to feed ds and, yesterday, to work in the afternoon. It's involved masses of driving, which I've stopped being used to since leaving west yorkshire! Glad everyone's babies are being adorable, mine is too though no signs of him learning to sign yet despite me still doing my flapping like a eejit!

And I order you all to go and eat a haggis!

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depends, we're seeing friends the dh of who, with my dh, made (and ate!) the cow pen!s stew a few years ago. Any recipe which says you have to "skim the scum off" halfway through cooking is just wrong wrong wrong! Men. They just turn into adolescents when they get together, don't they?

Thank you all for letting me share my thoughts with you, lovely junie mums hugssssss

Ive been to see the Hv feel a lot better today, even washed my hair, and didnt feel anxious at all walking out my door, so HV very impressed says what a strong woman i am, and should be proud to acheive all i have in my life, shared quite alot with Hv lately, shes a good listener.

William has put on 3 ounces so thats good, she says maybe i should up the solids and bottles again, hes still not seetling well on a nite, put hubby just takes over now he knows how bad i really was and he just trying to make up.

trib hunny please share with us how you feel, you are so lovely and do such a good job keeping your family together, but were not superwoman that i have found out myself, always caring for everyone else and never giving myself some support please take care of your self hugs.

cratchit thank you for your lovely post, it was so touching, im so sorry for loss hugs, thats what frightened me the most, actually having those thoughts, i would never leave my darling family because i have surrived a lot worse than this in my life hunny xxxxxxx

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Sfx - voce e portuguesa?!?!
Agora entendi como voce sabia que eu falo portugues.... acabei de achar uma conversa sobre bilingualismo do ano passado....
Que bom- estou precisando praticar!
Como esta indo o portugues da sua QF?

hi lua, oh yes indeed i am.
that chat was about names and i had the same problem she is called olivia adriana which works for both.
i have been very bad and hardly ever speak to her in my native tongue as i really should. i sing lullabies and read/ recite short poems, play music, etc. my family, susters and aunt speak to her in both.
dh learnt it so we would not have a secret language i think
must practice wnat her to be bi lingual as i was

Ooh, brain is attempting to turn lua's Portuguese conversation into Spanish so I can understand it! Think I have most of it, esp with ability to blag a bit of Catalan as well, but can't respond due to taking Japanese as my second language at uni, not Portuguese like everyone else I know

Anyway, apols for my outburst yesterday ladies, it was just such a low day and I feel so very isolated from everyone and everything normal. (God knows I know I am not the only one and a lot of you have more to cope with than I do).

The tribpot clan went to visit the Wednesday clan today - hurrah, contact with other human beings! Even small ones! WednesdayBoy2 is still utterly adorable and on my kidnap list, WednesdayBoy1 is also lovely, but frankly too much of a livewire to make the kidnap list. So sweet to my ds, though, in between being a little jumping bean. MrsW, I take my hat off to you in coping with your two lovely little dses.

EYM, so glad you are feeling better and that William is putting on some weight.

2Happy - obviously I let the Burns tradition pass me by when I lived in Scotland (due to it being "Tribpot's Night", not "Burns' Night" in my view). Quite glad about that now Yes, Hebden = Hebden Bridge. I keep trying to set up a Manch-Leeds meet there because I have a lot of family in the town so could kill two birds with one stone, but the Manchester ladies like to come to Leeds. I could resurrect ancient feuds between the two cities but I shan't - when I was at Uni they used to do t-shirts and badges saying "Leeds. North of Manchester" [which is meant to mean 'better than', Southern ladies].

Will start a meet-up thread, MrsW is amenable to the weekend, katz, but maybe weekday suits you better lua?

Cratchit, so many sympathies for you.

Telly-wise, ds never watches kids' telly (I never really thought he would 'get it') but does like Match of the Day. Mind you, a few days ago he laughed at Neil Kinnock on the news, acceptable, but on the same day he laughed at Osama bin Laden as well.

oh trib very dangerous thing to mention portuguese and spanish in the same sentence

ha you are portuguese? so you speak spanish dont you ? its the same innit? [punch]

Hi all - just a quickie to say v excited, bought my highchair - bloody finally! Went for the sensible option in the end as have been unable to decide which if anyof the pricier ones so spent all of £15 at Ikea on a plastic one with a tray that also comes off and goes up to the table. DS absolutely loves it and spent ages just banging the tray with his fist and everything he could find. One hapy little boy and a mummy that isn't working not spending tonsof cash. DH was v impressed too. Popular with my boys in one day - blimey!

Ah, sfx, was not implying "Portuguese, Spanish, it's all the same, innit?" (much like, er, English and German then). But written down I can follow Portuguese.

Trib, where I come from we say anyone can speak spanish, you just have to put a drunk accent....
I suspect the Spanish say the same....
But if I am really honest I might have a harder time understanding sfx than a lot of Spanish speakers....
There is a family from Portugal in DDs nursery, and I was all excited trying to encourage her to speak with the. Until they start replying to us, and none of us couldn't understand it....

Well, it would be easier to do weekday, so I would be on my own. But it is definetely possible to arrange something in the weekend if that's what the majority prefers....

I am definetely fine with Hebden, I just feel guilty ecause we promissed AuntyW that we would meet in Leeds next...

BTW, Trib, why did evry body you know took Portuguese? Is there a large portuguese community somewhere close by?

KVG - Good to hear from you. Motherhood can be isolating sometimes, I definetely agree. Are you planing on going back to work?

2Happy - call me crazy but I like haggis.....vegetarian, though!

Sfx - Love, Olivia! it was among our picks if DS was a DD...

It;s great that your Dh can speak, that should help! I threaten my Dh that if he didn't learn I would make fun of him with the kids in "our language". Thus, he has improved greatly, and has kept up with DD! Unfortunataly, somewhere last year she became so sofisticated with heruse of english that the portuguese almost completely disappear... She still does understand pretty much everything. So I am hoping this would be enough, to keep it fresh on her brain! Also, the only time she watches TV is to watch DVDs in portuguese. So I'm hoping that if starve her enough of TV she will be willing to see lots of portuguese programs!

trib / lua did not mean that, its usually quite funny. mostly little nation invaded and occupied for years has large chip on shoulder

know what you mean most people in port. understand your accent due to being used to telenovelas and the like. but not the other way around, and much less my regional accent, at least not at embassy the poncy gits

oh i need some sleep

lua, everyone took Portuguese cos it was easier to learn than Japanese mi amiga I'm willing to admit it's not the same language but cripes, it doesn't involve learning multiple new alphabets either!

I can tell the difference between Brazilian Portuguese and Portuguese Portuguese, but I do feel if you ladies would just learn to speak Spanish la vida será más fácil, ¿no? (joking)

Good point that even MrsW and I together would struggle to get our three little boys on a train to Hebden, Leeds prob better from that point of view. Can always do one weekend and one weekday fiesta.

leeds/manchester i aint bothered just need to be able to get there by public transport.

i'm off on mon and fri.

can eym make leeds?

Meet-up thread - let's see if we can manage to get together this time!

Afternoon mums hugsss

WOw what a day i had yesterday, sorry i hope you dont mind me sharing this with you, my middle bot james who has aspergas has ben for some councling, and yesterday he came back with a leter that hed wrote to his dad because he never got to say goodbye to his dad like all my boys, counclers idea, and he actually let me read it yesterday, and he told me how bad he felt some days, this is my midle boy who hardly ever talks openely to me, i feel so privaliged that hes shared his depest thought with me, as i know how hard it is for him, but afterwards i was emotionally exhausted, i did say all the right words i ope been very positive and up for his sake but i felt so drained, when hubby came in he sent me to bed, and i stayed there all nite.