July 2010 - Next thread, cba to think of a title

[Chulita]

I want to witter away to you lot and none of you have come up with the goods so this will have to do...

Oh trudy, how awful - that sounds so traumatic, and how sad that your DH couldn't be there and wasn't around for the first few days. Glad to hear M is all better and that the feeding is going so well. Be gentle on yourself, you've been through a lot.

trudy my main tip would be like wss, put your feet up and do as little as possible for at least two weeks. Sounds impossible but it makes a huge difference, with L I was doing stuff too soon and it took me 10 months to recover, with S I sat and let DH/my mum do everything and I was so much better in about 3 weeks. There's also a good book called C-section recovery that has some really good stretches that you can start from day one to strengthen things up again. Ebay often has them cheap!
Wrt to him being all alone when he came out, I properly welled up at that, but with both of my two, although I wasn't out, they were still taken off me for a good 30-40 mins while I was stitched up etc, I know some people have them straight away but I could hear them both yelling and couldn't hold them, just sucked balls. Neither appear to be traumatised by it now So, so pleased that M has taken to him well!

btw, I didn't just suck balls, the situation sucked balls - thought I should clarify

Oh dear wss - 'twas worth a try anyway!

Trudy I'm sorry you had such a tough time. Your little boy will certainly not have felt alone coming into the world, please don't upset yourself by thinking that :( Given a choice everything would have gone differently but the most important thing is he got here safe and sound, and you are safe and sound too.

Gracie I have no idea what they are?! I am very surprised they didn't give you a card to tell you, how daft! You'll have to google them and see what matches the pictures - let me know cos I'm interested!

Speaking of 'interesting' I found a recipe for beetroot risotto which I really want to try but think dh will just be wtf is that

Gracie- all I can think of for the hot pink stalks is rhubarb!

Took half an hour for D to go to sleep as per. Half hour of crying, thrashing and trying to play with my nipple am thinking because of his teeth he needs a bit of extra comfort and as he always used to have that from bfing he associates comfort with my boobs.

trudy congratulations! Frederick is just beautiful. :)

Bloody hell trudy - you really tried to tick every freaking box in the bad birth checklist, you poor darling! Like the others have said, altho I totally get why it upsets you (I welled up reading it too) that you weren't awake when F came out, he'll have been fine with someone warm and loving holding him and he'll have heard her voice when in the womb so he'll have felt safe. As chulita said, mine were whisked away for ages after my c-secs (particularly F as it was an emergency too) but they didn't seem at all affected by it.

You were so brave going thru it all without dh. The op sounds so scary. Could you feel actual pain of them cutting you?!

Re healing, def do take it as easy as possible even if you feel fine. I healed v quickly with both of mine but after the 1st I kept overdoing it and feeling in pain again, whereas I took it slower with A so had no relapses and was driving 3 wks. I put lavender oil on the scar both times and the scar's healed well. Unlike wss I didn't get much/any numbness but lots of pain for the first week. After that it was fine tho that's when you have to be careful not to overdo things.

Sorry, maffis unclear waffle as on bb.

gracie chard? :)

mlic how was big boy after nursery and how's the littl'un?

Oh and I laughed at the thought of your dh and the risotto mlic!

tsc don't you love/need/want us anymore?! You ok?

Good to see you dylthan - how's things?

Oh and my knobend of a boss has fucked me off so badly 2 days in a row. He's either the worst communicator ever or a total arse or both. I LOVE my job but not sure I can put up with him much longer. I'm not sure if he's just the bad bit that you just have to accept with every job tho? Tbh, I only see him once every month or 2 and speak about once a fortnight so it could be worse - it's just his emails that bloody stink.

Oh fuck I think I've just fallen out with bil on fb. Why didn't I keep my mouth shut. Bollocks.

Both fine thanks cake. Babyboy been a trooper (as is status quo these days, touch wood) and biglad was fine apparently. I rang at 10.30 to check on him and he was ok at 4.20 when I picked them up

Just to add to what I said earlier trudy my other tip is to take all your pain meds on the dot - don't skip any. You may feel much better after a few days and think you don't need them so much but keep them up for as long as they are prescribed for. Actually I stopped taking my Voltaren earlier as it was giving me awful diarrhea (can't spell it) but apart from that I took them.

You are so unlucky the epi didn't work, I think there is just a small proportion of the population they don't work on. I remember when they told me I needed a c/s with A the first thing I said was "I won't be able to feel anything will I?". How horrible for you that you did. I actually can't imagine going through that on my own. You've done so well.

Mine were both taken away after the birth - not for that long actually, they brought them over to me to see quite quickly but I couldn't hold them till I'd been stitched up - and both seem fine :)

Oh no mlisc what's happened?

Yeah I'm fine thanks cake still waiting on my appointment to come through.

I think I probably have a bit of a family drama coming my way. :(

Ooooh! Found card with trash I was about to throw out!

The mutant cauliflower is called 'romanseca' and the pink and orange things are 'covola Nero' which is a type of chard.

We had romanesco roasted with dinner. It was yummy.

i said chard

Phew, I text him and all is good. Teach me to drink a glass of wine before my tea, will keep my mouth shut next time!

Ahhh, of course

Dylth what family drama :(

So, little (not developmental) survey, what is everyone getting their dc(s) for Christmas? And how far through your shopping are you?

Also what are you all getting for your dh/ps? I'm stuck for ideas for dh so I'm looking for inspiration. I have a friend who makes jewellrey so I have bought some hand-made cufflinks from her, I can't think of anything else now.

No idea what to get D or DH I suppose D will be easier, he'll enjoy any toys.

Dh will either get an Xbox game or clothes orrrr.....umm..sex?

Don't look for inspiration from me for dh cake! My dh has everything so is impossible to buy for. A daft 'flight' experience last Christmas for a present and he is now only a couple of hours off achieving his pilot's license The man wants for nothing :(

I've been buying for the kids from us/my parents/my aunt/ my mil so know most of what they have. Also bear in mind that it's ds1's birthday beginning of next month so some are birthday pressies - haven't decided what will be for birthday and what for Christmas yet:

DS1 has got
A [[http://www.vtechuk.com/storio/ Storio]
A MobiGo
A Doodle Doug
A Noddy road mat thingy with two cars
A Winnie the Pooh magnetic thingy
Some craft (safty) siscors - he's obsessed with 'snip, snipp'ing
A 'learn to write numbers' thingy
Some magnetic letters/phonics stuff
The Toy Story trilogy

DS2 has got
A marble run thing but with biggish balls (not marbles, for safety)
A '1st laptop'
A basketball hoop and balls for the bath

Erm, I can't actually remember any more - my head was fried from yet another trip round toys r us today and everything is still in the boot of the car as I had to pick the boys up on the way home so had to hide it all! I will update the list tomorrow :)

Sorry I meant wss, not cake!

Its a bit of a long story.

My parents live on a decommisioned croft (where me and db grew up) so have lots of land.

When I was pregnant and not well my dad applied for planning permission for a building plot stating that as I might not recover after I give birth I would need to be close to my family. (I'm not meant to know that this is how they got the planning permission)

Thankfully I did recover so it was decided that he would apply for a second plot for db the planning for this has just been turned down but the planner says that they couldnt approve the planning because it is in the field where as if it was part of the garden they probably would approve it so the plan is to extend the garden and re apply for planning in a year.

But.....

The first plot needs to have one of us start building on it and we have to apparently have a nice discussion about which one of us it should be.

If you remember what I said previously about my db's partner then you'll remember that she doesn't do nice. I just know she'll make everyone's lifes a living hell if we don't just roll over and give it to her :(

What do your parents think though Dylth? Surely by rights it is your plot as it was applied for in your name/granted on your circumstances? I think it's unfair to have to 'fight it out' :(

They want nothing to do with it now they are wussing out and saying it is up to us to sort it between our selfs.

Sil has been a compleate bitch since our ill fated holiday dn goes to the nursery in the same school that my dm works at and sil always compleatly blanks her but since there has been news about the plots she has been nice as pie to everyone. They don't know that the second plot has been turned down yet but when they do I can see her taking the charm offensive up a whole new level it makes me sick that she's only nice when she wants something.

Yes cake, sorry. I thought saying it was a type of chard was giving you recognition, but you definitely win the obscure vegetable recognition award

Hmm, sounds tricky dylthan

I have bought a basketball hoop and balls bath toy too mlisc. I haven't decided which one of them to give it to yet. Doesn't really matter, they will both use it.

I have got A an Aquadoodle, a new medical kit as her old one was a cheapy one that has bits broken, a bead threading kit, a spacehopper and we may get her a bike. So far for G I have a doll and a big bag of Megablocks.

Need to get stocking stuff, just felt tips, hairclips, choc coins etc. $2 shop stuff (equiv of Poundland here) :)

Just the cuflinks for dh so far and not a frigging clue what else to get him

That was my thinking too wss, they will both use it, so I'm giving it to DS2 who currently has fewer presents. It's for both of them to fight over though really.

I'm half-minded to say to dh not to bother exchanging presents this year. It seems silly with me not having a wage coming in, and I spent a lot of money on him for his birthday earlier in the year. I think it would make sense to just wait until I get a job, with the exception of maybe a CD or pair of pyjamas, that sort of thing.

Its the same here mlisc we're using the joint account to buy each other presents so it's a bit pointless! Esp as I'm picking my present (new winter coat)

D was crap again, he slept for 2 hours after being put to bed. He then woke at half 11 and it took me nearly an hour to get him back to sleep and he slept for a whole hour and came into our room. It's hard to know if something is actually bothering him or if he's just getting too used to coming in with us again.