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ssmile · 29/08/2011 19:36

Hello. Think i was first to deliver off the September EDD thread so waving to see if anyone else out there yet to join me :)
Had my 2nd DD on 26aug by C-sec. We now home but struggling with BF and baby lost 10% body weight in 3days. Started to top up with formula in syringe to try give cracked. Bleeding nipples a rest, but milk is starting to drip out now leaking everywhere! Hoping for a better night tonight after 3nights of hourly feeds and snatching 2-3hrs of sleep.
Anyone else struggling too?

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ssmile · 29/10/2011 00:01

summetpixie I feel.for you as feeling the same. We all been ill this week my nicely set up.routine went out the window, my nicely settling babe had been mega clingy won't sleep half the night unless on me. Despite my post earlier now having freagging crap start to the night as babe been up 4 since 8pm and normally this is best part of the night when I guaranteed min 2hrs sleep but normally two*2hrs, so far I've had an hr feel utterly exhausted could sit and ball eyes out got another long freagging day tom where I have to be all smiley to DH family, two long car journeys and listen to my smug SIL who had both her DD in gina ford routine by 3wks and they sleep like angels :-( sorry I'm soundin off. Hope u all get some sleep tonight ..:.....roll on end of half time I need some down time too.

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ssmile · 29/10/2011 00:03

Posted on phone Blush bolding. sorry will try slooping off now.........

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jimmijam · 29/10/2011 07:50

ssmile is gina ford the crying routine? Iv never been in the right headspace 2 do something like that, & never could i dont think but its not harming them so could b a saviour.
As of last week we found out dh has underactive thyroid, ridiculously high cholesterol. & now he's having more investigations in2 his iron level :-(
1st shop after his shift later, there shall b purely healthy food with low potassium (another prob). Gunna take a looooong time 2day
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100years · 29/10/2011 09:36

Ssmile thanks re what uve done with LO. She's always been really active in the evening and from 10 used to be madness time with her. She's slowly getting more tired at that time. Last night I tried settling her from 9, she took till about 20 past 11 but I think I got to sleep before midnight :) just got to keep it up now, going to be a long few days trying to get her down early. Curtains are open now and she's still not awake yet but is not sleeping deeply either. I do hope this works.

Jimmi thanks, I don't check the red book that often on those pages, I really ought to! My OH knew that all babies do it when I mentioned it to him. [bad mummy who knows nowt emoticon]

Hope u feel better soon summer

Minky my sis is a qual chef although is now a sahm and so I've used her tried and tested recipe :) so I'm hoping my cake turns out well. It's a lot of work for something that OH may eat very quickly, although its bloody massive! I'm good with all other cakes etc so hoping this one is half decent.

LO is so cute when she's asleep, she smiles as she's dropping off and when it looks like she's dreaming. beautiful baby, love her loads.
Have a good day folks. :)

sebs71 · 29/10/2011 10:19

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Well done to all on night routines. We're going to tighten our evening routines next week when half term over and DP back in work and kids school and life returns to normal!

She is starting to stay more awake in day and sleep more at night though :)

Hugs to all those poorly or coping with poorly LO - or both.

Can't do much to make house warmer - we had new boiler this year so that's helping but house is 250 years old so we're coping with what we've got!!

100years- my LO is giggling and smiling now too - it's gorgeous. She's got half a grin now asleep in her chair!

You've reminded me I was going to make Christmas cake this week!! Must organise and get ingredients then fit it in when I can

Phones insurance re driving - they just said they go with what DVLA say. So checked website who say normally ok to drive once GP says ok at 6 week check. But my check isn't till 8 weeks as they combine with LO. But midwife at hospital said 6 weeks no driving so I'm going with that as medical advice and will jump in car!! Will go for quick drive on own this weekend first to make sure ok.

Sun's out ... So have good day everyone and remember - extra hour in bed tonight - which is just one more hour to rock LO to sleep !! Here come the dark nights!!

100years · 29/10/2011 11:35

Remember my awful day last Friday with the mammoth feeds and the trip out, well we've received a fine for apparently being at the services for 9 1/2 hours on the day. We stopped there on the way there and the way back. Camera has caught our number plate and flagged up as stopping over 2 hours. It's a services for north and southbound carriages plus other main routes! Ffs we are appealing. I say we received a fine it's actually me as its my car but OH was driving.

feralgirl · 29/10/2011 13:49

Jimmi if you're the bill payer then you can choose how you pay your bill I think. same as if you want a meter for gas and electricity. When we moved in we just phoned SWW and told them we wanted fixed tariff not metered and it was done.

100years, I was talking to my brother about fines from supermarkets and the suchlike this weekend and he says that, unless it's actually a county council managed area, there's no real legal basis for fining people for parking. It's a bit complicated but there's some stuff here in the section about private companies. Obviously you weren't there for 9 hours anyway but just in case you need something to boost your argument! Silly buggers!

RE evening routines, I tried putting DD down in bed at 8pm-ish the other night and she was awake wanting feeding within 20 mins. I decided I couldn't be doing with missing Eastenders traipsing up and down the stairs so I'm sticking with keeping her in the living room with me so she can cluster feed until she zonks out at 10pm-ish. I reckon I'll try again next week. Besides which, I got a bit lonely without her for those 20 mins Sad

Also tried to give her a bottle of EBM a couple of days ago; I don't care if she doesn't ever take a bottle and just has a sippy cup when she's bigger but she and DH have really not bonded at all and she just screams whenever he picks her up so we thought we should have a go. It did NOT go down well as she just had no idea what to do with it and was just totally outraged!

100years · 29/10/2011 16:57

Thanks feral :) OH has had some info of the same nature and I'm leaving the action in his hands now. Re routine I'm going to try stick with it for a few days and see how it goes, if she's still awake at 11 after a few days of trying etc I might just knock it on the head as opposed to getting frustrated with it. And the bottle, some babies take a few attempts of bottle feeding if ebf, and trying diff teats may help, hope u find something to work so they can bond. It'll also give u a feed where it's not you doing it which I think is nice to have that 'time off'

feralgirl · 29/10/2011 20:16

100years, yeah we've still got the tommy tippee bottles from when DS was a hardcore bottle refuser so I'll give them a go in a day or two when DH and DD have got over it!

Got her face down in my lap atm as it's the only position that doesn't have her screaming with belly ache. I've administered gripe water but it doesn't seem to have done the trick yet. I know what'll happen, I'll feed her again in a bit and then she'll do a monstrous projectile vomit - probably while I'm eating my dinner - and then she'll be absolutely fine.

DS has got a raging ear infection and was up all night Sad Why doesn't MN have a grey-faced, baggy-eyed exhausted emoticon? It'd get used loads I reckon.

ssmile · 29/10/2011 20:32

Oh yes feralgirl I'd like one of those emotions have felt like that a lot this week! Hope your DS does better tonight ear infections really hurt.
I reckon I'm running on adrenaline overdrive now. Been out all day, had 5hrs driving, visiting with relatives. Gotta love my DHs nan, I was eating very small cake (which we took) she says "you prob shouldn't you are a bit fat at the moment dear" err I had baby 8wks ago by c-sec kinda ruled out any exercise for 6wks! Hohum gd job I just laughed at her and said I know but the cakes nice and finished it off with a grin :)
On subject of bottle our DD1 never took one, everyone tried even my dad who didn't believe us. We tried about 5 different sippy cups as well until at 7.5mths and a week before I went back to work she took a cup. With this Lo she was fine taking small amount in a bottle whilst I was feeding off shields but now I'm not she has refused the last 3attempts by my DH! Oh dear we will keep trying. My friend said she wore her husbands tshirt to try bottle feed her Lo once they got one a day established.

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Minkyjj · 29/10/2011 23:46

Evening ladies. Am trying to hit the sack earlier than usual tonight as I exhausted. Thanks to whoever suggested the low lighting for night feeds - had forgotten about how babies get awake when overstumulated. Tried it last two nights using just the nightlight and lo slept better - fed for 5-10 mins and then straight back down - so much better.
I still can't sort out my constipation though - the gp prescribed a laxative that he said to be careful with or it could give me the runs. I took minimum dose 1st night. - nothing. Second night took max dose - again nothing just stomach ache. I feel like a blocked drain !

ssmile · 30/10/2011 07:18

minkyj hope the constipation eases that's not nice I've only suffered with it when pregnant have you tried prune juice, drinking lots water and q swim breast stroke always helped me. gd luck.
did anyone else follow the Tele addicts thread on x factor last night? I was feeding Lo in dim bedroom following it on my phone giggling away almost feel like no need to watch it now, as I normally watch sun or Mon on catch-up tv.
hope u had better night. Lo went down 8.30pm again slept in cot till midnight so fingers Xed slowly gettin back to where we were before week of colds. she couldn't settle 12-2 lots of wind but then slept 2-4 in bed and 4-6 leaning upright on me. she still snuffling with last of cold.

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feralgirl · 30/10/2011 07:22

Gah, why don't toddlers understand that the clocks going back is supposed to mean an extra hour in bed?! DS is much better today thanks ssmile but up and about at 5.30. With DD not settling last night til gone 11 and then waking in the night I'm feeling a bit cruddy today.

Your nan sounds like mine Ssmile, queens of the unsubtle comment. Good for you for scoffing the cake though Grin. I'm starting Slimming World today so no more cake for me Sad My crappy diet is playing hell with my digestive system and I am way too fat so it really is time to get on it and sort myself out.

Minky I just use a very dim night light at night and I have a grolight for nappy changes which is just enough to see what I'm doing but not enough for DD to wake up properly. Hope your laxatives do the job, sounds really uncomfortable so fingers crossed for some action soon!

Minkyjj · 30/10/2011 08:02

That sounds good advice about the grolight feral - will investigate. I agree with you about the clock change but would like to add my dh to your toddler - last night he was very kind to point out that we all get a lie-in today but just didn't get it when I pointed out that maybe lo wouldn't quite understand this practice. He has irritated me immensely by turning off the intercom phone in his bedroom so his lie-ins are not affected and hd moans if he has to get up earlier than ten at a weekend. Having been awake till 12 then up at 2, 4, 6 and then from 7 my patience is almost non existent. As much as I should be getting up for church to learn more on the art of forgiveness I think I may just roll over if lo goes back to sleepybies !
Well done feral on slimming world - having eaten my weight in crap food last night I may have to follow soon.
Ssmile - glad to hear your lo is on the mend - hope you get your sleep back soon.

ssmile · 30/10/2011 08:04

My cycle trainer is now set up in our cold damp garage just got to shift this cold which is dragging on and I will try do 10mins few times a week, I'm hoping that with walk to school should start to shift some lbs, ate last of chocolate at 6am :) told DH not to buy me any more! Here's to us getting fitter &leaner.........as the nan was right I'm a bit fat dear!

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feralgirl · 30/10/2011 09:36

Minky, I don't think Gro Company do the grolights any more, I tried to find another so we'd have one for DS and one for DD. It's a pita coz they're really useful; they fit to the main light and when you turn it on it comes on as a really low light. Let me know if you find anywhere with them in stock!

Good effort on the cycle trainer Ssmile, I wish I had space for one.

ssmile · 30/10/2011 10:45

We got our plug in lights in independent hardware store, the B&Q ones were crap but the other ones were £4 each and a year later still going. I feel a mini expert on the bloody things in the last 4.5yrs we have got through lots whilst trying to get DD1 to sleep! Too bright she sits and reads/plays for hrs with her toys in the night, too dark she gets scared won't sleep. Also try the lowest watt bulb you can buy in normal side light with a dark shade on it works too. We have those lamps from B&Q where you just touch the base and it comes on.
:o have just done 15mins on cycle trainer was heaven just to have rare 15mins with no child in site with headphones music blasting even if it was in the garage :) came in though babe crying head off, DD1 demanding attention &DH looking hagged trying to eat his breakie ......I was only gone 15min! 10/10 though to hubbie for not coming out to get me the minute babe started crying!

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Glimmerberry · 30/10/2011 11:46

ssmile i have the same plan as you. Just bought a cross trainer and cancelled my gym membership. I'm not going to get there in the current circumstances, but 10min exercise sessions at home should be possisble. I'm about 20lbs over my pre-preg weight and feel quite unfit. From Monday the plan is to try and get 10 mins in every day and build up the time weekly.

I don't really want to diet beyond not eating junk/snacks; i'm too worried about affecting DS's weight since I'm ebf. He is still on the low side having been slow to regain his birthweight. Is there any way of increasing the calorific content of breast milk?

This new baby stuff is really anxiety provoking isn't it? I'm either constantly concerned about his weight or something else, or obsessing over some comment from the HV. Unfortunately at his 8 week check he still had a lot of head lag and now i'm worrying about that. Offering tummy time multiple times per day...

The downside of him sleeping really well is worrying that he doesn't have enough time to feed or develop. Irrationally i've been toying with waking him half way thru for more feeding.

Minkyjj · 30/10/2011 12:23

Glimmerberry - take some advice from an old timer who has learnt the hard way. Stop worrying and ignore 99% of what you hear even from hv and medical people. We have done so many sleepless nights over the last 10 years with our kids and seen so many health professionals for everything from hearing and speech issues to ambulance dashes with a fitting baby - the thing I am just learning is that every baby has there own time to do something and the guidelines are just that. The hv has a job to do if the baby doesn't meet a target they will flag up a problem but it doesn't often mean there is one. My kids didn't walk till they were 18 months old - now you can't stop them ! I am sure your little one is fine, I would go with his pattern for a while and try not to worry. I purposely only get a hv weigh in done once a month as that way I don't worry every week. It's harder the first time not to worry because the hv can be a bit too involved but if they see you are calm and confident they will back off a little. Just remember that you will know when there is a problem and you will get to know your baby better than anyone. My dc2 is currenly on the 9th percentile for weight but the 90th for height so he appears to be quite underweight - I know he is fine - he feeds well and he us content and happy so I am not going to get worried.

sebs71 · 30/10/2011 14:00

That's so weird - I was just talking to my DP this morning about how I feel worried about 90 % of the time over feeds, temp, weight etc etc that it can stop you from enjoying the LO. As it's my first but his third he's so much more laid back and pragmatic than me so helps to keep me from panicking too much. But glimmer I feel just like you and know minky is right but it is hard to stay chilled!! Coming on here helps as you realise others are having similar issues so things that appear abnormal are actually normal!

100years · 30/10/2011 15:26

Feral, aaah you've been there before, sorry. Hope something works for you. I hate ear infections :( I'm thinking of joining SW too, going to look where there are classes near me and go from there. Although like Glimmer I'm also EBF and not wanting to effect the breast milk. For me it would be a way of just limiting the snacks, whether I need to go to a class or not I'm not sure.

Hope you enjoyed the cake ssmile :) I've just actually been out on my bike! On the actual main roads, been a year, now have wobbly legs from it!

Minky, constipation is horrible, I suffer badly from it at times, once I was crying in pain as I hadn't been for over a week, just felt really really full iykwim. I wasn't too bad during pregnancy thankfully though. I've started only using the light off my iPhone to attach LO for feeds now in the night as we both are much more used to feeding and latching on so don't now need a lot of light. Occasionally I need a bit more, but it's a lot easier now and she seems more settled in the middle of the night. Sorry your OH is not playing ball with helping and turning off the intercom :( My OH much as he went to church this morning and out to a race yesterday, if I was really struggling and had a rubbish night if I asked him he wouldn't go and would help me out as he could.

Glimmer, good luck with the cross trainer, I have one in the kitchen, it's really good. Glimmer, you will be doing everything you can for your LO, I'm a first timer, and don't know how to do x, y or z, but you have to trust that you are the best person for your LO and you will do what's right for them.

So yesterday we didn't try going through so early last night as LO had spent a large proportion of yesterday napping so when she was awake late evening there was no point in trying, we still went through about 11ish and she was asleep before midnight, mainly because when she was half asleep I lay her down next to me and dozed off and on myself and it was dark in there, will keep it up.

We are now going into mostly 0-3 month clothes now as she is almost outgrowing the newborn sized clothes! aaah my little thing is growing bigger!

jimmijam · 30/10/2011 16:14

Just skimmed thru last few posts 4 now, sorry.
fera iv seen the gro light attachments somewhere. Google it & c wot comes up. The greatlittletradingcompany.co.uk usially have bits like that
does that stem from a conversation about night lights? We have a touch lamp on bedsides with 3 light settings but even the dimmest is 2 bright @ night. Plug in nightlights we have give more of a useless glow (tho ds loves them in his room)
Well done all on excercise!
Made healthy (well, 4 cakes) muffins 2day, recipe from benecol.com . Scrumptious!!
Dont suppose any of u know a cheap version of benecol? So expensive!
4got hour change so dh started work an hour early!! Heehee, told him 2 think of extra money. Good job he wasnt opening the restauramt this morning, they would have opened @ 5am!! Heehee

Jojo1983 · 30/10/2011 21:01

Hey everyone not been on lately as had family staying was lovely to see them and for the help they gave me but so glad they have gone now!
Only few more days until im off to somerset cant wait overly excited about surprising my nan and grandad!

Has anyone elses baby had there BCG injection??

My exercise now consists of walking everywhere, went for a walk the other day with baby my niece and nephew 5 hours later we got back home! Boy was I tired that night.

Will also be looking into getting a gro light so if anyone see thems can they please let me know?

Glimmerberry · 30/10/2011 22:41

Thanks minky, sebs and 100years, reassuring that what i'm feeling is normal. I have a long, thin baby too, minky. I think he is 45th c for length but 2nd for weight. He has never had a green poo, looks healthy and hydrated, pees and poos loads (4 changes of clothes for leakage today!) and feeds well. I should be able to relax. It makes me feel incredibly sad that i'm wasting this time with him worrying about everything. I only have till Feb on leave and want to make the most of it. There always seems to be some hurdle to get over, from the MW, Paeds, HV...first his weight, now the head lag. I really need to keep it in perspective.

Minkyjj · 31/10/2011 05:33

Glimmer it is really hard when it's your first, I really understand how you feel but lo sounds like lo and you are doing just fine. I have learnt the hard way with two older dcs that never did the milestones like other kids did but I have realised that it really doesn't matter because they get there when they are ready and then usually surpass the kids they lagged so far behind. My ds1 who is 6.5 has always been "different" on a lovely way and never hit the milestones - we have just had an educational psychology assesent done and loads of tests and it turn out that he is "gifted" on the intelligence scale and so he thinks ahead of most kiddies. Now we know we just have to work with him in a different way but if I had taken all the rubbish that has been suggested by various "specialists" over the last few years you would have wondered if he would even manage to learn anything at all - I have been told he has listening problems, speech problems, a stutter, doesn't hit the targets - nobody thought it could be that it was because it was because he was bored ! Then again being a parent is all about worry so when you become a new mum part of it is learning what to worry about and what to let go. You will get there, just takes time.