July 2010: now they're all 1, some me-time has begun [huge feck-off sarcasm emoticon]

[CakeandRoses]

am bf A and telling F off and have still come to the rescue.

blimey its gone quiet on here, wheres chu and cake?
Sorry i didnt realize u guys were using the necklace to. My dh isnt keen on it being left on over night so its off right now.
DH i dont think D will be ready for one nap for a while yet, but i like tht the nursery have sleep time after lunch so when he is redy he will just drop his morning half hour and possibly keep the hour and a half after lunch.
mylife good news about the cast, 3 weeks doesnt seem long or is that standard?
memph whats tumble tots? I really want to find a play group to start taking D to so i can still go there with the new baby in tow but they are at stupid times e.g 1.30-3, nap time!
D is having his MMR tomorrow,Im dreading it, I think he is the last one on here to have it, any hints or tips anyone, also my DH was wondering if its safe with me being pregnant if he gets poorly afterwards, i have never heard that it isnt but hes put doubt in my mind now.

Vik I'm sure it's absolutely fine with you being PG. If he does get poorly it isn't with a proper version of one of those illnesses so there's no way it can affect you. Speak to the nurse if you're worried. With the MMR, the reaction is generally a bit delayed. J had a rash which came out about 6 days after the jab. He was poorly the day after but I think that was the 12 month jabs he was reacting to (he had them at the same time).

Don't get too hung up on the nap being after lunch - J has just about settled into a routine of napping 11-12.30. Though both today and yesterday he didn't sleep at nursery all morning (I collect him at 1.30) so I took him straight home and put him to bed - in fact today he was asleep before we got home - and he slept till 3.30.

MLISC, glad the cast comes off before too long. I think greenstick fractures in a child this age do heal really quickly. He'll forget it ever happened before too long!

I'm lurking still. Sorry I've been quiet. V hectic with dh totally useless out of action, E starting school (afternoons only) this week, getting L to nursery and dh to various appointments. Driven 130+ miles just today. Hospital were rubbish yesterday. Dh may have smashed thqe bone into little pieces but they're not sure as xray isn't clear. Wait another 2 wks.then go back. If healing physio, if not we'll wait longer & maybe xray. Oh but full in 2 wks so.come back in 3. Shambles! Going private tomorrow (with top orthopedic consultant in area). So glad have.medical.cover thru work (only decent thing about it tbh.

E been a star starting school. Only 2nd afternoon and didn't want me to go in with her and didn't went to leave to come home either.

Woods how was J without his milk. Do you thinly maybe he's ready to drop it?

mlic nice to see u back and glad the plaster comes off soon.

Vik reaction to mmr are usually delayed a few days. L was quite poorly 4 days after with a fever. He hasn't actually had his 13mth jabs yet (had early mmr) as wasnt well and hopefully will have his op in 1 1/2 wks so reluctant to get it done nxt week.

memph glad starky is ok

How's F public

sorry i've been quiet - mad day at work again and then had friends round for pizza immediately after putting the children down.

have made a lot of enemies in high places at work but i don't care a jot :) have just been trying to do the right thing and fuck the politics.

yes vik, we keep the necklaces on all the time too. i think i feel safer about A's because she's STILL on the angelcare mat but tbh i probably would have done it anyway. it's the norm in countries where they're commonplace.

great news on the nursery - hope you get a place soon. good nurseries just make life so much nicer and easier for everyone.

A hasn't had her mmr yet either. i left a msg for the surgery and haven;t caught up with them yet. i wasn't in too much of a rush tho tbh as i thought she might deal with it better at 13m+. Hope D's goes well.

i meant to say - i've not been using calpol etc since that article either and tbh haven't really noticed she deals with teething any worse.

how;s fong now tsc?

did you try doing a diy waterproof cast mlic?

memph send some carrot cupcakes this way please - my fave!

catch up properly tomo. bedtime at last and A is likely to be up lots with teething tonight :(

oh and v exciting about the job mlic. good luck! it was me mentioning about shopping my way to work that did it wasn't it?

I don't even know what happened last night. D was just awake and crawling around and talking loads at around midnight and he didn't really go back to sleep properly so I am vvvvvv tired.

Haven't got any plans today which is a good thing I can hopefully arch up on some sleep later.

It was

Although I would earn a pittance so no shopping on the way to work, and it's in a village (not a quaint little village, an industrial one) so there's no shops! We'll see. As all it takes is for the headmistress/teacher to have someone set up for the job already and it's gone. I used to work in local government so know how it works Although saying that, there was someone set up for my previous job but I totally out-shined her at interview and got it anyway

viksam Tumble Tots is all padded slides and co ordination toys like stepping blocks. tubes etc all on differerent levels you work your way around the room but unlike sold play it is structured and they also sing songs, L doesnt stop, he is into everything and doesnt really enjoy normal baby group so this is a great way of wearing him out, but as you have to help them climb and follow them around (not that he let me) cant see someone doing it with a baby too.
With L's amber necklace teething doesnt bother him at all in the day but in the night he is still bad, we had to ring NHS Direct at 3am as DH gave him Nurofen and I already had within the 4 hour time frame, she said not to worry the 4 hours between isnt improtant they just say that so you dont overdose on the days doses, I was a bit and as surely some people would read that as oh I can give 6 doses in an hour, I was baffled but he is fine, dh doesnt realise they are drugs in them, I was telling him paracetamol not nurofen and he didnt listen, I said to him I feel like I need to load up syringes before we go bed so he doesnt make a mistake, but he is his dad so why hould I have to do something like that its more work for me!! So im shattered as I was too worried to sleep....GRR sorry rant over, just needed to get it off of my chest!
Ive got the group ladies coming and if they turn their slimmers world noses up at my cakes im going to tell them to leave as if I wanted slimmers world non cake eating friends I would go to slimmers world!

Oh my god I lost a biggish post :(

Hi all,

Sorry not been on. Have had a sick baby and homework to do. Have taken today. Which my tutor moaned about but tbh I don't care dd is more important. Doctors said she had yet another viral infection which was causing wheezing so we use the inhaler for her. Feels never ending just now so really fed up!

viks I'm surewoods is right about the mmr its not an actual virus so you should be fine. How you keeping?

memphis hope this isn't rude but how much is tumble tots?

mlisc glad the cast is off soon. How's he been with it?

cakes how have you been ruffling feathers?

melissa you must be shattered, let us know how dh gets on.

dh I'm in your gang R hasn't slept for 4 nights in a row I feel physically sick. Hope D's ok.

ph how's F? Did C enjoy school?

woods how's things your end?

wss you ok?

kk how was the business class? Was it last night?

trudy how was your weekend without dh? Are you keeping ok?

Hope I've not missed anyone.

stac you pay £21 a year which covers insurance, you get a t shirt they wear and a cd of the music they play, then it is £5.40 a week for one session payed in 6 week blocks so £32 every 6 weeks, it sounds expensive but he doesnt do anything else and he got a lot from it, he slept for 2.5 hours after your right about dd coming first bugger the tutor, its one day you can make the time up ffs!

It sounds good memphis I saw the advert on tv think I'll see if they have one here. R would love it and sil could do it with her before nursery. Yeah the tutor has been a bit rude to a few of the girls for having to stay off. She phoned one girl who was in hospital the week I started to say if she wasn't back the following week she was off the course. The girl signed herself out of hospital. Think she has a power trip!

eek that's not good of the tutor stac! of corse r has to come first.

vik, hope the MMR went well.

I think tumble tots sounds good - I used to do a similar class with the 3 year old I was an au pair for, and it was the highlight of the week! I have looked into it but there isn't one very near here, plus now I'm back at work there's not much time for activities .

Just been to our swimming lesson this morning. J seems to have really gone off swimming, all he wants to do is climb in and out of the pool. The class is meant to be for 1-2 year olds but most of them seem older (apparently they've all been doing the class together for ages) and so the class is tailored to them and not so good for J. grr.

J has opened a drawer and is pulling everything out. He has found my breast pump (with bottle attached) and is trying to drink from the breast cup bit!

Melissa J was fine without milk that night, slept through and woke at 6.30ish. He did have a lighter nappy than normal in the morning! He didn't have his normal daytime feed yesterday, so that's been two days of going down to two feeds per day. I don't really know if he's dropping it, it seems unlikely, but if he is, I won't be too bothered. It would be quite nice if he self-weaned about now, it would save me the bother of worrying when to stop/whether to keep going indefinitely!

You'll all be v pleases to hear the other day I managed to get a hair out the spot just by picking at it in the bath, it went down alot but I was sure I could see another hair in there. Then this morning after my shower I picked away the top layer again and got a huge hair out, it looked like a spiders leg. I'm now feeling v pleased with myself

Hoorray dh. Well done

stac Surely the tutor should know that a sick child is more important than a course? Hope she doesn't continue to give you a hard time.

Thanks for asking about my weekend. I made it, but I'm so glad DP is back. So is M, she hardly slept the whole time he was away. She likes life best if we're both around her all the fucking time so when he was away for several days, she was well confused.

I was absolutely exhausted by the end of it. I can't remember my last pregnancy being so exhausting. My mw suggested that surgical stockings might give me some energy Never knew that but I might give it a try. I've long given up on trying to retain dignity, nevermind looking decent or sexy.

M is well into walking now. She's still very wobbely, but practising ever so hard. Bless her.

I'm starting an antenatal course for second time mums tomorrow. 3 times, 3 hours. I'm mainly doing it to meet other mums with toddler and baby and because it's held at the birthing house that I'm hoping to give birth in.

M was meant to have some more jabs this week but she has a cold so I won't make DP take her.

The childminder thing is going really well and CM assures me that she's having a brilliant time as soon as I am out of side. It still worries me a bit that she cries when I go. Does anyone else's baby do that or are they all happily waving you off?

It's been very quiet on here, hasn't it, so I'm gonna try and get some more people posting: Meal plans. Has anybody got one, or at least some nice and easy ideas? I already stole viks lasagne idea and I also made a very nice vegetable gratin. Can't think of anything else now. So please ladies, inspire me. TIA.

Have a good day all.

trudyla the anti natel sounds good, hope you meet like minded mums! I obviously havent got a child I leave with a minder but thought I would say when I went to playschool I screamed so much (literally the whole 3 hours) that they said to take me out for 6 months and try again, I then started with a friend and still apparently cried every time my mum left everyday til I went to school, But in my head I was so happy there and cant remember being upset, I still see the playschool teacher from time to time and she still remembers me and still adore her, So she wont remember being upset, Im sure she will settle soon.
dh well done on hair, I wonder if there is something you can use to stop ingrown hairs?
stac nice to hear people think its a good idea to go Tumble Tots all of DH's family think im spoiling him! but I see it is educational, his sis just puts her kids in front of disney channel though! The tutor sounds like a jumped up witch!
Forgot to say we have booked ourselves in for a night away with sil and bil for her birthday at a local abbey for a medeval night, we have to dress up then we stay in the lovely rooms, they have baths in the actual room!...which are apparently haunted (the room not the bath)! You drink mead and wine from goblets and eat with your hands!

Trudy I think it's really really common for kids to cry when you say goodbye. J quite frequently bursts into tears when I say goodbye at nursery but apparently he's fine almost as soon as I've gone. My friend's little girl goes to the same nursery and J knows my friend really well, and she said that when she dropped her daughter off and said bye to both her and J, they both started crying... and then the other day I said bye to her daughter when I picked J up and she started crying! In the morning at nursery half the kids seem to be a bit tearful because they've just been dropped off, but they're all fine later on.

I don't say bye. I wait until he's distracted with breakfast and then sneak out. It's much less stressful for us both that way.

trudyla I dont remember being this tired with D either, it is hard work now i must admit. I also wait till he is distracted with something when i drop him off, but some days he wont let my put him down so i hand him over and leave with his cries ringing in my ears but i know that he will stop pretty much as soon as i leave. I know this because my mom used to cm from when i was around 11 and i have seen some mad changes in behavour in an instant, some kids flipped as soon as the parent turned up, they would turn into a different child it used to amaze me.
dh how i laughed at the spiders leg!!! Mmmmmmmm nice!! was it satisfiying.......i have issues!!
Right off i go to get D and do the nasty.......poor boy doesnt know whats coming!

Thanks for the reassurance about the childminder.

MLISC and viks I totally agree about sneaking off. But the CM always makes a big deal about saying goodbye. She says it's important for the child to know that I will be gone but that it will realise that I'll be back. This may well be true for older children, but I don't think M thinks that far yet, so I still try and sneak off, doesn't always work though.

trudyla just been speaking to my friend, she said she told her cm that she didnt want a fuss and she doesnt go in she knocks and passes the bag over and once they started doing that within a few days he didnt cry

I have heard some people say that if you don't say goodbye then the child will always be worrying that you're going to suddenly disappear. Hard to know what is best!

I've heard that too Woodlands. But as far as I'm concerned no matter how I leave them, they know I will come back, not because I say (or don't say) goodbye on the way out but because I always do come back. So I go for the least painful option.

I swear I don't know why I bother. Refused to let the boys have bscuits at a family member's house today so they didn't spoil their tea, only to come home and do them cottage pie and them refuse it anyway .

How'd you get on with the jabs vik?

It was v satisfying!
Memphis if there is something I'm going to use it from now on, exfoliating regularly helps.

D is currently yelling and literally throwing himself around, I'm not too sure why...