Feb 2010 - we're stroppy, sassy and splendid (and that's just the mums!)

[BigBadBear]

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Hi all,

Potty: She was liking her potty but she never went at regular times. Turns out it was insurance from her getting bad nappy rash as we brought it due to her having so much naked time. We left it in the US. With all the travelling etc. a lot of things we've not bothered with including this, dummy removal and bed (we're pondering trying to get her into a bed before Nigel arrived)

words: I haven't counted but she has a few. Like scones she says the first half of words mouth is mmmmaa and nose is nooo. She understands an awful lot and is generally a quiet baby, I think shell be a relatively slow talker but within normal

sleep: we either have great night or great naps atm. I've ordered a video monitor as I'm fed up of never knowing if she's asleep or not or if she had even indeed napped.

food: she snacks and eats a lot in the mornings. I struggle around 4 especially if she hasn't had lunch yet as whether to give her something or not. We gave her dinner at lunch and while she ate some/more of it than otherwise but still not as much as a peanut butter sandwich. Once I've worked out what she's doing with naps I think I want to try left over dinner before nap and sandwich after. Otherwise she has breakfast (1.5 weetabix or a good deal or oats), a slice of toast about an hour later, then whatever she can beg of the siblings when they get up . Banana after morning nap, and another serving of fruit somewhere. Since I don't give her milk I am happy to give yogurt regardless in the evenings. She's been having a biscuit or two lately as well as I need to eat them!!

BC keeping all things crossed for you

mous hopefully he won't repeat his mistake. DD had her first taste of wine yesterday but I've given all my family members a let off one time free pass. DD having the fresh coffee really scared my mothers husband and he's now really good at tidying and being quiet (a man with a tail inbetween his legs that's for sure)

We could potentially have some keys to a flat on Sat. Be not being there might hold up on things getting signed but . Rent is staggering 895pounds a month!

thanks BBB had blood retaken this morning, so should get the jab on Fri. Won't be a check-up though, need to arrange one in 3 weeks time

mous phew nothing happen and at your DH

No words explosion over here. Over the last week bye has appeared but DS is perfecting his own language.

bc yepee that's great news. FX

IC she won't starve. your meals sounds great.

my daughter has just eaten pasta (and quite a bit of it)!!! Don't know if it's just a random thing or that lunch and nap happened at perfect times. She also ate pine nuts but spat out the spinach. Now she has peach before I give her yogurt

Interesting to hear about the words - and the meals!

Our current routine is:
06.00-07.00ish - wake up, snuggly BF with Mummy, nappy change, get dressed
07.00-08.00ish - breakfast with Mummy (cereal with milk and dried fruit, sometimes a piece of toast too)
10.00 - piece of fruit (usually half an apple in peeled segments)
09.30-11.30ish - nappy change then run in the park/see friends/toddler group etc.
11.45-12.30ish - lunch (pasta or gnocchi or soup and bread etc. etc.)
12.30-12.50 - nappy change, stories, in buggy for nap
13.00 - 14.40ish - nap
15.30 - nappy change then out for a run in the park/other activity
16.00 - small snack - piece of fruit or mini rice-cake
17.45 - supper with Mummy and Daddy (a modified version of whatever we're having usually)
18.30 - bath (usually with Daddy) and pre-bedtime playtime, stories etc.
19.40 - toys away, into sleeping bag, final snuggle and BF with Mummy
20.00 - in cot, lights out

What's everyone else doing nowadays, out of curiosity?

Supper tonight was home-made tomato and quinoa soup served with cheese on toast - after a slow start, DD ate it with reasonable enthusiasm, even having a couple of spoons of the soup on its own after she'd finished her "croutons". I'm pretty chuffed about this as tomato has not been a flavour she's been that interested in thus far and usually has to be heavily disguised

In fact it's been a pretty successful day all round as DD also didn't scream during her hair wash for the first time in a while - she didn't enjoy it, but she kept calm throughout, which is a definite step in the right direction.
Ah, the small things that can light up the life of a parent

IC For last comment see previous post

ahhh a routine would involve knowing what time she sleeps or wakes up each day also I think we'll still have some dust settling when we move. A perfect day would go something like this:

6:00 - get up, in bed with me until I admit she's awake and get up (~15mins). Nappy change kill another 10 mins until breakfast
7:15 - make my toast, let her steal some (I cut it into quarters so she can't steal too much in one go, she always go for my marmite ones!!)
8:00 - Go upstairs, clean teeth, faces, get dressed (both of us) then a bit more play
8:30 - nappy change, put down for 2 hours (but she takes about 45 mins to go sleep)
10:30 - nappy change, banana

At some other point put down for another 2 hours latest being 14:30. Depending on time of nap whether she is offered lunch before or after nap. This also determines when she gets a snack, if lunch was early then snack around 16:00. She normally needs something on waking

If she doesn't nap well she will be put down again late in the day. While she doesn't sleep, she will often lie there and get a mini rest for up to 45mins. I aim for her to out or doing a physical session either before or after nap but once a day. If we're not going out then I take her to the park for a bit.

18:15 - start cooking dinner
18:45 - eat, put away toys
19:15 - bath and teeth
19:30 - bed (again she takes at least 30 mins to go to sleep normally)

Sounds like dd2 likes her sleep - has shorter awake hours than your two PA and IC. She's usually up at 7, nappy change and get dressed, breakfast towards 8. Often no snack in the morning unless we go shopping and she demands a chunk of bread (which I then buy, obviously! ). Lunch is quite early at 11.30ish. Any later than that we are in tantrum zone. She is desperate for her bed at 12 and chats a bit before sleeping until between 2 and 3. Nappy change is either before or after her nap (and any times she does a poo - if no poo that day she may only have two nappies all day ) We have an afternoon snack around 3ish, followed by dinner at between 5 and 5.30. She is then again keen to get into pyjamas by 6, with or without a bath, and is often asleep by 6.30.

in reusuables I change her A LOT more than I did when she was in disposables for those 6 weeks.

atm if she wakes closer to 7 we have a very tired day with her having one nap but spending most of the time needing to sleep but unable to. Figure we're possible back in transition to one nap which was interrupted by the road trip.

Last couple of nights DS has slept through but woken before 6 - nothing works to resettle him. I wish he's start waking at 2 or 3 for 20 mins again so at least he would sleep until 6.30 or 7.

I guess our routine is something like this:

6am-ish Wake up - come into bed with mummy and daddy - have BF.
6.30 nappy change.
6.40 come downstairs.
7.00 breakfast - toast and peanut butter, grapes, petit filous.
7.30 get dressed and teeth cleaned (I have a shower later when DH gets up).
8.00 mummy has cup of tea and pisses about on the internet for half an hour.
8.30 play with toys or read books or draw with crayons.
9.00 go out somewhere - one o'clock club or park or to friends.
11.30 - Lunch.
12.00 - 2.00 nap. (we have our lunch and maybe a lie down or i cook stuff to freeze).
2-5 go out again. maybe to the horniman or just to the shops and then the park or the woods or something.
5-6.30 cbeebiees and dinner
6.30 - 7 bath
7 - 7.30 read stories and have boob in my bed
7.30 - 7.45 settle in cot

He has snacks at about 10 and about 3 if itsb just us. If we go round to friends or have people over there are usually bowls of rice cakes, fruit, cheesey puffs etc for the toddlers to graze on left around.

A settled night for her (though not me) but a 5:30 get up, at least this means I know for sure it should be a 2 nap today. she's asleep from I when put her down at 8.

Holidays routine

let's say 6 am start. milk breakfast (often refused and replaced by snacking later) my COFFEE absolutely no disturbance allowed. DDs run free, and know not to disturb the monster.
7h shower baby and me together
house chores (or MN)
8h30/9h ready to go out (shopping/park/playgroup....)
11h30/12h lunch
12h30 nap (30 min to max 2h)
14h milk and cuddle, then straight back outside if not too hot, otherwise delays till 15h30 (snack time), usually park for 2 h
17h30/18h diner
18h30 bath both DDs
free play, if DH here over excited play
20h bed and straight asleep

for changing: often. DD2 has been asking to sit on the toilet with no nappy for a week now (nothing happened yet). She does tell me if there is a poo and from today a pee and wants her nappy removed at once... so I might be on my way to early potty training
She is copying everything we do at the moment and recognised herself in the mirror.

it is almost 14h and she is up

Loving these routines!

mous dd2 started last week to put both her hands on her front nappy bit and if I ask her if she is doing 'pipi' she'll give a sly grin and nod. She also comes to me to tell me she has done a poo (for which she likes to quietly stand in a corner) and wants it removed immediately.
Definitely some awareness there but at the point of it happening rather than before she needs to go.... I have no plans to do any toilet training until she's at least 2.

Phew I am EXHAUSTED from a morning at the park in the wrong clothes! I put on summer clothes this morning, hung the washing out and decided it was too cold for them, changed into thick maternity jeans and a top, left for the park and hey presto - it's been a hot, muggy day here. Ugh all my clothes were soaked through with sweat when I got in [yeeuch]

Great fun in the park, they have been holding play days every wednesday this summer but this is the first time I've even heard about it Loads for the LOs to do. DD spent most of the time happily playing with earth Of course she ate some, made a disgusted face and then promptly ate some more.

She's napping now (thank goodness I'm bushed) but it is VERY late for her to be napping. Usuallly

6.45-7.30 wake (DH's responsibility until 7.30!)
7.30-8ish breakfast - bananas at the moment
9ish nap 1 hour usually
10ish get dressed (we are pretty relaxed here!)
11ish head out for a short trip - local shops usually to get a paper
12pm lunch
1pm nap - anything from 1 to 2 hours (oh happy days)
2-3ish head out for afternoon
5pm tea
6pm bath
6.30-7pm bed (and RELAX)

I did think she was transitioning to one nap but seems to have gone back to two for the time being - good - I like the morning nap She didn't have one this morning but then had a meltdown about 10am so she does still need one.

Our routine is

6.40am Up with nappy change and getting dress (7am at weekends if I'm lucky)
6.50am pre breakfast snack (cereals bar) while playing
7.10am out and in the car
7.30am start nursery
8.00am breakfast (cereals, milk and toast)
10.30am snack (fruits or bread / cheese)
12pm lunch
12.30pm - 1.30pm nap - he sleeps anything between 40mn and 1 hour
4pm I pick him up
4.15pm gouter (snack) yogurt and biscuit
5.00pm bath
5.20pm out of the bath and put into sleepsuit and night nappy
then play
5.40pm dinner
6pm to 6.30pm bedtime - with a bottle

He has 2 nappy changes at nursery when home; at the weekend the nappy will be change at wake up, 11am ish, 3pm ish and 5pm.

It's so interesting to see how everyone's structuring their day! I must say Scones, I don't miss the morning/afternoon nap as it used to feel rather restrictive - also, I often had to wake DD up from the morning one to ensure she could fit in the afternoon one before bedtime (and she would have to be woken after that one too). Now she can sleep for as long as she likes (today almost 2.5 hours again ) and I don't worry if she has a lie-in in the morning either.....(usually only happens after a broken night, though). I thought the transition to one nap would be tricky, but actually it's been fine. DD - as BG noted - doesn't need as much sleep as some (10-11 hours per night max) and seems to hold it together for a long time between sleeps now.

Supper was interesting tonight. I made us all broccoli pancakes stuffed with chopped veg (onion, courgette, red pepper, tomato, garlic) and grated cheese. DD initially made a big protest and when she eventually did try some of hers, made a big deal of spitting it out or trying to pick out every single piece of vegetable matter she could see. She was pushing the plate away and having a melt-down, so we took her food away and said "Not hungry?" which gave rise to even more crying and reaching to get out of her chair.
I calmly got her out and let her sit on my knee while I continued with my meal, whereupon she tucked into her own with enthusiasm, ate every scrap, then ate half the pancake left on my plate, shouting "mas, mas!" (more) and was even scooping up the little bits of veg once all the pancake was consumed.
Contrary, DD??! Oh no!!

BC Congratulations! Hope you are feeling well.

Love reading the routines! Here is DDs...

6.10am Wake, nappy change.
-watch Thomas the Tank Engine in bed with mummy and 3oz bottle.

7.15am Either Shreddies/1.5 Weetabix/Porridge and some fruit or toast
9.30am Snack and drink
11.45-12pm Lunch
12.30pm - 2.15pm asleep
2.30pm Snack and drink
5pm Tea
6.30pm Bath
7pm 7oz bottle, 4 books and bed!

Since CC still no settling/ fussing now EVER - happy to be left!! It still seems weird to walk out of her room and not hear her yell in protest...

my bloods have to be retaken again, except there is no way for the results to come through in time.

Fab, LBH - enjoy the well-deserved Zs you're finally getting...

...speaking of which, DD woke just before 01.00 last night and didn't get back off until shortly before 03.00. Initially she was hot and thirsty, so cue change into lighter sleeping bag and lots of glugging of water and several attempts to get her to settle back in her cot until she finally did....
...then woke up a bit cold at 05.45, DH went in and resettled her with a folded muslin over her and she slept for another hour, waking this time soaking wet - presumably because all that water she'd drunk during the night had overwhelmed her nappy. Joy!

Aside from the temp changes, we're wondering if the super-long nap contributed to her inability to resettle quickly - we noticed something similar happened a few days ago after another 2hr+ nap... If it happens again I shall consider 3x too much of a coincidence and start getting her up a bit earlier in the afternoons.
DH suggested we put her to bed later when she has a long nap, but given that she already doesn't go to sleep until 20.00, I think I've reached my limit for bedtime....

That's a bit rubbish, PA - good luck sorting it out...

IC That was exactly the "pattern" DD was following until the CC. Even 8pm bed times or later.

I think DD had got used to waking up TBH. We did all the change of bags,drink etc. etc. Calpol just in case.

I dont let her sleep in the day later than 2.15pm either.

Meant to say hope you are ok PA

Well, we're now past 2 hours for today's nap, so we shall see what tonight brings!
To be fair, DD now sleeps through more than she doesn't, but we get these intermittent night-wakings every few days.
I may do CC when I decide to drop BF altogether, if necessary. At the moment, every time I get to the point where I think, "right, time to do CC" DD then sleeps through for the next 5 or 6 days....!
DD hasn't done more than 11 hours overnight since she's been born and it's usually closer to 10/10.5. She rarely protests when she goes down for the night (maybe once or twice in four weeks) and usually gets off to sleep within a few minutes at bedtime.
A bit hit or miss, really - and impossible to predict!

On reflection, if we continue having problems, I may bring lunchtime forward again and DD down for her lunchtime nap by 12.30.....
Anyway, we shall see

Tell me about it!! She was hit or miss too, hence why we kept putting it off.

I have brought lunch forward too as she is knackered by 12.30pm. It is a doddle putting her down for her afternoon nap now! And her mood is really lovely in the afternoon. :)

She has an obsession with Thomas the Tank Engine...gets upset when it finishes. Sky + series link done. :)

I may follow your example with the CC in that case, LBH - although the occasional broken nights aren't hugely disruptive atm....