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Feb 2010 - we're stroppy, sassy and splendid (and that's just the mums!)

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BigBadBear · 23/07/2011 15:46

New thread!

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BigBadBear · 23/07/2011 15:47

The last thread is at 1,001 messages and won't let me post, so I've started a new one. I've put a link on our FB group so hope you all find me here!

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LittlebearH · 23/07/2011 17:41

Love the title BBB

StoneBaby · 23/07/2011 18:39

Great title BBB just marking my space.

bc we use Bumgenius (I think PA does too). They do the job for us, all in one and one size. Is there any nappy advisor around you? (I found one in Guernsey using the lolipop website

BigBadBear · 23/07/2011 19:27

Phew, glad i'm not alone here. Great news awaited my arrival back from a wedding-dd2 appears to have started walking! She's gone from cruising to staggering unsteadily but very proudly behind a push along walker.

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StoneBaby · 23/07/2011 19:30

Such a great news BBB she was just a slow goes but be ready to run after her now Grin

I may have another reason for our bad nights, DS has got a 2nd canine out.

LittlebearH · 23/07/2011 20:07

BBB Your DD2 probably crawled around very fast and happily so didnt feel the need to start walking. My friends DD is happy to sit for ages then all of a sudden she is off. My DD is opposite, always frustrated and never has stayed still.

SB DD has top and bottom molars half way through no canines yet oddly, may explain the fact she is all over the place plus sleep regression....gah who knows..

DP and I cannot beleive the change in DD at the moment. She gets very cross, is desperately trying to tell us stuff and is super clingy. She points at what she wants, grabs us by the hand to show us things or what she wants to do.

She took an hour to settle for lunch nap today and she is laying in her cot awake (but not crying which is really odd) banging her bars and babbling in a whingy tone.) She has only slept for an hour this afternoon too as she didnt fall asleep until 1.30pm. (since cutting morning nap she is asleep by 12.30pm)

Has eaten well today - yay! I spent an hour making daal (felt chuffed) for the 1st time, made myself late for councellor and she hated it.....

Sorry for long post, had 3 bacardis to perk myself up.......

InmaculadaConcepcion · 23/07/2011 21:07

Well done, BBB, love the title! I knew we were close to filling the previous thread, but forgot to check - I'm glad you took the initiative!

Yes, the canines usually come through after all four pre-molars are through, LBH - although, as with everything, it can vary according to the child. I'm glad your DD ate well, even if she did reject your daal (I hope you enjoy it, though). I hope the counselling went okay - once you got there.

Great news on the walking, BBB!

Yup, canines caused us some seriously crap nights, SB, that could well be another reason.

We've now hit serious tantrum time when we try to wash DD's hair. She really fights it. She can be pretty willful about teeth-brushing too (if we try to intervene). Did I mention her stroppiness and frustration over eating/using cutlery? And of course the post-nap crankiness....
Other than all that, she's a delight Smile

LittlebearH · 23/07/2011 21:12

Same here IC adds nappy change,car seat,getting dressed,shoes on,supermarket trolley!!!

Right little diva. Even DP got frustrated today.

Councelling was ok, more tears. I am a perfectionist apparently....nothing I do is even close to perfect though. Hmm

chinook · 23/07/2011 21:42

Hello everyone

Sorry it has been so long, I am just at the end of my 2 week working frenzy. Have 4 weeks off to recover in now Grin.

Thanks to all who wondered how I was and to BBB for her wave down the A23 . Really delighted that your dd is walking now.

bc thanks for the lentil recipe you posted ages ago. It is right up my street and I intend to try it this week. You are right about Norway. We have friends there too and it has always seemed an enviably nice place to live. Have just seen the news about Amy Winehouse too. Not exactly a surprise, but still shocking.

IC are you enjoying life back in the UK? Are you living in the same area you lived in before you moved to Madrid? We always use a 1.0 tog sleeping bag at the moment but vary what goes underneath. Tonight is quite warm so just a long sleeved pj top and a nappy. The upstairs in our house is quite warm though, usually at 21/22 degrees.

PA and scones how many weeks along are you?

stan congrats on Atticus. Sorry you had such a horrendous experience after the birth, but am bloody impressed how you have bounced back!

bethy that headmaster is clearly a t**t......

Not much to report really. Dd has just finished her first year at school and bought home a glowing report saying she is a lovely little girl and a clever one at that (chip off the old block obviously). Shame then that she has spent the 3 days since she broke up being a right little madam.....Ds is still utterly gorgeous and entertaining. He sleeps through most nights but wakes up somewhere between 5 and 6 and won't go back to sleep despite being obviously tired. He has started to jump and loves the trampoline we have in the garden. He is also obsessed with those toy cars/trains which move under their own momentum. We have a stone floor in the kitchen and they race along at great speed to his delight. He also had his first haircut this week and he looks much older without his long fluffy bits. I was also a bit cross that it cost £10 to cut an 18 month old's hair.

LBH sorry you have been finding things tough but it sounds like counselling will be a positive step. Motherhood must be really stressful if you are plagued by 'What if's'. I am currently obsessed with the idea that if anything was to happen to me now, ds would have no memories of me at all, and dd only very vague ones.

Please feel free to ignore me here, but all those who are having sleeping issues, please try not to get too stressed by them. I speak as someone whose ds only slept through about 6 weeks ago so I have been in your shoes. I think that as your dc have all slept through at some point there must be some factor, like teething, affecting them. They are also still incredibly young and may just need a little reassurance in the night that you are there. And remember that golden rule of parenting 'This too shall pass'. What worked for us in the end was me moving into the spare room (to remove the bf association), and dp staying with ds all night (his cot is still in our bedroom). He wouldn't pick up ds when he cried just sshhhh him and tell him to lie down. At first he was next to the cot but moved to the other side of the room over a few nights and that was that.

Well I have waffled on for far too long, and my ironing pile has not been touched yet again. Sweet dreams to all.

PenguinArmy · 24/07/2011 00:25

actually I think the title does sum me up Blush

PenguinArmy · 24/07/2011 02:39

chinook your DD's sleep sounds like mine. Obviously tired from the moment she wakes but won't go back off again. Not quite tantrums but definetely stroppy moments I feel guilty for leaving her crying but at the same time knowing she needs to learn that there are some limits. There is a lot of 'no throwing, no kicking' happening at the moment. At least there is a clear difference between 'I want that' cry and proper distress. We are also past the stage of being happy walking everywhere. Now we want to pick up anthing from the ground and do sit down protests if we are not allowed off path or in the opposite direction. At the moment she can be distracted by a quick pick up and run. I will look into some reins when in the UK as I don't want her in the buggy all the time just because it's easier (she deserves to walk around) but with Nigel I won't have the time I do now.

I'm 28 weeks today I believe

bethy I believe I forgot to say what I thought of that HT, but yes he sounds like a prize twat. Know how it feels, good luck for future in working/finding out what happens.

We are now back into high 20's a nice more manageable temperature. DD will need new shoes, if anyone found anywhere int he UK. She is now 6-9 months which is UK size 2 I believe. I'll look around here when we get back as well but am not hopeful. All the gravel paths have taken a beaten of her shoes and we got her ones just before we left. In less than two weeks we'll back in the UK Shock

(sorry that was largely about me/us again)

LBH hugs and remember if you don't connect with her then get another one.

PenguinArmy · 24/07/2011 02:42

sorry chinook your DS Blush

also teeth brushing I don't think is very good here. We can't get to her top ones, but it's on the list of things to sort out in the UK.

Bearcrumble · 24/07/2011 11:20

We're off on a boat trip today - one of the magazines that Joe writes for invited us, down the Thames on a paddle steamer with a band www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/the-suns-going-shine-our-boat-trip-sunday. I'm really looking forward to it. DS is napping now so he should be in a good temper for the afternoon.

He woke up for about two hours yesterday - pretty soon after we put him down for the night. He was really screaming and inconsolable so in the end I bought him downstairs and he sat on DH's lap for a bit and then I took him upstairs again, gave him a feed in my bed and he went down without complaint until 6.30.

I think he was overtired because he didn't go down until nearly 8 and didn't sleep much in the day. We were late because we wanted to all eat together - going to take food for him with us today so just bath and bed when we get back from central London.

Chinook Well done your DD on her school report.

LBH Hope the Bacardis did the trick and that your DD had a better night last night. Your DD's behaviour definitely ticks all the boxes for a developmental leap.

StoneBaby · 24/07/2011 17:08

We had a lovely day in Herm. It was nice to be off island. Now DH is supervising bath time while i'm cooking DS dinner - courgettes fritter from the garden.

bc I hope you had a fab afternoon. The overtiredness is worth than any thing for night sleep, that why O'm a pain regarding DS nap! He had one on Shell Beach today and has been in a great mood this afternoon.

Waves

SocietyClowns · 24/07/2011 18:54

[waves]

StoneBaby · 24/07/2011 19:07

Hi soc

InmaculadaConcepcion · 24/07/2011 19:09

Hey, chinook - good to hear from you! Hoorah for your DS now sleeping through (bummer about the early wake-ups, though).
Thanks for the thoughts about night time temperatures. DD was in a 2.5tog last night - that plus a sleepysuit - and she slept through until shortly after 05.00. I took her in bed with us, but she was such a fidget, that I got fed up and put her back in her cot with a hand on her to keep her still. It did the trick and she fell back to sleep until just before 07.00, which was much more acceptable. I think I'll use that technique from now on when she wakes up (after checking she's not too hot/cold etc.)

Actually, the more I talk to parents of babies and toddlers, the more I think "good" sleepers are more the exception than the rule. Based purely on anecdotal evidence, of course!

Ah, LBH, no wonder you're so exhausted by your DD sometimes...! Who wouldn't be? It will indeed pass.
It's probably a good sign that you're able to shed tears in the counselling. It suggests your counsellor is correctly diagnosing the difficulties you're dealing with - never easy when it's the emotional baggage you're carrying. Good luck, we're all rooting for you.

PA those little rucksacks with a "lead" look like a good idea. A friend of ours has one and her daughter seemed quite happy wearing it.
When you get back to the UK, take your DD to Clarks and get her feet measured - they may be bigger than you think. But yes, I have a feeling finding shoes less than size 3 is likely to be tricky...

Bc how was the boat trip? What a fun thing to do!

I'm glad you enjoyed Herm, SB.

I've been enjoying some adult company today (two friends came for lunch, which we timed to coincide with DD's nap - she obliged, fortunately) and having DH around to spend time with DD. He had to spend yesterday on a work-related trip, so I was sole carer. I'm impressed with those of you who do it for long stretches....

InmaculadaConcepcion · 24/07/2011 19:09

Smile Soc

BabyGiraffes · 24/07/2011 20:47

[Waving again as BG... felt like going back in time]
We are on our last long weekend in the Midlands Sad. 'Last' because we're renting out the house soon and 'last long' because with dd1 starting school we won't get the chance to go away for a long weekend...
dd2 is also in a stroppy phase. I try to be patient because she's been exposed to chicken pox in a big way several times and I am on high spot spotting alert (she'd better break out in spots to explain away her behaviour!!). I wrote down the words she uses frequently last week and it was quite a list. In the last few days she's got by with only two though: 'No' and 'Mine!' What else does a toddler need?? Grin

SconesForTea · 25/07/2011 09:31

Hi to BG you're back! Smile DD has mainly been saying "more" and "me" when pointing at whatever we're eating (even if she has the exact same thing on her plate....) I'm afraid we find it cute and tend to give her what she's asking for.

Bc on the last thread you asked about cloth nappies, I've used Motherease and Tots Bots Fluffles from the word go, but both use a separate outer cover so are a bit more faff than yours sound. We've just got some all-in-one reusables so that when we give her to babysitters etc we don't have to use disposables. I must say they are so quick and easy! But harder to get dry, I've found. How are you getting on with yours?

Thankfully DD's sleep seems to be improving After a resettle, nappy change and ibuprofen at 1.30 last night (taking no chances!) she slept through until 6.30 - ah bliss. Not counting any chickens, but keeping fingers firmly crossed. I know TTSP, chinook, but when you are desperate for sleep for the umpteenth night running it's hard to keep perspective (and you must know as you've been there!).

SB glad your little man's sleeping better too.

BBB that is fab news on the walking Grin

LBH I hope the counselling is going well. It is bound to make you feel worse before it makes you feel better, as all the emotional stuff you've buried is brought to the surface. Keep at it, and good luck.

IC we find it really hard to decide what to dress DD in at night too. She goes down at 6.30 when the sun (when it's out Hmm) is still shining in her bedroom, but of course it's much much colder in the middle of the night. Currently we're using a babygrow (no vest) and 1 tog sleeping bag.

Right DD has just woken up and I need another wee Hmm so got to run. Big wave to all sorry to anyone I've missed

Bearcrumble · 25/07/2011 15:11

The boat trip was really good fun, there was another toddler there just 5 days younger than DS so they played together a bit. Tower Bridge opened for us! I wish I'd taken reins, because there were quite big gaps at the bottom of the bars round the edge of the deck and we had to run after him or insist on hand holding all the time.

Scones and others with cloth nappy advice - thank you all. The tots bots easy fit haven't arrived yet but I'll let you know how we get on. Should I wash them a few times before I use them to make them more absorbent?

BBB Brilliant that DD2 is up and walking.

My medieval dress for Camp Bestival arrived today. It is great and fits really well. I might dress DS up in his stuff and do some photos in the garden later on. Will post them on FB if we get round to it.

Just booked tickets for In The Night Garden live for the week after next in Richmond deer park.

PenguinArmy · 25/07/2011 17:49

scones I've just looked at your fb, you are sooooo beautiful

We do indeed have the bumgenius but so late in the game I'd probably go for a more sized one (they're a a size fits all). It's all trial and error anyway depending on your DCs size and shape.

Anyone else feel like naps are a double edged sword. It's nice to have up to an hour (sometimes a heavenly 2 hours) but it takes that long to get them off at times. It's fine because Nigel will like sleeping.

Bear I'm excited for you regarding Bestival.

PenguinArmy · 25/07/2011 17:50

and IC your schedule sounded knackering to me, if not worse than our road trip as that's continuous and not jam packed (although only a few days left)

StoneBaby · 25/07/2011 18:44

bc they do recommend to wash them several times before the 1st use - I think I did mine 3 times. It apparently help absorbency.

Pa I'm sure Nigel will sleep fine! Smile

PenguinArmy · 26/07/2011 04:52

me again Blush

just killing some time. Thought I'd been a bit negative about DD so wanted to share the fact that she's loving kisses and cuddles. Kisses are often accompanied with mwah and are also given freely to her toy dog (she loves dogs) as well as pictures of animals she recongises. Cuddles are normally accompanied by awwww and are given to us as well her toys and roo. She has a new dummy which has a picture of a cat on it so today that was getting cuddles as well HmmGrin

hope all your babies are sleeping wonderfully