July 2010: the "a ffffew more birthdays, a ffffew more walking but are they all sleeping? Are they ffffeck!" one

[CakeandRoses]

It might be a shorter birth trudyla as don't a lot of people have a shorter labour second time . So she wouldn't be with someone else for too long hopefully. Things might change a lot between now and the birth too.

stac group sounds like a good idea

G usually goes to sleep in cot with curtains drawn, curtains aren't that thick though. Sometime she ends up sleeping in pram or car on the way to getting A from pre-school.

No more puking from G, she is still asleep (6am), I am up with A.

I agree with mlic I worry about when we have number two that I would be in the delivery suite for 2.5 days again where L wouldnt be able to venture, but under no circumstances would I not have dh with me, he wouldn be able to cry 24/7 and if he did I wouldnt be there to hear him.
I remember I think it was mlic saying a while ago that she was sure E wouldnt remember now a time before W was here, M wont remember a time without her brother within a couple of months. Hopefully over time with other people she will relax a bit and it wont be a worry for you, how long were you in hospital when having M?

L is now in bed, still not asleep, ive got a pizza in the oven, and I plan on getting stuff on e bay but I bet I dont get round to do it when I have pizza, ice cream and starmix to eat!

memphis we like Heidi for a girl, not sure on Benaiah myself just cos of the amount of Benjamins around, I know 5 baby Bens...

trudy fwiw I'd never left L for any amount of time, it had always been the two of us like two peas in a pod. When I had S I was in hospital for 4.5 days and it was a HUGE shock to her. She totally went off my mum who'd been looking after her and refused to acknowledge S for the first 3 months of his life. She was very clingy for a couple of weeks afterwards too. BUT, and it's a big BUT, she doesn't remember any of that now, I'm sure. I'd never have asked DH to stay at home to watch her, I'd never do that to either of us. L and S are good friends, L is still just as loving to me and loves her grandma again too It may well affect her for a while but imo (and it is just imo) in less than a year's time she won't remember it at all whereas you and dp will remember it forever.

Enjoy the cinema mlic, I've not been for years and years

Post more in a mo, laptop's about to die

The group sounds good Stac - hope it helps you.

I have always wanted to be a bit flexible with naps so as to avoid having to be in at the same time every day or whatever. To be honest I have to admit that J generally sleeps on me on the sofa for one of his naps each day - it gives me a chance to put my feet up and MN, and it's much quicker than the hour or so it often takes for J to go off in his cot. If for example it's already 9am and we have to go out somewhere at 9.45, it just means it's a quick way to get him off. Not ideal, I know. At nursery he has to sleep on a mat on the floor with crying children/loads off other noise, so I'm quite glad he doesn't insist on sleeping only in a quiet room.

J was very brave when he had his jabs today. I ummed and ahhed but did eventually get the boosters and the MMR done all at once today. The nurse was happy to do it either way, but this way at least it's all over and done with, and the MMR is the only new thing he's having (he didn't react to previous jabs) and that would have been given alongside the other jab anyway. He's been a bit grumpy this afternoon but that could be the heat. Like memphis's L, he didn't really eat much tea but never mind. His jabs were in his arms too.

Hi,
had loads to say and now forgotten it all. Watched supernanny tonight and it scared the shite out of me, how do u avoid a fussy eater or a very angry tantrum thrower?? I am in the process of getting D into the habit of a longer nap in the afternoon rather than in the morning now, I kept him awake on monday all morning till just after lunch and he slept for two hours till 2.15 when i had to wake him! I never let him have more than two hours a day as im sure it affects his night time sleep. I have the wooden/plastic shelving unit from ikea, i use it in D's room for stuff but id like some more for toys for downstairs, they are well worth the dosh imo.
trudy fwiw i feel exactly the same about D, i feel like he will be left sat in the corner whilst i deal with newbaby, i feel really bad for him that he wont understand and i feel worried that his behavour will be affected by it and i'll have to go on supernanny! im also worried that i wont cope etc etc so i was relieved that u feel the same, i suppose its just natural.
I also hate work atm, its just so full on and busy but boring at the same time, i know that sounds weird but it just doesnt interest me any longer.
i havent posted for ages but im defo reading with interest.
tsc hows things?
cake pirate ship sounds cool!!
mylife my dh is in education and ur right morale is LOW and theres another round of redundencies in sept so no one feels safe, it sucks.
Hope babies and momas have better nights tonight, it feels a bit cooler tonight and is set to go down hill tomorrow they say so heres hoping lo's will settle down.

stac the group sounds great. I hope you find it helpful.

We put B in her cot with the blind shut for naps she generally has one at 9am for 1-2 hours and then at 2 for 2-3 hours and she is a proper grump if she misses either of them.

Memphis and woodlands how are your little ones feeling now after there jabs? I'm not looking forward to having B's done.

tsc how are you feeling today?

woodlands I think L would have been better with his jabs if they were in his arms, he hates being lay down and his arms restricted, plus our nurse does one...waits for crying to stop...then does next then waits rather than boom boom boom one after another, L cheered up this evening but his legs where they did jabs are sore and apart from that I think it is heat and teeth related!
mlic shame about the film, I really want to see it, Im impressed with myself for remembering it was you, I have terrible memory normally!, When/if we have another I would want my mum there so would need to have a lots of people on standby in case it lasted for days again!
viksam dont watch her! she is very odd, supernanny grates on me, she sometimes has a really posh voice then sometimes sounds like a fishwife. when is your 20 weeks scan, are you finding out what your having?

Been so bored tonight, ive cleaned ready for dh's return, and the girls coming over before we go out friday and ive sorted out a huge box of stuff and started putting stuff on e bay all ive got to do now is about 4 hours of ironing! I keep putting it off but I was thinking of sending L's with him to my mums but they are taking my sis to have her eyes lasered tomorrow, every week I iron I throw away at least one item of mine to save me ironing it making excuses why it needs throwing, I charity shopped a new shirt the other day as when I took it out the washer it looked like too much effort to iron!!

Better night last night - L slept until 6am, but not looking so good tonight (am up with him now) He saw his ent consultant today and suprise suprise, he has another infection & perforation. She is going to put gromits in, and it could be as sion as end-Aug! She actually apologised that can't do it sooner, but she's going on holiday

Work is pants as had no pay rise in our area for 6 years. The co we now work for (an outsourcer - previous employer lost contract and we were transfered to company who won the contract) thinks we're paid too much and has finally released the pay grades they think we should be on. I'll be retiring by the time I get a payrise! The figures are ridiculous and people are walking out as they're fed up now, after 4 yrs with this compaby

Company even! We are constantly (at least once a year) going thru restructures and redundancies with 3/4 of the team fine in 3 years (not including recent resignations but they're about half of remaining team). Doesn't help that my lunch break is spent expressing so I'm not getting the retail therapy I'd hoped.

Right enough of this self indulgence!

Cake, hope you've had an ok few days back at work properly.

mlic shame u didn't get to cinema but sounds like a nice evening.

stac pain that you have to.wait for the group but sounds good

trud I would want dh there too, but wld also gave worry about E if sage hadn't been older. Hope leaving her with other people works out ok and you will be.happier to leave.her with.someone when the time comes

Memp and others who's.Lo's have had jabs, hope they're feeling better soon and don't have too bad a night. L had v high temp 3-4 days after his mmr, and was v whingey, but cld have been his ears :)

Sorry after all that I can't remember what else I wanted to say!

melissa hopefully grommets will change everything, L's friends who've had them have been different children. That's awful re work, I hate the way employers don't realise that morale is so important - everyone just seems to expect people to work regardless of the conditions.

memphis serves you right for buying a shirt that needs ironing in the first place

mlic sucks about the film times, hope you get to see it another time.

stac that group does sound good, hope you make friends from it.

viks I'm not sure there's much you can do about fussy children/tantrumers, L has tantrums in the house but is generally speaking very well behaved in public. I reckon most of it is luck with what personality you happen to get!

Morning nap is reinstated as of today, 05.45 for both of them. L's not napped for the last 2 days either so they're both running on fumes. S just doesn't seem to be affected by later bedtimes or fewer naps so I'm not going to put myself through the aggro of keeping him awake. Not.happy.

Melissa no wonder work is not enjoyable at the moment. Do you enjoy the job you do? Is it just the employers that make it so crap?

chulita sorry that dropping the naps didn't work :(

viksam I agree there is not much you can do about tantrums. They're kind of a frustration thing when toddlers can't communicate properly. You just have to be calm and ride them out ime. (Which is much easier said than done) don't get angry yourself that only seems to inflame the situation and don't give in to demands made by tantrums if you do then they will tantrums all the time to get what they want rather than out of frustration iyswim. But remember tantrums are only a small part of toddler's behaviour you also have the funny, smart and delightful parts of their personality to look forward to :)
Suppernanny is about finding extremely difficulty behaved kids the average toddler just wouldn't make good tv.

Dylan has hit the testosterone fueled 4 year old boy phase. He goes from being fine to being filled with rage at a drop of a hat and with no warning its really bewildering to watch. At least its given a bit of an insight into what the teenage years will be like. We've just been putting him to his room to scream and shout and then when its out of his system he comes back down his usual cheery calm self this is a phase this to shall pass.

B was up at 2am today I think the heat must be getting to her I know its getting to us.

We're off to the black isle show today. It's £20 for us to get in so it better be bloody good. What has everyone else got planned for today ?

Well he had a nap at half 2 yesterday but only half an hour, I was at my mums and he completely wore himself out playing in the garden with the hosepipe! He went to bed at 7 really tired but that was the only highlight of the night, he woke up every 1-2 hours from 12am onwards. I think it was the heat, it was 26C in our room last night, even I was waking up on my own because of it.

stac no I havent seen them since, Ill see them on Mon at the group, it could go 2 ways, either they'll apologise bla bla or they'll ignore the whole situation and pretend everythings fine, dont know what Id prefer really.

I was quite impressed/amazed with how long B sleeps in the day too, dylthan.

G has been v sleepy today though, she has some cold or flu or virus or something as she has basically laid on me and dozed for half of the day and she's had 2 daytime sleeps too today. She has just wanted to be held all day. Not really whingy - just all snuggly and a bit out of it - she must be fighting off some virus.

My exciting news for today is I just booked us a holiday for January when dh's sis and bil are here. Well, I booked the flights and we have found a really fantastic looking holiday home online I am going to send an enquiry about tonight.

It's in Queenstown which is a lovely town on a lake surrounded by mountains in the South Island (the really stunning, sparsely-populated bit of NZ). It has loads of adventure activities etc, not that I'll be doing a lot of them, but there's quite a lot of kid-friendly stuff to do too.

We haven't been to the South Island since 2005 so are really looking forward to it.

Sorry about the bad nights people are having, I don't even have the heat to blame it on if it happens here at the mo...

DH rarely hears our two in the night, I often have to tell him who woke up and why I'm not shifting at 5.45 to leap into action. He had to go to work at 5 this morning, and I couldn't ignore L cos she climbed into bed with me I'm wondering about getting her a training clock and teaching her to stay in bed til 6.30 at the earliest. As for S, he's a lost cause, I'm going to start making the sofa bed up the evening before and when he starts screaming at 5.30 I'll just come downstairs and doze.
I don't blame you for not wanting to do anything today mlic, I'm not in the mood for anything other than cbeebies for L and bed for S.

wss that does sounds lovely, hope you manage to book it!

Fingers crossed for some rain and a cooler night, these hot sweaty nights are really boring now...

We're not getting the heat over here at all. There has only been one night that i've slept with no covers! Stupid irish weather.
Sorry for everyones bad nights. Ours was just as bad. She woke up 4 times and had to bring her in to the bed. I was really tired last night too :( and today is the first day this week that I have nothing on and it's the only day I have to give this house a top to bottom clean and washing and ironing and food shop so im going to have to do it all and i'm just so tired!
Wss that sounds lovely! That'll be summer over there won't it?
better go and face the music cos I can hear E emptying the contents of her clothes drawers........

DH sleeps through D waking up and hes in the bed with us! Sometimes I try and settle D without feeding and that can wake DH up. I think his perception of a 'bad night' is alot different to mine!

Horrendous night as predicted :( Lost track of how many times and for how long but can I join you mlic & chul in the 'not happy' corner. Have already screamed at both children
Raining v hard here. Taking L to the docs at 11.15 and might meet my mil for lunch. Other than that its housework and trying to sort things for the weekend - we're going camping near weymouth

tsc that's pants but glad tiny is getting better. Hopefully you'll be able to put him back in his cot again soon