April 2011 - cake-offing, gin-guzzling, wine-sipping, dreams of sleeping

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Thread 3!!!

Jo do you have the teething ring you can put in the fridge/freezer? Those are being well and truly gummed in our house.

Bad night here too. Started with us having to go and pick dh up in Edinburgh after a carriage derailed itself just outside the station. Poop dh was stuck there for 2 hours before my mercy dash. That meantbedtime routine was shunted and he didn't go down until well after 9. Then he was up at 11, 1, 3 & 7. I'm knackered. I'm driving up the road with b today (I'll give you a toot MrsW) and dh is getting the train up after work. Funeral is tomorrow morning. It's all getting a bit much now. Mum wants us to stay for the weekend but I dont sleep well anywhere but home just now. I reall want to just come home tomorrow afternoon but don't want to upset anyone.

We bucked the trend last night and had a good one: eventually down at 8.30, dreamfeed at 10.45, quick feed at 3.30 and then back down until 8! It took a good 45 minutes to settle her in the evening though. Her bedroom was roasting - was it really close anywhere else last night? Maybe that had something to do with the collective bad nights?

We've also got ridiculous amounts of drooling and hands being shoved in mouths. I've tried a teether but unfortunately P hasn't worked out how to put anything apart from her hand in her mouth yet. I really hope a tooth isn't about to emerge. She's only 12 weeks! The biting sounds painful though Buck. I'm so not looking forward to that phase...

I went round a friends last night. s slept on the way home. I then took him from his car seat and settled him but he was wide awake the minute I put him down. Did his next feed and tried again but he wasn't going right out. When I turned the lamp off he moaned again. Eventually I turned the lamp out at 2, he stirred but went off with some rocking. Stirred when dh left at half 7 and eventually woke at half 8 so I caught up thankfully. S us also a hand sucker. And a bib sucker!?!

Ps lis what a night! And hope tomorrow goes well and u get hone to ur own bed!

Hugs to all those suffering.

We're not doing too well here but H went off with daddy this miring so I could nap. Ha! He rang me when I'd been asleep half an hour so I could sign for a delivery. Little weedy guy had been sent to deliver marble slabs! He managed one of the three which I now have to stay awake to guard as he left it on the pavement. Bugger!

Frakk & Buck - maybe think about doing a dream feed at 10-10.30pm?

Buck - if the biting persists, unlatch him, tell him no, put him down, walk out of the room, then walk back in and resume the feed. Most babies soon realise biting means no milk and will stop.

Let's hope we all get more sleep tonight!

Oh and I hope you get your tooth sorted Frakk.

Morning - again! T went back down after his feed and I got DS1 back into bed, but T was awake again at 6.15 and then again at 8.30 at which point I retired to the spare room and left DH in charge - he is around a fair bit atm because of finishing work this week. So I slept until 10.30am

Jo - we have had limited success with teething rings etc, but I used to use Ashton Parsons powders with DS1 and they really helped him. Also try rubbing his gums with your finger.

Lis, if you don't want to stay, don't. Do what is best for you and B, not what is always expected of you. Start as you mean to go on, I learnt the hard way with ds1. I was trying to keep friends and family happy, but that meant an unhappy ds and a seething pissed off me.

Nelsons make some great homeopathic teething powders. I swear by them, I don't know if there's an age limit though.

Bizarrely M won't dreamfeed? If I pick him up around 10, which is when I reckon he would be getting hungry then he won't feed. Just not having any of it, which is odd because he will happily fall asleep whilst feeding.

Maybe try at 10.30 and try it a few days in a row? Ds1 took a few days before it worked.

That was weird, I just saw the National Trust advert on this page and it showed the NT property that is in our village!

I hate teething, and why, oh why, has S learnt how to whine?

C is the same, Star, only interested in putting his hands in his mouth.

Thanks for the tips though, I will give one of the powders a try, until he gets smart enough for a teething ring.

Am cross, as managed to get GP appointment but they won't prescribe Aptamil Pepti as it's not in 'the book', they will only refer us to a dietician. Goddam it. More waiting for hospital appointments. More time getting stressed about feeding. ARGH.

Do whatever suits you best, Lis. Family will get over being put out and you have enough to deal with. Hope tomorrow is ok too, poor you.

Jo that's awful. Just a quick one to say you can buy nutramigen (and prob apamil pepti) from pharmacy. They might need to order it in and it is expensive at £14 a tin but if you are desperate.... Nutramigen is more hydrolised than pepti. J didn't like it at first but she now happily glugs 6-8 oz per feed. That felt like an impossibility when she was on regular aptamil, screaming in pain and struggling to even take 3 oz. I really feel for you. It may be worth going to see diff Gp if you can and asking for nutramigen.

Sorry to hear there were so many of us who had shit nights last night. 4 feeds last night, that's a new record, I don't even think S woke that often as a newborn .

I spoke to a bfing counsellor yesterday about S's feeding as it has been getting worse and worse the past couple of weeks and she suggested reflux. I took S to the GP this morning and he agreed that's what the problem is and has started her on infant gaviscon. I feel so stupid for not recognising the symptoms and getting her help sooner .

Lis hope you can find a way to return to your own place but not upset your mum.

I used the Ashtons powders with DS too and they definitely made him calmer for an hour or so at a time. I remember getting some strange looks though when we were out and I'd open the little wrap and smear white powder in DS's mouth .

caramel we call it baby crack in this house

Met up with H and DP at 2pm for lunch, twas lovely. Left DP on a job and walked home.

It was so weird being baby-free for hours. Got quite a few housework jobs done though.

You're not stupid Caramello, even those who aren't new mums say every baby is a learning process. Hopefully the diagnosis will mean a happier baby AND mummy. Last night sounds awful, hope you get a rest this evening.

Afternoon all, M and I have been to the park for a picnic with other mums and babies this lunchtime. We found a big shady spot under the trees and had a lovely couple of hours. So good that we're going to do it all again next week (assuming the weather agrees).

I've been worrying over the last few days about the amount (or not) that she's feeding. Quite often I'm offering boob but she's arching her back, crying and turning away, I'm not sure if it's wind or that I'm just too keen and trying to force feed her when she isn't hungry? I seem to have forgotten hungry signs and am offering every couple of hours or so during the day hoping it'll help her sleep longer at night (fingers crossed we're still only on one wake up). She's happy and smiley generally so I think I'm worrying unnecessarily...

caramel - C is 22 weeks old and I am still trying to sort his reflux, I know exactly what you mean about the guilt, it kills me that I spent time trying Infacol, Colief, Gripe Water, different formula etc etc and I am only now getting to grips with it. I looked at a photo of him from when he was in hospital and his stomach is like a balloon and I felt dreadful for not demanding there and then that someone help me. The thing is that you have good days and bad days and you think that it's supposed to be hard so you don't realise that you are having it harder or that there's something wrong. What I am saying, in a long winded way, is don't beat yourself up because you are doing your best. I tell myself daily that they won't remember. There is a good support thread for reflux on MN and just shout if you need help.

Daisy thanks for the info re buying the formula. Will look into that tomorrow.

Well I made it up in one piece courtesy of some red bull. So far there has been no ructions with the family. My shampoo leaked in the bag so I've had to wash all my and bs clothes. Thankfully the rains gone so it's all hanging out on the whirlie! Dhs train gets in at 9.15 so I just have to keep myself awake until then. B went down no bother after a bath involving 5 adults. Think he was a bit and by it all. Then he fell asleep in my dads arms.

I mentioned that we might just head hometomorrow and I think they took it quite well. we'll see.

Lis - definitely do what's right for you & your family.

we use Nelsons powders also known here as 'baby coke' lol. M looks a bit shocked when we give it to her but it does seem to help.

Went to St Thomas' hosp this morning to enrol as a milk donor :) only until M is 6 months old and wish i'd got sorted sooner, but still better late than never.
Going to try starting tomorrow.
Annoyingly after having to get up at 4.30am and express this morning as was so uncomfortable. Will have to keep that one for M even though i'm not planning on giving her a bottle anyway

also went to Ikea on the way home, M hated the change room there, had major sobbing meltdown

A gold star sticker for you JKS, what a great thing you're doing, I am in awe.

I hope the funeral goes as well as it can tomorrow Lis, I'll be thinking of you and your Granda.

I think I has a tooth trying to poke through his lower gum , he's also dribbling a lot and chewing furiously at his fists. I just (stupidly) assumed that he would get his teeth at 5 months like his brothers did. Mind you it may just sit there under the gum and not doing anything for a while.

Oh, and I just got back from popping out (on my own) to the shops. I was holding the basket browsing the shelves and realised I had the baby sway going on . I thought I had managed to stop it after ds2, I've obviously started it again . I've also been known to push a shopping trolley back and forth like you do a pram - when there was no child in it!

How funny Iltmimi that's exactly what I find myself doing! L was in her pram earlier asleep and I was at costa counter away from pram getting drink rocking from side to side!!! I also push the supermarket trolley back and forth when L's at home with dh.

Thanks for the words of support about S's reflux. I ended the pity party last night and decided there would be something else to feel guilty about soon enough! Amazingly the gaviscon helped yesterday and she didn't vom all over me and even had a peaceful feed in the afternoon for the first time in weeks . Now to try and get some more milk into her in the days and cross my fingers she will sleep a bit better at night .

I do the rocking thing too even without a baby. It feels weird to stand still now. I also popped out on the weekend for 5 mins and didn't have S in the sling and I felt like I was moonwalking it felt so light not to have her on me after having had her on me all day.

Lis will be thinking of you today.