April 2011 - cake-offing, gin-guzzling, wine-sipping, dreams of sleeping

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Thread 3!!!

ILTMIMI - we do a dream feed too and until the last couple of weeks, it seemed to be working really well. Hopefully we'll be back on track with the night time wake ups soon, so I plan to carry on with the dream feed. Quick question though, how do you know when is the right time to drop it? When did you drop it with your boys?

We had a much better night last night :) put her in a sleepsuit instead of long sleeve bodysuit and she only woke once, well, twice but the first time was midnight when DH got a dead leg and kicked the crib on his way out of bed . So I think she might have been cold on the previous nights, poor thing :( now just got to work out why she's crying after her bath so much so that she doesn't get her massage which she normally loves.

Buck hope today goes OK for you - I can't imagine going back to work just yet. Though I am going down there to say hello and have lunch today.

Another one here who has had the rage! Thank god it's normal, was beginning to think I was a terrible person!

I had a night out with my mummy friends last night. It'#s the first time we had met up without babies! And baby talk was banned . It didn't last long though!!

One of them has a DS a few weeks older than B and he's a big baby alway has been. The HV at the surgery is now visiting every week because he is borderline obese. He is above the 96th percentile for both weight and height, totally BF on demand, and in no way (in my mind) obese. The HVs at my surgery are a crock of shit, seriously how can a 5 month old baby be obese! She's been told not to wean him at all until they say so either. Honestly, I really feel for her, because she went to them for advice on weaning as he is constantly feeding from her and she's going a bit mental. And they have jumped on her and she's not had any advice at all!

Yes we've got a bit keen with stock cubes etc now that DS1 is older so that will need to change. Wine I always think is ok, because the alcohol cooks out.
T is sitting at the table with us when we eat and he watches EVERY mouthful

I am planning his first meal already, roast chicken, potatoes and carrots. We will probably give him a few tastes of banana or pear or something before that just to give him the idea.

Fizz - that is ridiculous! If height and weight roughly correlate then all is well. If the baby was 96th for weight and 10th for height then I could understand why they might have concerns, although it still wouldn't necessarily be a problem.
I get so bloody angry at the shite HVs in particular seem to spout, makes me
Has she talked to her GP? IME they have a more rational view of such matters. Poor woman

Thread title?? - F*ck off with your advice, their our babies and we'll scream cry if we want to! Maybe a wee bit aggressive tho!?

Fizz That's terrible about the HV. My friends SIL had a similar experience, told her baby was overweight and that she should try offering water instead of milk every time!! Ridculous. Needless to say she told the HV what she could do with her advice!

Kitty You are totally not shit mum, I actually screamed at R yesterday and then ridculously added "see I can do it to!!" Very mature of me

Went back to mother & toddlers today and actually enjoyed it a lot more, think the timing was a bit out last time and I was still really hormnal/down.

Buck Hope todays going well :)

Not weird MrsW that you can't stand her crying, I can't remember my name when S is bawling, everything switches off. And I've definitely had those rageful moments in the middle of the night where I'm just thinking go the F to sleep.

Dreamfeed sadly hasn't worked for either of mine despite me trying to stuff them like geese in the hope I will get more sleep out of it With both they were just wide awake after the feed and then woke 2hrs later anyway.

Kitty you would be some kind of saint if you never felt frustration and having people pick away at you must be awful. Big hugs, hope today is a better day.

Hope today goes well Buck.

You sound overtired star, make sure you get a nap today so you can sleep better tonight . Maybe your DP can rock you to sleep?

Thread title definitely has to include something about sleep obsession. I am out of control, analysing nap durations and times and calculating time between night wakes. It's pathetic.

Last night was going well until at 2am I hear a stir and feel the cot only to find S lying in a mush of wet sheets. Again. Tonight I may try a swim nappy over her normal disposable to see if that keeps her from leaking. She is the queen of kicking her legs up and weeing at same time so it all leaks out the back. Cheeky. Monkey.

caramel G has pampers baby dry and they've never leaked wee. Dunno if that's because they're good, or because they just fit his bum nicely. (can't say the same for poo but to be fair with some poos there is no nappy on this planet that would contain them)

Still very little sleep here. G just keeps waking up.. Tried to sleep last night half way down the bed and poking my arm through the bars in the cot to rest on his tummy. Got some sleep that way and slept like that for about an hour but as soon as I woke up and moved my arm so did G and I ended up with him in the bed again.

The trouble is he really like to be cuddled for his sleeps.. If he's cuddled he'll sleep pretty well but on his own he just wakes up all this time and we both end up really overtired. I think I'm probably making the situation worse by continuing to cuddle him for some (most actually) of his naps and have him in the bed so much at night. He always goes down for the night in his cot but last night by 2am he was in with us sleeping in the crook of my arm.

What can I do????

Though he did nap in his cot this morning while I cleaned the kitchen yippppeeee!

Pampers here too & no wee leakage, ditto re the poo though mumtomoley

re sleep - i wonder how many of the poor sleepers are still in the room with you?
Just curious really as I know DD & I sleep worse when we share and so much better when she's in her own room.

DD was up at 4 for a feed/poo/feed combo, then Ds1 oddly up at 5.55 - he's normally the last one up.

DS2 in a foul mood today, not sure why but lots of whinging & screaming, have given in and given him his blankie and he's lying on his bed happy.

Another Pampers wearer here. Never experienced any wee leakages but plenty of poo explosions!

I suppose P counts as a poor sleeper at the moment and she's in her own room JKS. I usually sleep better now she's in her own room though. I kept waking up to check on her when she was in the moses basket next to the bed!

Ps: Caramello - loving the idea of DH rocking me to sleep. I might put it to him when he gets in from work. I think we both know what his answer will be though!!

Last night was H's first night in his own room in his big cot. We did have the four wake ups but he's got a very snotty cold and needed putting on his other side twice. Plus he slept in the cot in between instead of on me. A combination of a new thicker sleeping bag and no noise from our horrendously bad mattress methinks.

Moley, although H is still a bit clingy at night he stopped being so clingy for naps when I started walking everywhere so he learned to sleep in the pram and when we invested in a vibraty chair. I managed one cot nap yesterday (hooray) but he'll easily sleep in his chair. Have you got any time to walk him/a magic vibraty chair to use at around nap time?

Thanks for the support ladies. Reassured that it's not just me.

Pampers here. No wee leaks but same prob with poo. No nappy could contain!

JKS G still sleeps in our room and an NCT friend today also suggested maybe thats part of the problem. He was fine until 3 weeks ago though would sleep from 11.00 till 7/8am! ( with one wake up where I could just resettle him with a dummy) but then overnight he started waking ever couple of hours and has done for the last 3 weeks.

cycle he has got a vibraty chair but doesn't like it much prefers lying on the floor if awake and being cuddled if sleepy. Got him a lovely vibraty bouncer specifically to try and get him to take naps in it but no luck. Have also never yet got him to sleep him in the pram! Even if he's ready for sleep he'll fight it in the pram and just get more and more wide eyed and overtired. (Have the same problem with the car seat, instead of sending him off to sleep he just cries every time he goes in it - actually if anyone has any ideas on that one it'd be great!) He hardly ever cries but every single car journey he has a good scream and I can't figure out why. Tried cooler, warmer, with blanket, various different toys and not sure what it is.

Hello!

Work was ok, lots of meetings. F and DH survived! Although as expected F had

moley G's naps remind me of my DS, he never napped in his cot and practically always woke up when he was laid down flat. I did eventually manage to get him to nap in his reclining buggy. I'd go for a walk or push him around the clos. If it was raining i'd just rock him in the buggy indoors. When the weather was decent i'd park him up in the back garden.

This time round with DD, I havn't even attempted a nap routine. P has sort of fallen into her own. I know she'll usually have one longish nap in the afternoon and a couple of catnaps each day but the times vary. I recognise the signs she's getting tired and do any of the following depending on where we are and what we're doing at the time:
1)At home, Give her a feed and pop her in the downstairs crib when she nods off, hoping she'll stay asleep.
2)Take her for a walk in the buggy/drive in the car.
3) Try the vibrating chair/Daddy on the yoda ball
4) Give up, sit/lie down, get the boob out again and enjoy the cuddles, they don't stay babies for long.

I'd better go and get the washing in and then get back to work upstairs. DH has taken the children to my DM for tea. She's doing roast chicken, so i'll be having cold chicken sandwiches for my supper tonight. I'm busy sorting and packing away both DS and DD newborn and 0/3 clothes ready to sell on at some point, feeling a little and emotional going through them all.

I'm wondering if i'm pre-menstral as AF hasn't reappeared yet . I know it took a few months after DS was born before they returned but DD is 5 months now, I know BF can delay it but anyone know what the average is for normal service to be resumed (not that i'm in a hurry), I suppose once they start weaning it's more likely as the milk consumption will go down

Glad work went well Buck, did you cry? I did on my first day back after DS even though I knew he was fine and my DM was looking after him. It didn't help that everyone kept asking me how DS was.

I've got another 6 weeks before I go back to work but at least it's only part-time now I've got the 2 DC.

I didn't cry, GSY . I was still pretty rankled from my 4am strop! And he was with DH.

I think Monday will be harder when F goes to the childminder, who he's only met a few times. But DH is doing the drop off, so that'll help.

I think the new thread title should contain a reference to weaning, it's going to be one of the hot topics - Food Glorious Food

...I'm definately going to to some housework soon, good luck for Monday Buck. I had a good front door slamming strop this morning when DH couldn't get the printer to work . I wanted to print off a picture of DS making some thank you truffles for his teacher to put in her card. It was his last day in his nursery class at pre-school. He starts pre-reception next week. He got it working eventually when I came back but it took him ages. I took the truffles when I collected DS this afternoon instead.

Looks like another long night. I might be delirious with sleep deprivation by tomorrow.

Nearly there already.

Now, do I tidy the kitchen & sterilise the bottles or let DH (who is currently watching tv) worry about it tomorrow? He's dropping F off for a half day with the childminder tomorrow morning.

I had a strop today too

DS2 was in a whingey mood, DD would not sleep and DS1 just wanted to watch tv endlessly.
I went into town and left DH with them all for 2 hours!
Was only doing boring stuff like getting plimsolls for DS1, etc but still was good to get out.
(and slamming a car door is quite satisfying )

Buck - well done for getting through work, without tears too!

re car seat - if they aren't going to sleep in it, you could dangle some toys off the bar bit? DD often likes to have something to reach out for, tbh they don't have much to look at of interest do they. Of course if you have some toys on it and they aren't sleeping maybe take them off?

that is assuming F will stay asleep when I try to put him down in a mo

How about "Food Glorious Food, Sleep Glorious Sleep" for the new thread title? (Though I like MrsW's agressive more direct title too )

Buck I'm glad work went well and that there were no tears!

We finally made it to the local sling meet today and I've borrowed a beautiful woven wrap from the sling library. I don't think DH is going to let me become a 'Sling Whore' as we met him on the bus home and he couldn't seem to understand why I'd want to try something else when we've not long since bought a new mei tai apparently "It's so pretty" isn't a credible reason

Right best go check on S, tried to put him down at 7 and he didn't settle, he was totally hyper and practically bouncing off the ceiling! Fingers crossed the 8pm cuddle/boob time has done the trick!