March 2011 Windy bums and a good nights sleep - Will these wonders ever cease?

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welcome to the new thread fellow March Mums!

Now they are all rolling suckin and gearing up for weaning!

We can't wait to stop pureeing everything - it is a bit of a faff. I don't think they'll have too many issues with lumps, we have given them the occasional bit of crust/banana/baby sweetcorn to chew on which they've enjoyed. In fact I think DS1 will prefer having lumps of food.

Ours tend to have porridge with fruit in the morning and veg at lunch time. When is everyone introducing an evening meal and protein? Am I right in thinking that they will only need meat at one meal?

contrary to what I posted just upthread, we've been advised to start weaning. EA is on a number of drugs due to a recent diagnosis of a type of epilepsy, and our consultant said we should start on purees to help with the side-effects, so it looks like we will probably not be going down the BLW route to begin with.

Lozario, I think if you're starting weaning at 6 months you're meant to move quite quickly to textures and finger food for some developmental reason I have forgotten. I can't for the life of me remember where I read that.

Halestones I have started introducing an evening meal, my girl is 29 weeks now. I have also started giving her meat but I'm a bit disorganised about it so she's not had much. She's had a bit of chicken and we went out for lunch yesterday and she got some steak strips to suck on. Very popular. I am going to try her on some fish this week as well.

Mind you, she was very adamant she didn't want her evening meal today. Threw the spoon on the floor. Threw the pepper strips on the floor. Had a bit of ricecake but that was it. She's been a bit pukey this afternoon so I wonder if it's linked.

Medee I hope the purees go down well. It's a shame you can't do blw as you hoped, but hopefully you can start giving her finger food when she's ready. She might like a bit of self-feeding with the spoon.

muser I was so tempted to give her a bit of DS's cauliflower today but didn't. Did you have to wait until 6 months to start BLW?

You don't have to wait until 6 months, although obviously it's recommended to start then. I did it about 2 weeks earlier because I could no longer protect my lunch from her. You will need a baby who can pick food up and get it into their mouths, so that's likely to be close to 6 months. Personally I'd wait as long as possible as the days get so much more complicated when you try and fit food in!

Eek yes! At the moment she unblinkingly eyeballs DS every time he eats - but then again she can't take her eyes from him anyway. She smiles for him in a completely different way than she does for anyone else - every time it's as if she hasn't seen him for months! :)

I'm contemplating doing a bit of both - giving her some spoonfuls of puree but also putting some finger foods in front of her. The PiLS are picking up a highchair at IKEA before coming up this weekend, so will have that, though might just use the Bumbo in the meantime.

Hale Arthur is 23 weeks and has a similar menu your dts but with a tea as well. We have introduced tea in the last week - more pureed veg. I am going to wait another couple of weeks until I introduce meat and dairy (was considering making him vegan until he was potty trained and I didn't have to deal with poo anymore, but I don't think that will work )

Arthur slept 8am-5.30am last night, I dozed while he chatted in his cot until 6am when he had a feed, chatted in his cot a bit more and then slept in until 9am! He has slept in until 9am the last few days actually (since dh has finished his work placement and is now looking for another job - eek!) so when dh gets another job we'll be moving his wardrobe out of A's room so he doesn't go in there and wake him up anymore. I would love to think that this was going to be his pattern/routine now but I am going to hold back my optimism because he'll probably be up 10 times tonight!

Hello there!! I've awol for 6 months but was part of the anti-natal thread. I have little Hester who 6 months on Sunday, she is blinking lovely.

We have just started weaning, about 3 weeks ago. It's interesting to read a few of your weaning experiences.

I was all set to do BLW, H was sitting up and reaching for food so we went for it. All was going fine, a few gags but she was loving it. Then I spent a week with my parents who were convinced BLW was a load of bull and that H was sure to choke. Mealtimes were awful. We tried to stand our ground but with every gag my resolve began to crumble. By the end of the week and after a few slightly more dramatic gags I gave up and decided to spoon feed purees.

H was having none of it though.After several days of unsuccessfully trying to get her take a spoon from me, I ended up giving her a soft whole pear (with a bite out of it) which she promptly munched half of.
So she is again leading the way and we are back on track with BLW. The gagging has really decreased which is great although I am still fairly wary of giving her certain things.

She spoon feeds herself (with a ready loaded spoon) yoghurt and some stuff that I am still mushing up for her (tinned mackerel mixed with cream cheese goes down a treat). She likes courgette sticks, and broccoli flowers and ate loads of pasta spirals in veggie and bacon sauce this eve.

I am v impressed with the meat action of some of the posters, as I have only managed this by spoon as yet. I think as I get more confidence in H's abilities I will be more adventurous. I'm already amazed at how well she handles a spoon as well as how well she is chewing her food.

So, sorry for the long post. Got to see to neglected baby now!

Hi Beach. I boiled some courgette sticks when making our dinner to perhaps give EA something to play with while we ate dinner (I haven't yet organised myself for purees) but as she cried all the way through our dinner decided it wasn't the time to offer her food!

Well we're revising our weaning plan now after HV visit today revealed that Lara has dropped to 25th centile from 50th. So she advised cracking on with it. It didn't surprise me as she eats so little. Was surprised she wasn't less if anything! Feel stupidly emotional - my little baby on big persons food!!!

In other gross news, whilst at the HV, I picked Lara up and her BCG blister burst! It was DISGUSTING - pus literally dripped down her arm and on to my hand! Still shuddering at the thought!

Ugh poor you lozario,
welcome back blue
just (i always say this!!) a quick post as i am knackered!! It was Oscars 7th birthday today so have been up with the birds and he's only really gone off to sleep in the last hour!
We have had a lovely day if not a little silly at times but on the whole a very happy boy!!
cassie been an angel, 3 times in a row she has had her lunch, a little play for half hour then bed at about 1pm and i have had to wake her to get oscar from school t 3pm, typical!!
she's got a very snotty nose and rash all over her back and tummy but is still a happy bunny so thinking a viral rash...they're very popular with G.P's
well, am going to bed now!!
will catch up on posts tomorrow!! x

Was up every hour and a half from midnight onwards with madam last night. Am TOTALLY knackered. Went to friends house this morning for DS playdate and don't know how I didn't crash the car. I fed her back to sleep each time but she definitely didn't need it - tonight I'm going on the principal that if she's been fed in the last 3 hours she doesn't get any more.... No more Mrs Nice Mummy, I'm so shattered I can't think straight!!!!

Just took Franz to his first swimming course at Laura Sevenus in Chiswick (have been on the pending list since April!), and it was well worth the wait! :)

Lozario, my goodness! Is it possible that she is going through a growth spurt (though that would make her more sleepy)? We went through this last month, and I was horrified and worried that it would continue, but hopefully it will pass for you and the madam, too! And ew with the BCG blister! Is it okay now? I'm also a bit concerned with ours b/c it's getting bigger after 3 months!

Happy belated 7th to Oscar! :)

Yeah, Petty's Arthur! Do you feel like a new woman?

Bluebeach, I find that many people who had a baby over 5 years ago seem sceptical about BLW, but go with your instinct, as usual.

It seems little Franz has found his big voice and has begun shrilling at the top of his lungs! He does not seem distressed when doing so, though it's distressing ME when he does it in my ear. Is this "normal"? Uh oh, it's started again, must go get the ear plugs! Otherwise, he seems happy rolling around the living room and wedging himself in between/under furniture until I rescue him.

Bcgs take 8-12 weeks to become big and pus filled. Unless the surrounding skin is red and warm to touch there is nothing to worry about!

Am I missing a jab? When did the BCG happen? Can't keep track of all of the injections..Was that a 16 weeker on the thigh?

Lozario sympathy for your night. It's amazing how we can continue to "function" isn't it!

ckny1- E shrieks too- was making some amazing noises yesterday night (not distressed- just happy but surprised it seems!) Is anyone's LO "babbling"? E shrieks and laughs and makes general whooping noises, also a lot of grumpy noises (!) but isn't babbling yet..

bluebeach stick to what suits you. My mum was shocked and told me to be careful that E doesn't choke when I said I was giving him cooked carrot sticks and melon sticks to play/suck/nibble. I wasn't intending on leaving him alone and letting him choke!

And one other question- we are now on 3 "solid" meals a day- baby porridge at 9ish, lunch (fruit n veg) at 1ish and tea (fruit n veg) at 5.30ish but am BF first thing in the morning, then 11ish, 3/4ish and last thing at night too (also in the night). When should I drop a feed? E will never say no to milk so I'm not sure when to instigate it and which one to drop. I'd like to continue morning and evening until he's 1 yr or more if I can.

Thanks folks.

KPidgeon my friends with older babies found that they started dropping feeds of their own accord from 7month+ - usually the afternoon one first, but more a case of feeds became more spread out so less feeds per day rather than a specific feed being dropped. Do you give a milk feed before the solids? A will have a full milk feed and then some solids with bugger all gap in between This has meant that sometimes he will go 3 hours between feeds (starting from the end of the last feed) but mostly still every 2ish hours. I can't imagine him dropping any milk whilst he is feeding so much!

KPidgeon Only some areas recommend you have the BCG - here in the multicultural melange that is South London we are apparently potentially at risk!

Lara had her first baby rice today. She did quite well considering I thought she'd be rubbish! Most of it got dribbled out but I'm sure some of it went down!

Night all... Fingers crossed I'll get some sleep!!!

Ah okay, thanks Lozario E was born in South London but we moved soon after to Sussex so that may be why! He's Tooting born though!

Thanks petty. I just read about on mumsnet and I don't think I will drop any feeds- I'll wait to see if E needs less but I'll keep giving him as much as he wants. Just so relieved it's gone down in the nights after we started on fruit and veg in the day.

I don't give milk before solids, no- in between. So I guess it is every 2 hours still!

Yep bcg a London thing as there is more tb due to higher immigration mix? Neither ds1 nor ds2 got a blister or a scar. You just have to have it in year 1. We are having it later this month.

ck we are also in the waiting list for Laura sevenus but in Kensington as it is closer. Glad to hear you think it's good. Have taken ollie to her baby spa but he is getting too big for swimming there. She is fab isn't she?

Argh, sleep is worse here now than when he was newborn.....and getting worse every night!!! Am losing the will, eventually brought him into bed with us last night and managed to get about 4 hours sleep in total, feeling like a complete zombie :( sorry to moan again, feel like thats all I do on here!!!
Am starting to worry that it has something to do with me coming off my AD's although only minimal amounts are supposed to pass through to breastmilk, think I'll talk to my GP, HV is useless unfortunately.
Glad some of your nights are improving, hopefully ours will one day!

At least the BLW is going well, he hasn't refused any food yet and handles it really well, although my mum has been staying for the last week, she was very sceptical and critical to start with but think she's converted now!

Right, away to do some housework my house is a dump, oh the joy!!

Oh, highland, hope sleeping gets back on track soon! Well done on converting your mum to BLW!

I tried to give F a piece of penne and cooked broccoli yesterday, though not in his eating chair, and he looked at them both like "what the f* am I supposed to do with this?" My BLW dreams were shattered! :)

highland after my awful night the night before last, when she first woke I ignored her (she wasn't screaming but not overly happy either!) and she was back to sleep after 10 or 15 mins. Then she went through til 4am-ish which I thought was fair enough as she's still not on solids. Fed her then. Have you tried that? Is he 6 months yet? The BLW seems like it's going great, well done!!

ckny I just looked in Lara's red book and she had her BCG over 3 months ago too, it was in May, so that's taken a while for it to get to the pus bursting stage of this week! Urgh another shudder at the memory!! As for the shrieking, Lara has been doing this over the last month or so. Everyone else thinks it's funny - they don't have to live with it! I feel sorry for poor DS putting up with it - only told her to shut up once!

Right better get on with tidying up ready for my mum coming (so she can re-tidy... she really cracks the whip!!!!)

Hello all. No BCG here either, it sounds awful (I had mine when 12 and don't like anyone touching my upper arm even now 14 years on) The talk of pus etc makes me shudder...

lozario I think it was you that recommend Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child? Anyway I bought it and its literally the hardest book to read when sleep deprived. He talks about % this and extreme fussiness that and I just don't get it! I will persevere anyway as i'm sure there is some good stuff in there.

Anyone else a bit stuck when it comes to entertaining their babies? This might be a bit of a first timer thing but we both get bored in the house. Same old bumbo, playmat and toys. Hannah doesn't roll or attempt to crawl and if I walk away from her to get a drink/pop to the loo she whinges (only word for it) Its exhausting me trying to think of things for her to do/look at. For the last 2 days we have been out for nearly all the day as she is so much happier out of the house.

hi everyone

thanks for such nice welcome :)

seems everyone is busy in weaning and teeth and sleep, some problems some getting round it !

my DS was very ill since past few days, he had viral and was in hospital, now recovering. All the time looking at him in pain, only thing I could think of was how I missed his smile and that look in his eyes, when he saw after a nap or something. How much I just wanted him to look here and there or me.
now I feel my relation with my baby has changed, he has become more than a part of me ! guess its difficult to explain !