April 2011; springtime arrivals - blackbird, song thrush, mistle thrush, nipple thrush, nappy thrush...

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Here we are, our new thread and this time we all have our babies !

I thought we were getting thrush again, but then realised I had let ds's latch get sloppy. He was constantly clicking and tutting at the breast but I was too distracted to notice.

Ds and I made butterfly cakes together this morning, ds got to choose the colour of the buttercream icing ..... It is a very lurid shade of pink and they are covered in sugar strands. You can never have enough sugar!

Yes that was a symptom of teething in a friends baby.

He's sleeping on DP at the moment (yay!) but will check his tongue when he wakes up. Would he just get it randomly? I have no nipple thrush or anything?
Thanks Liv, off to google oral thrush.

Thought about teething but he's otherwise absolutely fine, he doesn't seem to be in any pain other than the feeding problems.

There's some good info on baby oral thrush at NHS Direct here

Knew I was tempting fate yesterday by putting in black and White about Js good sleeping. Am know up for 3am feed- yawwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.

Yep, Jen, it's me, Petalouda. I needed a change.

Moley, F does that (and screams blue murder). With hindsight, it has coincided with teething. We normally have to give up and I have to pace with him on my shoulder till he calms down. Frustrating, and embarrassing when you're out and trying to be discreet.

Oh hai 4am. You again. I knew it was too good to be true.

Does 3am count as morning or evening for gin drinking purposes? Not that I drink but I'm tempted. Someone pass the matchsticks....

After not pooing for nearly 3 days M has chosen the middle if tv night to fill his nappy, poo mid-change over the mat, fill his nappy, throw up and fill his nappy again. Mostly whilst still sleeping.

In other news please can I ask you all to think of a close friend who's 33weeks and in hospital with contractions. They're keeping her in until she hits 34weeks then sending her home on bedrest. She's understandably terrified and feeling completely unprepared :(

Nice name buck (may I call you that?!)

moley sounds very like the bastard thrush to me. We have it again here too.... I think it may have been lurking in a bottle or something so this morning, if M deigns to be put down, I want to boil all feeding equipment. Have you had it before? It's quite tough to spot on nipples but I find M has white spots on his gums, a white coating on his tongue and a red rash on his bum with very defined edges.

Up again.

Morning frak, call me what you like (well, within reason!). Good effort by M! That is an impressive amount of poo!

Sending good vibes to your friend. Is she on mn? It could save her sanity if she ends up on bed rest for any length of time.

F IS now just looking at me grinning & chatting. He's got about 5 more mins before I dump him back in the cot and go back to bed. Oh, we've got boob AND thumb sucking on now...

Oh, and hi ecuse.

Got a nice little club going this morning!

Yahoo after a 2-5am wake up the night before we has a sleep through night last night 11-7! I feel human again.

Thinking of your friend Frak. Hope everything's ok.

mumtomoley - S does this, and I think it's just that something else is wrong so he can't concentrate - have spent many hours worrying about my supply but it never has been that - and then at the next feed he eats well and seems none the worse for wear. It is upsetting though - S did it to me in a changing cubicle in Next yesterday - aaaargh!! Thought I'd got away with that sneakily but oh no - was expecting search light and a tannoy, "will the lady attempting to breastfeed in the changing cubicle please desist"...... Had to try again in Boots, and he was fine.

Thanks for sleep advice - I think he is now to big and old to swaddle - last night was a bit better - i think when he's old enough he'll be happier on his front but till then.....

Eugh, what was it about last night?

9.30-1.25 2-4 5-6 then refusal to sleep anywhere but on mummy until 7 when he decided it was wakey time.

I gave in, changed his nappy while my porridge microwaved and tea water boiled, sat down to my breakfast and splat! Yes, an enormous gooey poo. Lovely. H has now also got the hiccups. I'd be cross if he wasn't such a poppet!

Sounds scary Frak, hope all is ok x

Will be thinking of your friend Frak.

moley S is a mystery boob screamer and thrasher too. I've run through the list of what it could potentially be - thrush, low supply, fast letdown, slow letdown, distraction, teething - a thousand times but can't find any rhyme or reason to it as it's not every feed or same time of feed or anything. It's very disheartening. Hope it settles down for G.

S bucked the bad sleep trend last night. She still had 2 feeds at 1am and 5am but that's a good night for us by current standards!

Grrrh, why is it that P usually refuses to nap for any longer than 30 minutes during the day time but when I want to go out somewhere (like now!), she's happy to snooze for Britain in her cot?!! I need to change and feed her before we go, so I can't even attempt to move her to pram without waking her. So annoying!

A marginally better night for us (only up once) but it still took an hour to resettle her. I really don't think I'd mind getting up to feed in the night if it just took less time to get her back to sleep afterwards.

Starshaped I was about to write almost the exact same post!

I put F in his cot while he was grizzling earlier, and he fell asleep. And nearly an hour later he's STILL asleep this from the boy who usually only naps for 35 mins!

We were up for an hour too last night though he slept for 7 and a half hours first! Good job too, 2 bad nights before that and I was cracking up. He self settled at 5:30 this morning too.

But, he's 4 months next Thursday, when the next sleep regression/tooth/growth spurt will happen, no doubt.

He's STILL asleep. Do I wait for him to wake up? I could do with going out at 11:30 latest...

My little angel refused a nap, squawked until I got him up, pretended to be hungry, drank 40mls and fell asleep in my arms. I've just put him back upstairs, as soon as his head hit the mattress he was wide awake and smiling at me. Are we sure they are not yet capable of manipulation?!

Thinking of you and your friend, Frak. I hope she manages to hold out for as long as possible but even at 34 weeks the chance of everything being fine is very high. Conor was born at 35 weeks and he's doing brilliantly now. Worst case scenario is still manageable, so please do feel reassured by that. Poor girl being pregnant and stuck in hospital. I think I hated that bit even more than having Conor in NNU! And I snored so loudly that I overheard someone commenting on it to one of the midwives. I was climbing the walls and I only lasted five days before they decided to deliver.

Random screaming sessions are commonplace here too. I didn't realise that some babies don't do that. Conor is particularly fond of having a meltdown while I am trying on clothes. I changed him on the floor of the changing room in French Connection recently - while the young, skinny, attractive staff wondered what the scruffy woman with wild hair was doing to that baby.

I've just been to visit and nursery, as I'm going back to work in December and need to some something out. It was so cute, I really liked it, so that's that decided. All the babies were sitting around a table wiping food around their faces and smiling. It was adorable, I was mulling a childminder rather than nursery but now that I've seen this place I am happier with the nursery idea. I had booked to see a childminder this avo but she'd already got under my skin by telling me in almost the first breath that boys suffer separation anxiety so I shouldn't send him to nursery - so that's been cancelled.

Frak my new mummy friend started contractions at 33 weeks, waters went at 34 and she had her DS, the day after B at 35 weeks. He was 6lb5 and is perfect! Hope your fried is ok.

Just been to BF group, I got B weighed 12lb15 and he's dipped below his curve. I'm already classed as the groups oddity because of the expressing now they are mentioning using formula to boost him, even though I said I have enough expressed milk, I can give him more, but he doesn't want it. HV also said again about following the formula volumes and that I wasn;t giving B enough with 25 ozs a day. I can only nod politely for so long before I print the pages off Kellymom and shove them down her throat! I only go because its another reason to leave the house, but I've come away feeling shit, I don't think I'll go back because frankly they don;t know how to support someone in my situation :(.

Oh and the HV was advising everyone to go on to Netmums i had to hold my tongue!

B has got a cold I think too, he's really rattley, eyes all watery. Bless him, but he seems ok, he's sleeping ok and still feeding, so we'll see how it goes.

I'm sending closed cervix vibes to your friend Frakk.

Move away from the charts Lis, they are only one indicator of a thriving baby. The HV obviously doesn't kow what she is talking about, how would giving formula make any difference if he doesn't want anymore? Her comments make no sense. I'm sorry she's made you feel shit, she should be supporting you, not making you feel like this and giving duff information.

I hasn't been weighed since he was 28 days old and I plan to keep it that way. I can tell he is putting on weight, he is bright eyed, he sleeps, he has awake times, he has very wet nappies and he poo's every day. Frequent weighing stresses me out. Are they putting on enough weight? Are they putting on too much? I start to obsess about weight instead of actually looking at my baby and thinking 'is he doing ok?' and enjoying being with him.

Lis it's a real shame. I think HV and MWs can be really hit or miss. As long as you are confident you don't have to go every week. My HV is nice but I often have to wait over an hour with F in a hot waiting room with no seat so as long as I'm confident of her progress I don't go every week.

OMG I ahve been away so long that you've nearly filled up another thread lol.
I won't pretend to have read everything I've missed there is just too much.
I have been frequenting another forum ......but don't worry I do have a valid reason I am looking into applying to do a midwifery degree i a couple of years and have been trying to get my head around what I have to do to get my qualifications up to scratch for the unis. Plus I am trying to figure out the financial options, including whether or not moving will be a plausable option. There's a lot of thinking to be done.

Anyway, as for everything else, I had T weighed this morning and he is sticking to his line nicely and is now 13 lb 2 (17 weeks) can't believe he's near enough 4 months already.
We have had much reflux, which is driving me mad. Last night he drank his whole bottle pretty well then the whole sofa (and everything on it) got projectile vomit on it. So that was me covered, trying to mop up the remote controls so they didn't cease to work and soggy cushions everywhere.
Stuffed my clothes straight in the machine ready to wash this morning but before the washing was dry, T managed to upchuck all over my jeans (the only other pair that fit nicely) so have had to wipe them as best I can and am sitting here hoping they have dried enough (had to take them off and hang them up) before going to pick up DS1 in half an hour I suppose it is a good excuse to buy more clothes, I mean I clearly need more changes to last me while washing is being done lol.

For anyone who may remember me moaning about my archaeology course, I passed.....only just, but a pass is a pass as far as I'm concerned. And a pass in a course I couldn't stand is not bad going, at least I didn't quit.

and Lis I should just add that this was I think only the third time I've been along to clinic for weighing despite T dipping below his line last time. Luckily the HV I spoke to was easy going and told me not to worry. Not that I was worried, but I do feel lucky not to have some stressy woman trying to panic me. If bubs is growing and clearly healthy then don't bother going, if that is as helpful as they are going to be for you.

T only just manages the formula amount that are recommended for 3 months and he is 4 months....when he wants more he'll let me know and I'm sure you will know when B wants extras.

Oh and just to clarify....the other forum I have been frequenting ISN'T Netmums lol

LOL Stuffed - we may have had to boot you off if it was

Lis - is it a BF group you go to? I'm amazed they are suggesting to top up with formula if so. Certainly avoid the weighing if it's stressing you out so much, M hasn't been weighed other than when the MW/HV came here, i've been on the scales with her at home and she's roughly 16lbs, following her 98% line...
and wearing 6-9 months stuff so i know she's thriving lol.
Can you go but just say not today for weighing?
Or just avoid it and find some other group to go to.
My BF group certainly would not be saying the same thing to you.

Well we're had 2 fab nights in a row; 8-7.30 & 7-6.30
Hopefully she's cracked it and i haven't jinxed it now!

I've not had B weighed since his 6 week check and TBH I was onl curious as to what he weighed. I know he's thriving (bar the cold) and gaining weight, . The HV isn't my HV but another who works from the surgery but covers another area. She runs the BF group, so youwould think she would have half a clue of what was going on! Ah well, never mind!

Arch Belly Babies does sound great, but it's a bit far away for me to get to at that time in the morning. Plus Mondays, for the next 5 weeks at least, is my Youngish Mums class. If you decide to branch out towards Livingston then let me know!

x Post JKS. Yes it is a support group, and I usually don;t get him weighed, just did today. I think she mentioned the formula because the last time I was there was when I was having my tough time getting enough from expressing. So she may have thought it was still the same and I wasn't getting enough for him, hence the formula comment. Ach, maybe I was being over sensitive, but I don;t really like that HV so I take everything she says badly :).

Lis don't worry about the percentiles. I had the same thing with L and had hv panicking me about it! Now I don't worry as long as she's happy, feeding ok and producing good amount of nappies. Don't let it get you down.

Stuffed congrats on passing your course.