April 2011; springtime arrivals - blackbird, song thrush, mistle thrush, nipple thrush, nappy thrush...

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Here we are, our new thread and this time we all have our babies !

I thought we were getting thrush again, but then realised I had let ds's latch get sloppy. He was constantly clicking and tutting at the breast but I was too distracted to notice.

Ds and I made butterfly cakes together this morning, ds got to choose the colour of the buttercream icing ..... It is a very lurid shade of pink and they are covered in sugar strands. You can never have enough sugar!

Bloody hell Arch, what a mission! I'll admit that F sounds cute though, even though I can imagine it was a stressful for you.

H is currently sitting in his froggy bouncer thing grabbing at things. Oh no... Froggy's lost his magic...

15 weeks today!

Oh my god at seven children Lis, and being able to leave the house with seven children. I am struggling to leave with two.

ILTMIMI we can sit in a corner together rocking and sipping gin from hipflasks if you like. I can't find a nursery I like and can afford and has space for DS so I am with the two of them fulltime for now. It's bloody hard.

Daisy my DH does similar hours so I sympathise but you will find a way to make the best of the situation, hard as it is at first.

Liv lol at your Dynasty baby. S looks like a broad-shouldered boxer when I put her in some 0-3 mth tops. A little head floating on an enormous cloud of material.

Daisy have you tried swaddling S? You can use something like this pod rather than blankets if he's a houdini at getting out. S is in this pod at night and seems happy. Only problem will be the transition to a grobag but I'll face that when I need to and enjoy the sleep for now.

Arch your F and my F should get together and raise hell. I went to the airport on Sunday to pick up DH and I was seriously worried DS (F) would run off through the doors at the Arrivals gate and board a plane. He knows all too well that I can't run fast with S in the sling!

p has what i think is cradle cap at the top of her forehead, (slightly dark, raised, a little flaky). I havn't been putting anything on it as I and DS both have sensitive skin which flares up easily and P will probably be the same. However, as it still hasn't gone on it's own yet does anyone have any recommendations on what to use?

Liv F had this and i just made sure in his bath with me each night that i massaged his head gently to ease it away.

Liv - some of the other mums that I know gently rub a little bit of olive oil onto cradle cap at the top of their babies' foreheads. I haven't tried it myself but they reckon it works. Might be worth a try?

Liv - I've heard olive oil is good too. Although they say don't pick it my friend used to let the oil soak in, then wrapped a muslin around her finger and sort of exfoliated it off. If she didn't remove the skin it just got worse.

Star & Daisy - I was going to mention swaddling too. All of mine have had a strong Moro reflex which would wake them up. Another thing to try is to roll a wide blanket or towel into a long sausage, then bend it into semicircle. It sort of creates a feeling of being enclosed if you place it above their head and around the shoulders. You can put it on the mattress and then put the sheet over it.

Thanks ladies, I'll get the olive oil out and try the muslin exfoilate recommended by ILTMI I'm terrible for picking at things myself and am strongly resisting the urge to pick at DD. I've got her finger and toe fluff to satisfy my craving and DS had a lovely crusty bit under his ear the other day from a build up of sun cream, he kept running away from me shouting, "not mine ears mummy, no, no ears, no mushrooms".

Fingers crossed for your dh arch

Just had s weighed. 12.2, and he will be ten weeks tomorrow.

The wedding sounds like it was 'fun' arch.

M and I had our first trip into town on our own this morning. Bought some more 3-6 month clothes for her but nothing for me so I'm still slobbing about in jersey skirts and maternity yoga trousers until I can get my belly to shrink, thoguh walkign to and from town may have helped. We also successfully avoided a huge downpour about half an hour after we got back.

I'm now going to make up the cot bed with the cute bedding my MIL bought.

Oh, and I spoke too soon on resolving the sleep/wind issue - we had 2 wakings for the first time in ages last night - 1am and 5am. But it was a poonami morning (before we walked to town, thankfully).

Ooh thats lovely Chili! Like it very much!

I've been sucked into the phone hacking thread, but I'm backing away now or I'm at risk of busting a blood vessel.

B has just had a screaming session that has left my ears ringing. No idea what for and now he is sitting smiling away at me!

Lis maybe you need something relaxing to do? I'm helping set up a new set of classes with a friend in Edinburgh called Belly Babies with the aim of doing bellydance with our babies in a group and it should be fun. You don't need to have any experience as it's more about meeting up as a group with our babies. Have a wee look if you are interested:
www.mumsnet.com/Local/4004/edinburgh?call=ForthcomingEvent&comp=n&att_id=52992

That bedding is gorgeous Chilli

Lis we had a screaming session for no reason yesterday, in the middle of Debenhams. I'm sure S was aiming to bring the building down around us or something he was grinning away once we maid a swift exit and were on the bus home!

Liv I'm having to try very, very hard not to pick S's cradle cap. It's got to the really flaky stage now so I just keep finding little piles wherever he's been laid. Between his head flaking and my hair shedding our house has a rather skanky feel in places!

And yes, gin needs to be included in the new thread title!

Thanks Kitty it seems that the man who he was to have the meeting with has decided to take two days off and so it has been moved to Thursday.

That looks interesting arch. I;ve been looking at joining a class of some sort (was thinking Zumba), but there aren't any during the day near by that has a creche and I'm too lazy to go in the evenings :o! Whats it like? Is it ok for someone totally unfit?

Nad thats rubbish for your DH, some people have no idea what the stress of redundancy does to people. I really hope it's going to be good news for you come Thursday.

ILike - I'm not looking forward to 6 weeks of holidays either! I am trying to formulate a plan to keep us all from going insane :)

arch - that is rubbish, how very inconsiderate of that bloke - surely someone else could speak to your DH and let him know what the situation is?

daisy - DH is starting a new job in 10 days and we are a bit apprehensive about how things are going to work. I am used to him being out 8-7 most days, but there is some flexibility in that and he can normally be here if I really need him to be - like last week when I had an awful migraine!
His new job is only 25 minutes away rather than his current hour commute so that is good, but I suspect that there might be more late nights involved than there are at present.
When DS1 was little we deliberately didn't put him to bed before 9pm for exactly the reason you give - otherwise DH wouldn't have seen him except at weekends. His bedtime is still 8pm so that he and DH get a bit of time together in the evenings, and he sleeps until 8am usually.
You will perhaps juggle things to suit once your DH is settled and you are in the swing of things more.

chill - that bedding is gorgeous

arch that's a bit mean of the bloke on your DH. Belly Babies sounds good!

I'm so pleased to hear other babies have random screaming sessions. I was starting to think it was just us. All the other babies I know are fine, and F is mental in comparison. It's getting really embarrassing now. Well, my obvious inability to cope is really embarrassing.

Heaven help us when the terrible twos hit.

The idea is that you bring B along with a sling and a blanket and then we do some dance together. It introduces B to some rhythm and movement (which introduced at a young age is said to improve language and cognitive abilities) and gets you out meeting other mums and babies. If I can do it then I'm pretty sure anyone can because I'm still suffering from SPD symptoms and I'm completely unfit!
Yes I've come across the same problem in the lack of ad hoc creche places.

I meant to say there's a facebook page if you want more info:
www.facebook.com/groups/193092567415959?ap=1

Well, yet another post typed out then managed to delete by mistake arrggh!!

ILTMIMI when you've finished swigging from that hip flask of gin pass it over here please! We have decided to keep dd in nursery over the summer. We only have 1 week when the nursery is closed that I will have both dd and G at home with me. I literally think I would lose the plot if I had both dd and G full time. Dd is seriously hard work at the moment. She simply will not leave G alone, so much so that I cannot leave her alone in a room with him. She will bounce his chair so vigorously he would literally be catapulted over the room if he wasn't strapped in. He got his own back yesterday by pulling out a very large lock of her hair when she leaned over him.

Buckminster loving the new name.. your previous incarnation was Petal is that right? G too has random screaming sessions. I was shopping for some shoes to wear to a wedding this sat, and he decided to scream at the top of his lungs. An old lady came over and offered to rock the pram, as she told me she hated to hear babies crying. It didn't make a jot of difference though, G just carried on getting louder and louder. I decided to abort the shoe shopping and ended up finding the feeding room in Mothercare and dozing off whilst feeding G. Those dutalier feeding chairs are seriously comfy!

Arch sounds like your wedding was pretty eventful. We are going to a wedding on Sat. I have managed to find a dress I think I can feed G in and will also take a pashmina to drape over him. I hope dd behaves herself but I will have Dh with me to chase her around if needed.

I had seriously embarassing leaky boob patches on my top today. Went out forgetting to put breast pads in. G woke up half way round supermarket, and started whimpering. Cue both boobs leaking. At first I couldn't work out why on earth my top was wet in two places, fortunately it was a patterned ,dark coloured top. I ended up rummaging around in my handbag for some tissues then frantically stuffing them down my bra. Oh the glamour...

Hello - not posted for a while so just been catching up - our babies are getting so big now!

G is doing very well, and is on the whole a very chilled out and smiley little guy and I am enjoying being at home with the baby far more than I thought I would (I was really quite worried that I would hate it.) Which brings me on the my first question..

Pre-baby I was very very emotional and always have been as far back as I can remember, certainly in my adult life anyway. I think I would probably have a cry most days not because I was necessarily sad but just because I had no control over my emotions whatsoever - in fact everything would result in tears, happiness/anger/frustration/shock etc etc. Anyway although there were tears most days in the first month, I haven't cried for TWO MONTHS! This is a total and unbelievable record for me, which got me wondering if it was to do with breastfeeding hormones. I just feel so much more balanced than I can remember feeling for a looooooong time. Of course it could be my new relaxed lifestyle and that my days are actually just lovely but I think it's more than that. Have you heard of this before? And if it is what can I do to extend it beyond when I finish breastfeeding? I love feeling like this!

The second this that G has been having trouble feeding sometimes over the last week or so. He's always been a happy feeder (even feeding when he's totally full so just sicking it up again) but he refused the breast for the first time about a week and a half ago and it's happened several times since. I know he's hungry but he'll suck hungrily for a brief time and then push himself away screaming and I have no idea why. It's been like that most of the day today and he must be so hungry. In between times he seems fine, he's got plenty of energy and is smiley but he really has barely fed today and is definitely rejecting feeding so it's a bit worrying. Any ideas?

Moley any chance your supply is low? L did that when my milk supply got really low and kept yanking her head off my nipple which was apparently her attempt to get more milk.

I don't think so, I gave it a squeeze to check and milk shot out! It's more that he's turning away from it rather than tugging it, and when I put my nipple in his crying mouth, he does nothing just turns away and cries harder poor thing. He's had a reasonable feed this evening and is currently sleeping but still doesnt seem over it. Having said that, they don't feel as inflated but I'm not sure if that's just my supply settling down.

moley from what i've read from other posters on here could G have oral thrush, i know one of the symptoms can be poor feeding and pulling off as it makes the usual sucking motion uncomfortable. I know that one thing to check for is a white coating on the tongue sometime after feeding but you don't always get that. I'm sure some of the others on here who've dealt with baby thrush will let you know any other tell-tale signs.

Could also possibly be the first signs of teething.