April 2011; springtime arrivals - blackbird, song thrush, mistle thrush, nipple thrush, nappy thrush...

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Here we are, our new thread and this time we all have our babies !

I thought we were getting thrush again, but then realised I had let ds's latch get sloppy. He was constantly clicking and tutting at the breast but I was too distracted to notice.

Ds and I made butterfly cakes together this morning, ds got to choose the colour of the buttercream icing ..... It is a very lurid shade of pink and they are covered in sugar strands. You can never have enough sugar!

I've decided to approach the four-month regression the way I did with labour, i'm not thinking about it...

H really screamy today, no idea why, it's really frustrating

My SPD has gone thankfully, it did hang about a bit more this time round than after DS2 though.

We haven't DTD yet here, when I'm BF i seem to have no very little interest in it and think i'm still holding back re stitches even though i'm sure it's all healed nicely.

RE sleep regression; neither of the boys ever did it so don't panic. DS1 was a star sleeper from 10wks until 7months when i got an awful stomach bug and milk supply dropped.
DS2 OTOH...well he didn't sleep regress as he was rubbish at sleeping anyway, lol!

Wow Lis you're brave thinking of doing it all again so soon! I've said once L is a year old we'll look at trying for dc2 although might start a bit sooner as it took ten months to get preg and I'm not getting any younger!!!

Does anyone else's lo get hiccups a lot. We're on our third lot today! Is it anything to be concerned about?

B hiccups all the time, usually after a HUGE burp! Nothing to worry about as far as I know. A little drink of cooled boiled water usually help get rid of them if he is a bit upset by them.

Not sure if brave comes in to it. Stupid might be a better word :o!

We have a lot of hiccups too, although definitely not as many as she had during her first few weeks (or while she was in the womb). I read somewhere that it's nothing to worry about and that in fact they bother us as parents more than they bother our babies.

Definitely not thinking about baby no. 2 here at the moment. I'm barely coping as it is - can't imagine being pregnant again at the moment! We have discussed it though and would both like to wait for a little bit. In an ideal world, I'd like another when DD is 2 or 3. DH wants to wait until she can walk round a bit so that we don't have to buy a double pram!! Cheapskate!

Hiccups here too. When she gets them she gets a few lots over the next few days but that's how i get them too.

After some very poor napping yesterday - maybe an hour and a half in total? :( we had a brilliant night from 9.30pm to 7am! And she's napped well today - in my arms at breastfeeding group and in the bouncy chair this afternoon.

Hmm, not sure about no.2. I had a reletively easy pregnancy but I'm not sure about doing it again... but I'd quite like M to have a sibling.

I'm also terrified of sleep regression. Fingers crossed she skips that phase.

We'd love a second but DP wants to wait until H is about two. I just hope we're lucky enough to get another go, having seen a lot of friends struggle I've been reminded it's never a certainty.

Thanks for the hiccups info. Feeling reassured now. Isn't it mad the things you worry about!

Hello!

We've had a tired and grumpy day today. But feeling better this evening (so far).

And we've had visuals on his first tooth starting to poke through!

Re: siblings - I've been reading about IUDs tonight. Not only can we not afford another, but I'm barely coping with one, and the fanjo nurse has signed me off shagging duties for a couple of months (which is fine by me!)

I'm waiting for my Dilators Kit to be prescribed, oh yes

Lis very of you trying for dc2 already! I've had to practically beg DP to even consider it and it definitely won't be in the near future :( Think because DP already has DSS and now R he's happy with one of each but I definitely want at least one more!! I know he's put off because I was a complete hormonal monster when I was pg and given the fact that I'm teetering on the verge of having PND it's probably for the best just now anyway!

Anyway that aside am looking for a bit of advice, with Robyn not feeling very well today, she's not been feeding well at all, she's probably not even had half of all her feeds today. Should I just mon itor this for a bit or should I be seeing the Dr? I don't want her getting dehydrated or even more ill than she already is. Should I try and give her water hourly to make sure she stays hydrated even if she's not necessarily hungry? Think am gonna go to Drs tomorrow anyway as her eyes are still really streaming and gunky and it's starting to make the skin around her eyes sore so will ask them what I should do for the best, really just looking for a bit of reassurance from you guys I guess!!

x-posts Petal was it your fanjo that got very broken?? I can't remember!
I noticed the other day that mine hasn't gone back together the way it was previously, kinda wish I maybe had got stitches now

MrsW, yep, I had a 3rd degree tear and surgery to fix it. Problem is, the, er, entrance is a bit, er, small! We did try to DTD but it wasn't happening. So I'm getting the dilators to stretch it out a bit.

I've also got another appt to check the state of, er, the 'other side'.

Sorry, I can't help with your DD. Hope its nothing and she picks up. I suppose you could/should ring NHS direct?

Hi all,
I have fallen totally head over heels in love .....with G. I think (touch wood) we may have finally got through the screamy colic weeks. He is now cooing and gurgling and seems generally a much happier, contented baby. He has had his 2nd lot of imms today so I've probably totally jinxed myself now!

JKS I am just like you from the point of view of DTD. I have absolutely no libido whatsoever at the moment and I agree, I'm sure a lot of it is down to breastfeeding. I also still feel my pelvic floor leaves a lot to be desired, still having minor wee leakage issues so not feeling at all in the mood for sex.

MrsWajs are you ok? You mention you feel like you are teetering on the brink of PND. Would it help to offload to us?
Poor Robyn being ill. If she is taking only half the usual amount of feeds and has a temperature or other signs of being ill then may well be a good idea to see the Dr, certainly if the reduced feeding continues anyway. Are you ff? (sorry can't remember) I know when babies have a cold or very stuffed up nose they can find it really difficult to feed, so may need to have feeds little and often. If you are worried about dehydration then keep a close eye on how often you are getting wet nappies, and if she is pooing ok. Also if her mouth is moist, and if when she cries she is producing tears. I know pretty much all GPs have a low threshold for seeing young babies if parents are worried at all.

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Aww Jen thanks for asking, I'm ok at the moment. But still having off days from time to time, ended up in tears at my last HV appt for no apparent reason and scored borderline on my PND score. Trouble is I've suffered from depression in the past and really do not want to go there again, so trying to stay upbeat and positive but it doesnt always work out that way!! Not sure whether how I feel is still the remnants of hormones or something more. I guess I just feel that having a baby is a lot harder work that I bargained for and yet that sounds ridiculous because in comparison to some on here I've had a relatively easy baby! HV felt I had guilt issues over not managing to BF and I also had issues with my immediate post-natal care. I've since had a meeting with the Head MW and addressed my issues to her so I'm happier that I've dealt with that. I think the worst thing is that the feelings I have (over-sensitive, easily annoyed/emotional) are for no reason and therefore I don't feel like I can find a solution to them. Sorry this is probably all a bit rambled, I think I'm scared that once I start discussing it I'm admitting there is a problem and I don't want there to be one!!

Am definitely going to Drs with R tomorrow anyway so will get advice from them re: reduced feeds, have been topping her up with water when she'll take it and so far still getting plenty wet nappies, poos and tears etc. Think I've realised early enough that she's not quite right so that I can do something about it.

Thanks iltmi he seems to be getting food but keeps getting cross with my left boob for not giving enough and having to be topped up with the right.

cycle thanks and your dh and your you time sound lovely.

mrsw (and Ali) thanks for the tip. Put s down at 11.15 hoping that would be the last I would hear but no he's only gone 3 hours again. And he's faffing about. He had dropped 1, sometimes 2 feeds but is right back up again. Perhaps he was over stimulated yest as I took him into London to our offices and he was nosing about all over the place.

Oh lis you might have us starting a new antenatal thread! Fingers crossed for you! Haven't dtd yet. Agree it's a breast feeding thing. And we have said we will start trying for no 2 in the new year.

mrsw hope your lo is ok. I too have suffered depression in the past and I've had a few complete melt downs with s and it scares me, and like your lo s us pretty good. Come and chat whenever you feel low. You know the signs so get help if you need it and remember what we are doing is new and hard work and it's normal to feel like that sometimes. Bug hugs to you.

Oops misses Jen yay for a colic free g. Long may it continue!

Hi everyone. Not posted in a while...

Just got back from 3 day break at PILs- so so so glad to be home. We have also come back to Js first so cold. One of the 'firsts' I could live without. Poor thing is very snotty and completely lost appetite. mrswaj good job you are getting R checked out - but just thought I'd add some reassurance that if it is a cold think a reduced appetite is normal to some extent. J is still producing lots of wet and dirty nappies despite a big reduction in milk. Hopefully this shall pass soon! Let us know how you get on.

Oh another q. When can I start putting the back of the pram up? S can sit up with help and has great head control so I presume he would be ok if it's only inclined a bit, he gets restless if he's on his back too long and now I've got a painful elbow from carrying him round yest. Should have used his sling.

Our buggy doesn't go completely flat but H is too big for the pram. I've been tilting the buggy a bit more upright recently as H gets bored otherwise! I just tip it back again if he gets sleepy.

Last night was 11-3.30 then 4-7.30 with H back in his cot for the first time in aaaaaaaages. Normally it's the vibraty chair after the 3-4am feed and change. I do wish we had longer sleep times so we could put him down earlier. Sometimes we get 9pm but he's a total night owl!

Kitty we put ds1 in the slightly raised buggy bit at 5 months. I think we will do the same with T.

Jen I'm so pleased for you

I've got my postnatal GTT this morning, to make sure that the gestational diabetes hasn't turned into actual diabetes. Am really nervous

Good luck Ali - i don't envy you having to drink that goop again. Hope the gestational diabetes has gone.

P woke earlier this morning (she's gone til 6.30ish the last few days), so we were up at 4.50am. However, after a 20 minute feed I managed to resettle her in the cot myself - didn't have to call on DH at all. Yay!

Not a bad night all in all though: 8.15 - 10.45, 11.10 - 4.50, 5.10 - 7.30 and we've got a very smiley baby this morning. The sun is shining here too, so fingers crossed for a good day!

Good luck Ali, do you get the results today? Fingers crossed all is ok.

MrsW - the emotional highs and lows are (I think) quite normal after having a baby. I honestly think that most people don't realise how much of a life changer having a baby is. The initial adjustment is tough and can feel like a monotonous grind, but the good news is it does get better, and actually in the scheme of things, quite quickly. But only you can tell if it's something more than that, but please please keep talking. There is always an open and willing ear here x

Lovely news Jen. I had that moment about a month ago. I realised I was just caring for ds and not enjoying him, or even really interacting with him. Then the smiles and chatting started and I realised why it is all worth it.

Morning.
I've got an infuriating non-napping baby this morning. He eventually fell asleep after first feed. Went to.put him in his cot and of course he woke up straight away. I've left him there while I had breakfast. He's just talking to himself now. I get so wound up when I've put hours into settling him, and he wakes up straight away. Grr. Why won't he just flipping sleep?! Other babies do it. He needs to sleep. So why does he resist so much?

I feel another angry day coming on. Aaarghhh.

I need to go back to work!

Thanks kitty and ILTMI it's good to know I can offload a bit here with people who've had similar experiences, think I find it hard to speak to RL people who have no idea what I'm feeling, DP is being supportive but can't really grasp the concept as he doesn't see why there is a problem! And my mum is quite dismissive of depression etc so don't think I can talk to her about it. Been feeling good the last few days though so fingers crossed it stays that way. Think I could put my tears at HV apt down to PMT as AF started the next day!

Ali Good luck for your test.

Daisylulu Wonder if being away has something to do with our LOs being ill as we were away at the weekend as well! Went to my grans so we could take DSS to thomas land at drayton manor! Weather was much warmer and stuffier there so not sure if coming back to the (comparatively) cold weather in Scotland has been part of the cause. None of us has the cold and we haven't been in contact with anyone who has it so not sure where she's caught it from! Maybe just from our day out, lots of bodies in one place + a little immune system = lots of germs!
Got Drs appt today at 11 after a battle with the receptionist - why are they so bloody arrogant!?? "Does it need to be a Dr, would a nurse not do?", "What do you mean you can't make it for 9am " Had to contain myself and explain that since R was only 11 weeks old I couldn't just throw her in the car and be there for 9, without being fed and changed etc! Then right on cue R started crying and coughing her sore little cough and the receptionist suddenly changed her tune "aww I can hear her, what a shame, poor wee thing" I'm gonna get R to phone and make her own appts in future!

I was also pondering the buggy question, R is almost too big for her pram body, well I say almost but she probably is really and I'm just stringing it out to the very end!! Problem is, we have a quinny buzz so I'm sure that if we're going to put the buggy attatchment on, it means we have to remove the adaptors that the pram/car seat slot into, this is going to make things a bit of a faff if we go anywhere in the car because it either means we have to ferry R in and out of the car seat or swap over buggy and car seat adaptors everytime! Think the buggy has a few recline positions though so that shouldn't be a problem. DP got a chicco stroller at a car boot sale last week for £12! It's to take on holiday as I don't want our buggy getting wrecked in the hold of the plane! It's in quite good nick, just needs a wash, only problem is it's blue!! Do you think R will mind!!??