November 05 Babies - They're here!

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Well, some are here!

Londoner are you trying to compete with me for most number of posts in one sitting??

Golden - can do mon/tues/thurs next week or tues/thurs the week after, let me know if any of those are good for you..

Post natal club at the Portland was great. 5 other mums and babies ranging from 4 - 10 wks old. Was good to swap stories etc.. Next week we do first aid.

Diege - we have one of these by the bed, its very good, although worth putting a bit more water in if you want very warm milk.

Londoner - we missed out one of the cluster feeds and brought the dream feed forward by an hour. DH and I actually had a couple of hours to ourselves last night - even got through dinner without interruption!

And I agree - I often look at Natalie and think how wonderful she is

nova, HI! What is cluster feeding?..........as opposed to cluster posting........yes I'm not doing too badly on the cluster-posting front this a.m, I may break the record yet....hmmm, competitive streak emerging alert!
Sounds like u had a lovely evening, sigh, romance is a wonderful thing...

Thanks for the link Nova - I knew there must be something on the market! Am getting increasingly intrigued by your BW references, though as I'm 'doing the Gina', can't bring myself to look at another book (particulrarly if it disagrees on things!)Also wandering what 'cluster feeding is, and also 'dream sleep' (sounds lovely!).
LOL Londoner at tea-tree application tips!! May follow it up with a sweetie! Just being nosey, but how many chidren do you have? This is no.3 for me, and probably my last, but at the same time can't bear for Libby to be my last baby. It's mad I know, as they all grow up, but still...
Must focus and get my bloomin' tens machine sent back!! (they will charge me soon!).
Diege

Diege, we have 2 boys of 13 & 10 & daughter of 7 so 4 altogether now. LOL at you saying you'd like another, 4 is proving wonderful, IMO more children = more love in the house, things just seem to keep getting better...feel like weeping with gratitude! Thought Kitty would be our last...but like you, didn't feel like she was my last...... Who else have you got?

Wow, must have had a feeling you had 4 Londoner!! I have 3 girls (ages 4, 3, and the bubs). Agree with what you say about the love in the house increasing with more children. Bet you'll have another!!

ahhhhh, that's lovely.... I am middle of 3 girls & I love it... although did wish for a brother as well when I was little, used to badger my mum to have more kids...as I loved looking after my younger sister so much, and positively worshipped my older sister.......we're all still really really close despite fighting like maniacs in childhood!
Also love being the middle child despite what everyone else says.
As for having more, well husband is already broody, whereas I am trying to decide who is going for the ship.... also this is in fact our fifth child as 2nd (a daughter called Lucy) died of Leukaemia at 5 1/2 months.... feel so lucky to have had her though as she was a gorgeous child, v.happy used to sing a lot and was only ill for a short time, was v. sudden... sorry if tmi and this upsets...think my body might give up on me if I had another...... mind you, I said that last time, we'll see

Did I say 'who is going for the ship'? LOL.... I meant snip of course

LOL, visions of me and my husband fighting over who gets the 'Stena SeaLink' tickets!!Ha ha ha lol lol!

Afternoon all,

Really lovely to come on and have so many posts to read! Good one Londoner ! Both Joe and Jess are asleep on opposite ends the sofa, she's wedged in with pillows

Had a OK night last night, Jess got sleepy about 10pm (just in time for Lost) but didn't fall to sleep and then got gripey - this lasted til 1am when she fell asleep on my chest (after digging her little toes in my section scar a good few times - ouch!) Then she woke at 4 and I could hardly stay awake I was so tired! Dp let me lie in though til 9, he got dd ready for school which was a big help (this was after I said to him yesterday I'd be able to do the school run from now on so he could get on with work! It's a good job he works for himself)

Went to Toddlers this morning and told off a boy who wasn't one of ours which made me feel a bit better (can't believe I've admitted that I like telling other people's kids off ). Don't know where his mother was but he'd just tipped one of my friend's boy's (Josh's) crisps and started stamping them into the floor (the little g*t) while poor Josh (2)watched on bawling. Have to admit I wouldn't like anyone else telling my ds off though .....

Love the name Kitty, Londoner. Is she a Catherine? My mum's a Catherine Jess is my last, not allowed anymore sections (I have had 4!) I know I will probably get broody but I've had my tubes clamped as another pg would be unsafe (there was a small hole in my uterus from previous section this time )

Nova, glad you enjoyed your post-natal. I haven't really got any friends with babies, they've all got toddlers (And they are all boys!) Our toddler group has about 1 or 2 girls and about 12 boys! There must have been something in the water. And I wouldn't feel bad about your outburst. At least yours was aimed at an adult and not a poor child like mine

Tessasmum, glad you've said you can put the Wilkinets in the wash! Mine's got a stiff patch left over from ds's 3 yr old dribble

Right, should probably get a wash on.....

Oh Londoner, sad about Lucy ; you put me and my whinging about flasks to shame . What a great attitude to be able to look back and feel gratitude.
Not sure they'll be any snipping going on in this house! If we have a 4th (and it's a big 'if'!!), it will probably be in 3/4 years time, though I am pushing it a bit age wise! A lot can cahnge in 3 years though, so I'm not signing up for another one just yet! Wonder if Nova will be the first to get pregnant again? (remember some mention of close gap?).
Still not sent off thr tens machine...it's so windy here, and I've not managed the rain cover on the Jane yet - it doesn't seem to attach properly (I don't think me and the Jane were meant to be!).
BTW, anyone into 'deal or no deal' on CH4, 4/4.30 ishpm? I know it's Noel Edmonds, but it's quite addictive!

Oh Londoner, can't imagine what that would have been like Our first daughter, Lily, died at 3 days after I got pre-eclampsia and had to be delivered early. I don't really talk about it but when I do I'm surprised how many of my friends have been affected by a child dying. My best friend lost her first daughter too at 29 weeks, and another friend's son died in the womb at term after getting a knot in his cord. And my gran's 7th baby, Mary, died during birth and she wasn't allowed to see her as the nurses took the baby away Sorry if I have upset anyone, it does make you realise how precious and vunerable they are. Very thankful to now have 3 healthy children (even if they do drive me up the wall at times )

Just been in for a moan at the HV drop in, demanding to know why they wouldn't see me as I had a legal obligation to HV checks. Turns out there is another drop in session at a clinic a bit further away on a friday for those not registered with the GP - the HV hadn't told me about that one!! Still a bit though as DH and I are both still registered with that GP, and I refuse to register Natalie out of principle as they are soooooo rubbish.

The BW says to cluster feed before bed time to tank the little babies up with food so they don't wake up. So instead of 3 hourly she gets fed at 5, 7, 9 and then a dream feed at 11 (picking baby up out of cot and feeding while still asleep - it IS possible. We've combined the 9 and 11 feed at 10 though as she wasn't taking much at 9 and 11.

No romance last night - just us sat in front of the tv trying to stay awake - lol.

I think it's better to know that we can share stories about our children, regardless of how long they were with us for. No personal experience to speak of but my mum had a baby between me and my sister that died of Downs (i was born as a 'replacement')

Re: snipping, I told dp that if I got sterilised then I wanted him to have the snip too (was in a mood at the time ) as I thought it would only be fair for him to have a share of the pain, after my mutiple sections (and a broken leg - even if that wasn't his fault!) Anyway, found him on the computer googling vasectomies! Awww, didn't really mean it about him having the snip, but did feel grateful to him for just looking it up. Had to say 'oh, I didn't mean it!', think he was very relieved, but I felt a bit of a cowbag

Nova and JenJam - how about next Monday? Shall we say 12:30 in Giraffe, on Essex Road, N1. Anyone else fancy it? Where is lilJ?

Ezra's gummy eye is clearing up nicely with the antibiotic cream.

Jen - glad I'm not the only one with a gut - I still look pregnant!

Re: Lochia - not really whiffy, but not fragrant either. (sorry TMI) No clots in mine since leaving hospital.

Oh good, Nova. Glad you've got a clinic to take her to, fancy her not telling you in the first place, the daft woman! Could have saved you some stress!

Re: cluster feeding - I was feeding Jess whenever she started crying in the evening (just to get her to be quiet!), but she was going on every hour or half hour just for a bit which led to her getting a sore tummy. So now I do make her wait and in the evening she usually has a feed about every 2 hours. When she does go off properly it is for the night and only wakes to be fed but she does go straight off again. It's just the getting her off in the first place that's the problem!

LOL Rodeo and the nsnipping business! Bless him!
Ah Nova, see what you mean now about Dream feed; it's similar to Gina's 10pm one, though she bsays wake them up with the light on so theyb are wide awake. Have to admit that I've always just picked her up and fed though, and she always stays asleep - can't bring myself to wake her up properly. What I do like about Gina though is that you get your evenings, as after 6.15 feed you put them to bed and, touch wood, that's it until 10pm. Even though I'm shattered, I've tried going to bed at, say 8pm to get a few hours in, but then the 10pm just seems like another night waking. Only another 10 weeks until she's sleeping through (yeah right ).
Am going to stop watching drs, and get out of the house!

The BW does her last feed at 6 before bath and bed, but i like getting up an hour later so i've moved the whole routine on an hour. It means she's in bed asleep by 8 which then gives us time for dinner and i go to bed after the 10 feed.

Golden - have now got a friend from southampton coming on monday, sorry, can only do tuesday next week (social butterfly that i am - lol)

rodeo and londoner - your posts really touched me re: more children=more love in house. I also felt v. sad to hear of your losses - lucy and lily. it makes me feel very grateful and lucky to have Finn - i know it's a cliche but having a baby has changed my priorities in ways i wouldn't have expected. I know already I don't think i can go back to work as planned in April. I want to enjoy seeing him grow for as long as i can do without the cash.

golden and nova...how bout if we do the week after next, so the three of us can meet? (+ anyone else who is interested - Londoner, youre at home to travelling to the angel - do you fancy it?)

golden - i like your choice of names - ezra and nathaniel, and good weights too considering they were born 5? weeks early. a friend of mine delivered on 17th Nov at the royal free 17 days late...and her little Rosie only weighed 5lb something - perhpas her dates wrong or something

the old lochia is magically 'drying up' today - hooray - and just for the record i didn't smell that bad, just not pleasant to me (might have said that already but feel a bit about admitting foul odour on reflection!!! was freaking me out for a bit though, last night i pulled out a piece similar to the umbilical cord(!)

dp says i'm addicted to mumsnet - is making me feel guilty - even tho' i'm not on it very much.....better go

bye

Sounds good Nova - may have a sneaky peek at it. Sounds like you have a pretty good routine already and get time to do your own thing in the evening too. Things seem almost back to normal when you have a few hours to yourself!
Twinkle/Enthusia/anyone else venturing 'up North' - how about a meet-up soonish? Perhaps somewhere in Manchester?
Diege

JenJam & Nova - shall we make it a week on Tuesday then?

Any suggestions on how to keep a baby awake?

LOLrodeo at you telling off kids at playgroup,he he, good going...some people just switch off and leave their kids unsupervised at these groups don't they , if it wasn't for us vigilantes.....
BTW Kitty is short for Kathleen, Irish version of K/Catherine, as plenty of Irish on both sides....but only use Kathleen for her birth certificate, although since Elizabeth has come along with her big long name Kitty has been signing all her pictures (copious amounts produced daily) 'Kathleen'.. v.cute.
Oh rodeo have just seen your post about your first daughter Lily, what a huge loss for you that's so sad, and how courageous of you to have more children....Good going.
LOL at you calling yourself a cowbag after telling your husband to have the snip as well...haven't heard that expression in years,lol lol !...and thought it was an invention of my sisters & I anyway!
Diege, thanks for your acknowledgement of my loss
Ooh it sounds like you're pretty keen on another baby to me...why do you think you're pushing it age wise? I think as long as you still have your periods then you're built to be able to carry/nurture babies?...I'll be 37 on Monday....
nova lol at you trying to stay awake to watch tv last night, v.good imagery,lol! Glad to hear you've found a clinic you can attend, well done for persevering....I'm so impressed.
So sorry to hear about your sister with Down's, and I'm sure you know that of course you are not a 'replacement'....
Jen thanks for your kind words.......
It's v.touching to hear that you no longer want to return to work as all you want to do is be with Finn......so cuuuute! Thanks for suggesting I come to the meet up...any ideas when it might be? Is cafe near the tube? Oh I feel shy though bit like a blind date....won't it change our relationship forever?[melodramatic emoticon].Glad to hear your lochia seems nearly finished...me too...although I expect it could creep back if I do too much, so try & not overdo things...we must remember this girls!

Phew, a pretty prolific day on here for me...funny how my kitchen floor remains unwashed as yet this week.......

another sneaky look at mumsnet....i AM addicted. i'm good for a week on tuesday ...that'll be Tues 6th Dec? Can't believe how close christmas is have been completely absorbed by pregnancy and motherhood, in fact where has last 6 months gone??

Londoner giraffe is a cafe type environment, and is really child friendly so buggies and breasts are no prob. it's a 5 min walk from angel. it's on essex road just past Islington Green ...

gotta go baby crying again for no obvious reason (i haven't got any more milk to give him!! and nappy just been changed) golden why do you WANT to wake up yours????????????????

golden

meant wake yours up