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Dec 08 - tears, tantrums, giggles and piddles - and that's just the mums!

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traceface · 18/03/2011 14:13

Or maybe piddling whilst giggling is just me? Blush
It's so sunny here I feel Spring has sprung - where's that daffodil emoticon gone? Had a friend round this morning for a natter and cake - muchos snot and tears but all good. Think I might go for a little bike ride now to blow the cobwebs away.
And no vag - not a chance!
rubs don't you dare spend all your time tweeting - your first loyalty is here!

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MomOrMum · 12/04/2011 11:06

DS is at home all next week because his childminder is on holiday and I have MIL here to help with DS2. I should attempt potty training shouldn't I? Or should I? I fear it.

LadyThompson · 12/04/2011 11:11

Will go with the flow re: Thurs or Fri but as for potty training next week, Mom, even with your MIL there I think you have a lot on your plate at the mo so don't pressure yourself into trying potty training AS WELL. Well, you can give it a whirl but don't beat yourself up if you don't get to it. I have highshelved it for now because after DD1's brief obsession with it I only have to mention potty and she gets angry, so I sense now is not the right time...Rubes is the expert on flying tinies but it would nice for your DS1 and your parents and nice for you too, right?

Rubena · 12/04/2011 11:27

Aaah yes Mom, I see what you mean. DD was never a screamer and only really cries / cried for a proper reason (ie starving / nappy / tired as we had all those tongue tie / latch problem / colic issues) so was able to never attempt bathtime unless I knew she was fed / clean. I was lucky I guess.
I don't think it's insane to send him with dh to Canada, unless it's for the sole reason that you think you can't face them both? I think you can, and I think you'll be fine by then - and things will be easier. Howeve,r if your parent's are desperately wanting to see ds1 also, then go for it (I wouldn't as dh would be asleep the whole flight and ds would be bothering the crew Hmm not to mention my ds does turn into a screamer when he is made to be strapped in on an exciting plane ride Confused)
I think I could come in Fri morning - depending on the time?

Aaah gotcha re Nestle lady

Artichokes · 12/04/2011 11:42

Hey Ladies, just a quickie to sat I could do anytime Thurs but Fri is now looking impossible. However, if Fei better for others then go for it.

Beans, all fingers crossed for your dad today. X

Beans33 · 12/04/2011 13:05

Dad's out f theatre and it went well. I didn't realise how nervous I was! But now feel almost hysterical with relief! Have also made up with Mum and am sooo relieved. Now will get back into less selfish posts and read properly and be more engaging. Sorry have been so wrapped up in self.

X

MomOrMum · 12/04/2011 13:06

Wonderful news Beans!

Rubena · 12/04/2011 13:20

Great news Beans - feet up and have a Winex

Thurs/Fri starting to sound complicated & tbh I'd rather come in if it wasn't just a quick dash in and out, as it's a bit of a faff and quicker/easier for me to drive to Jams! So I might give it a miss unless it comes together any better for others. As always, anyone welcome to visit me at mine (selfish)Grin

DeidreBarlow · 12/04/2011 13:21

Beans excellent news - both about your Dad and you & your mum making up. I'm sure the build up of stress was the cause of the row...not pleasant but at least its all sorted.

Vag, hope your better soon!

Mom, I keep thinking about potty training, but then change my mind. I'm dreading it tbh. As for DS1 going to Canada, if your parents are up for it and accept that he may well be grumpy for a few days as hes tired then why not!

Lady thanks for asking about my Nan. She had the reversal op done again last week. All went very well and she is recovering at my Auntie's house. Not that it suits her much, she puts way too much pressure on my mum and has basically asked to move in. Which Mum is not thrilled with and won't happen but makes my mum feel guilty all the same.
As for me I still feel flat but am trying to be less miserable. We are totally skint and could really do with a holiday but its not going to happen. So everything seems like we are just carrying on with nothing much to look forward to...well the odd camping weekend will happen but its not exactly relaxing! I also feel generally rather old, fat & frumpy in general. I'm trying to figure out what happened to my care-free life....then I realise I traded it in for the DC's whom I wouldn't be without...but I do get wistful about the old days . Right i really am trying not to wallow....

zoejeanne · 12/04/2011 14:23

Just been skimming, but thrilled to hear good news fromBeans' Dad Smile. Will read more thoroughly later and come back. Hi to everyone else

LadyThompson · 12/04/2011 15:14

That is super news, Beans!

Thurs/Fri is indeed sounding like a bit of a conundrum but still available for Thursday afternoon or Friday morn should anyone fancy a coffee...

DB, I am glad to hear the reveral op went well but sorry to hear your Mum is under so much pressure...it must be hard. As to feeling old/frumpy/fat/poor I do know how you feel. I wouldn't swap the girls for anything but I did used to feel rather fabulous and now I feel...well...a bit mumsy and on the periphery of things. And I am 39 on Saturday However, I am trying with the weightloss (it is now dribbling off. Maybe not even that. But even infinitesimal weightloss is in the right direction...right?) And it sounds like you are going great guns with the running. Money is a tough one. I agree it's important to have things to look forward to. Is there anything you can Ebay to start building up a holiday fund? I have a building society account that I put odds and sods of money in (I mean really small amounts sometimes) and you'd be amazed how it tots up. I am thinking about doing loads of Take a Break competitions again Grin I mean, there are sometimes holidays to be won on MN and stuff as well.

I am going to start getting up earlier every day. That's my plan. DD2 wakes anything from 7.30 to 8.30...If I got up and 6.30 every day I could do a lot in that hour (just for myself).

Rubena · 12/04/2011 16:24

Lady, how long are you at your Mums and what are your plans after that?
I meant to add I LOVE the Fitlops. After the first day I had a bit of a back ache and dh said it's prob as they kind of push your pelvis forward or something which correct my posture as after carrying the babies (and before from being tall I suppose) my posture has been crap. After day one it hasn't hurt and I've worn them every day. They are so comfy I think I'll buy a second blingy pair Blush
Gosh dull day at home for me but ds has woken now so might head to the garden with a glass of something yummy Grin

Rubena · 12/04/2011 16:32

Oh and Deids, you're far from frumpy. But I do understand about feeling cruddy (me now) I recommend a haircut or colour as it can do wonders.
You need something to look forward to - what happened to talk of the big meet up up North-ish? However, if we can't manage to get a little London one together - it'll be tough.
Right, far too long on here today.....

vagolaJahooli · 12/04/2011 17:01

Beans that's brilliant news, Woohoo. I'm really happy you and your mum have made up. How is your dad doing post op, is he in much pain.

DB thanks for the update on your nan, a bit hard for your mum. Have they basically decided that she will move to your mums? Is there any chance of help from your Aunts?
On the holiday front if anyone fancies a trip over here we are going away for a week over Easter from 26th-3rd. you can have our house, use our bikes, we live close to the beach and not far from the tulip fields. we are a one hour train ride to Amsterdam and there is the girl with the pearl earing in the Mauritshuis gallery. You just have to feed our cats.

Sorry for confusion Rubes. Yes its Nestlé, if only it was their marketing practices in developing countries. Sadly their employment conditions in all countries plus loads of other dodgy dealings makes them a swear word in my book. And it means I can't drink Milo!

Gotta go my head hurts, bloody cold. I exerted too much energy cooking dinner.

JamInMyWellies · 12/04/2011 17:08

Great news Beans. Grin

DB i agree often wistful for life pre DC and DH, but then I remember how mizog I was and how much I actually wanted a DH and DC. Grin

Fitflops sorry ladies cat do them they are just a bit to far down the mummy route for me will stick with my havianas.

Oops would help getting the boys tea ready if I actually put it in the oven.

Easter busyness here.

We are free Thurs but sounds like its a no goer as ever if you want to head my way you are more than welcome. Oh and Rubes I would come to you this wk but I have 3 massive journeys coming up in the next wk and diesle is just too blardy expensive.

Right DC tea.

vagolaJahooli · 12/04/2011 17:10

Oh and we are only 30 mins from the boat, a cheap way to come over and you can bring your car.

EffiePerine · 12/04/2011 17:22

Beans: great news :).

Wot is this Pinky Doodle on CBeebies? Too educayshunal by half. Was it Zoe who recommended C5 in the mornings? The DSs love it but have decided to restrict telly after breakfast except at weekends (mean mummy).

Vag: how are you feeling? Hope you can pass the boys over to DH pretty soon and collapse on the sofa.

MomOrMum · 12/04/2011 17:44

Forgot to also thank whoever suggested C5 in the mornings. Sayonara Tweenies and Zingzillas!

vagolaJahooli · 12/04/2011 18:00

On coach now with Octanauts on, dinner and pudding has worn me out. DH on route now VIA supermarket for whisky etc supplies.

DeidreBarlow · 12/04/2011 18:55

Vag my nan is currently at my Aunts as she never stayed with her following her last surgery so it was only fair she 'did her bit'. My mum lives the furthest away out of my Nan's 3 children but, as she took early retirement her brother (he lives 5 mins away from nan) and sister and also my nan seem to think that she has the most time on her hands, and therefore would welcome having my nan 24 hrs a day. So no nan isn't going to moving in as she is actually capable of looking after herself once she has recovered from surgery. The real problem is that she is lonely after Grandad died...but not sure how you can overcome that one tbh. Hope the hot toddies help you feel better.

DeidreBarlow · 12/04/2011 18:56

Milkshake, ie C5 is brill in a morning....lots of varietyWink

Bloody hell I don't post for a while and now i can't shut upHmm

vagolaJahooli · 12/04/2011 20:17

The local supermarket has every conceivable alcoholic beverage under the sun except SCOTCH or whiskey!

Oh well boys asleep and DH cooking dinner. I've had some paracetamol and the head has settled a bit.

traceface · 12/04/2011 22:31

hi all.
Not getting much chance to get on here at the mo, so forgive my lack of personals.
Beans so glad you've made up with your mum and that your dad's surgery went well - how is he now?
deidre love, I wish I could give you a big hug. Sorry you're still feeling flat - is the sunny weather helping at all?
Vag you are so generous, offering your lovely home Smile I feel a bit weepy tonight, and your offer made my tear ducts prickle!
zoe I probably wouldn't go on the hen thing - how near to home is it? And you were asking about P's speech - well she's come on in leaps and bounds! She is not as clear or fluent as the others in her nursery class, but is definitely not mute any more! She's quite chatty really and starting to put words together, some of which even people other than DH and I can understand! Her nursery staff have commented that they think she's coming on now with her speech.
We had someone view our house today - quite amusing as she pulled up outside, rang the agent, who rang us, we said she could come, so she got out and came! So we had no chance to tidy at all, and L and her friend had managed to play in every room in the house today, so it looked a bit like we'd been burgled, but I guess you'd expect signs of life in family home with no notice! Anyway, they're relocating from nr Leeds and have a cash buyer for their place, so are in a hurry to find something quickly...fingers crossed that they liked ours! We're going to see this on Thursday, which is a bit over budget but in a lovely village where we have some close friends, and only 10 mins from where we are now. I'd love it to work out but I'm trying not to get my hopes up - after all it was only our first viewing!
I'm feeling a bit 'on the edge' at the mo. I know I'm so much better, and I've managed my first few days back at work. But I think I did so well, that I thought I was totally better, and was in fact wonderwoman, so it's thrown me a bit that my tears are back. I've been feeling grumpy and over sensitive with DH, and just generally a bit blue. I'm sure it's just normal to have good days and not so good days. Also I've put quite a bit of flab on - not a huge amount of weight - about half stone - but it's so noticable and it's actually getting me down. I've really cut down on the crap this week and have been out on my bike a few times, so hopefully I'll stay motivated to keep it up and get rid of my extra belly and bum.
DH got a new phone today so he's entertained himself all evening by fiddling with it! Hence my chance to come on here and bore you all with my witterings!
Oh kiwi I forgot - your friends - that situation sounds awful. It all sounds a bit unusual to me. There is usually a strategy meeting, pretty much instantly after an incident, where lots of people (Drs, HV etc) all discuss the case and decide whether it needs to go to case Confererence, then at conference they decide whether a Child Protection Plan is necessary (which is the new version of putting a child on the Child Protection Register). An accident like the one you described doesn't sound like it needed to go beyond the strategy meeting stage, so the prolonged supervision sounds rather bizarre to me. My thoughts are that either things are done very differently in different areas, or that this is being handled badly (in which case the legal advice is vital), or that there is more to this than meets the eye. It must be horrendous to be the 'victim' of investigations, but I always tell myself, when dealing with child protection, that it's better to over-investigate an innocent family, than to miss a child who is suffering or in need. I guess just knowing you support them will be valuable to them. I like using this company to let someone know I'm thinking of them.

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zoejeanne · 12/04/2011 23:06

Hey everyone, I'm just watching the BF programme on BBC3 at the moment and simultaneously reading the thread about it ? hundreds of angry posts and mean words exchanged on the thread before the programme even started. You gotta a love a Mnetter Hmm

Beans I hope you?ve raised a glass of Wine to toast your Dad tonight, still v happy for you

And lovely to hear your Nan?s op went ok too Deids. But difficult for your Mum and Auntie to be chosen between

Obviously my bedtime routine is different with only one, Rubes, but here it is anyway. Bath only every other night, as DD has always had dry skin and eczema, and if she?s past it with tiredness or something we put it off til the next morning, or sometime during the next day. What we do do every night, is wash, teeth brush, pjs, then milk and story in a dark bedroom starting about 7/730 (although have recently realised the dentist would have a fit about milk post tooth brush, so thinking of doing milk downstairs). Once all that is done, its into bed. However lax I am about routine for the rest of the day, I am a stickler for once she?s upstairs and in pjs she doesn?t come back down. I remember when she was about 2 weeks old watching telly and doing a feed about 10pm, and I couldn?t for the life of me get her to settle after it, so have ruled out telly and lights at bedtime since then and have been very lucky to have a girl who settles well at bedtime (naps and resettling in the night have been a whole other story though).

LadyT I totally agree that childcare is madly expensive, and its much better up north than some of you have mentioned that you pay. I always thought that if I had another then I?d have to give up work, but as it is, even if I conceive this week the little one won?t be born until DD is 3 and eligible for free childcare for however many hours, so the costs wouldn?t change. A bigger worry is how to juggle school hours (when we get there) with work, as who would want to employ me only between 930 and 230 every day? And I also agree that an earlier start to the day than DD makes for an easier day in general. On week days I get up at 6, regardless whether I?m at home or work, as I get an hour of peace before DD wakes. Sometimes I?m wonderwifey and do some cleaning or sorting stuff for the day, but more often I?ll have a lazy shower or bath and breakfast in complete peace ? self indulgent, but I always have a better day when it starts serenely. (However if DD tended to wake at 6 rather than 7, then I doubt I could bring myself to set the alarm an hour earlier, so I?m lucky there)

Grin at Mom looking at her crying DS and never considering trying something to pacify him. Are your parents open to having DS1, and patient enough to deal with jet lag? If so, don?t think twice ? it?ll be your first chance to have some serious one to one time with DS2 and get to know him, and if your parents and DS1 are anything like mine, then it?ll be a week made in heaven for them all. No no no to potty training!

Effie/Mom it was Beans who recommended C5 in the mornings and I then had a moan about annoying Tweenies and Big Cook. However I still haven?t tried C5, but have found that BBC2 seems to have all the Cbeebies programmes I can bear in the mornings, so use that when I need a minute or twenty to sort something out

Bummer at the lack of whisky Veg, did they have sloe gin? I swear by that when I?m grot. I hope tomorrow is a better day

Hurrah for the viewing Trace, and I like the look of that house you linked to. My fingers are crossed. Great to hear about Ps speech, DD is quite behind the others at nursery in terms of fluency and sentence creation, but does have a wide vocabulary, so they sound very similar in terms of development.

Thanks for all the advice on the hen do, I?m pleased there?s a consensus, makes me think I?m not being unreasonable. Just have to pluck up the courage to say no, as I hate disappointing people, but like several of you have said I need to get better at prioritising stuff. And there?s a chance I?ll see my other friend that weekend, the one who is miscarrying, and I really want to see her. On top of the mc, she has an ear infection too, talk about being kicked when you?re down. So I think that seals the deal

Ok, DH has been in bed for ages, so I should turn in too. In fact at 9, I thought he?d taken an age putting DD down tonight despite no sound of a protest, so I went to see if he was ok and they were both fast asleep Grin

Beans33 · 13/04/2011 11:19

Trace - that house looks smashing - lots of potential and do you think they'd take an offer? I hope that lady liked your house.

No news on Dad today - Mum's gone to see him this morning, so will know more later. But he's in intensive care because of his pacemaker. But it's no bad thing as they'll be keeping an extra eye on him, which is great.

Last night I had rather too many glasses of Wine and am feeling a little bit slow this morning.

Rubes - I love my fitflops too. They arrived yesterday and I pottered around in them all afternoon. Here's to a tight ass. Hmm. But Jam - they are a bit mummy aren't they??? I've got Havianas, but they shred the skin on the bottom of my big toes for some reason. It's quite disgusting and really sore as they get all flappy. Rank eh?

Rubes - bedtime routine for us is: dinner at 5.15. Bath at 5.45, milk on sofa with Peppa Pig or Beebies and then bed at around 6.30. It used to be 7, but since DD1 (mostly) dropped her lunchtime sleep, she's knackered. And DD2 will happily go down then, or will wait til 7 if DD1 does have a little snooze, which does sometimes still happen. We always have The Three Little Pigs as bedtime story - without variation. And DD1 reads it to me, which is heavenly. Best time of day. Then they both conk out. Phew!

I am proud to say it was me who recommended C5 in the mornings. Although probably shows what a rubbish Mum I am, that I put it on for breakfast in the week, so I can get all the washing, cleaning from night before etc done. No TV allowed by DH at weekends, so we have it in the mornings, but has to go off at 9, then for 1.5 hours at lunchtime instead of sleep, and then off until 5ish for wind down pre supper, then at bedtime. Probably far too much!

DH back from Serbia this afternoon at 3. Might go and get DD1 from nursery a bit early and we can all hang out together. That would be nice!

Right, off to do wonder-cooking. Has anyone else got Fay's Family Food book? I don't really warm to the woman on the Tesco ads and never did in Cold Feet, but she does a mean recipe!

xx

JamInMyWellies · 13/04/2011 16:05

Aargghh using the time the boys have a friend over to list stuff on ebay. Boring!

Anyone doing anything tom?