Jan 09: Spring is in the air and baby mj is due (and some of the others are going to the loo)

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a nice and new and shiny one

That's good to hear Tink.

Just noticed another typing error in my post should be 'doctors' not 'docters' obviously. [blush
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Nice Stripey

Hope everyone had a lovely Sunday.

Things are great and relaxed around here... so glad DH is off. MW popped in at 10, went to farmer's market, had picnic in the field, drove around to look at some property then home. DH picked up some beer, had a fab dinner and now just relaxing till bath and bedtime for DD1. DD2 is sleeping, again. I love these first couple of weeks.

lovely ga

had a great time at mums 60th party last nite

hi dog

had a gd day here girls abit moany and tired
tom have a friend over for lunch
dh taking dd1 camping thurs and fri
my bday is sun
off to bstke on train with my mum

Hi all - glad all is well stripey - I was with hkz and 120 in the park when I got the all-clear call for my cvs, and I was in tears, and my numbers were only 60-1, so I can imagine how relieved you feel. Now fingers crossed for a relatively easy ride for the rest of the pregnancy.

Sounds heavenly relaxed ga - glad you are enjoying it so much. Already missing those first newborn weeks with N - she is 10 weeks already!

We've been super busy too - Hay Festival this week which has been great fun - DD came to watch Ladysmith Black Mambazo with us last night which she slept thru very well. She's just brilliant, absolutely gorgeous and I am hopelessly in love with her. Am feeling exhausted and over-emotional though, crying at everything and sort of over-identifying with everything too - actually started crying when someone was telling me about her bad week, which was a bit embarrassing. Do you think it's the hormones? Also generally very anxious. I wonder if I have a bit of PND.

Anyway, big waves to you all.

Just had a quick catch up and bookmarking.

Stripey, that must have been a difficult few days of waiting, so glad for you that all is ok. When are you due?
MissJ H just is nearly 19 weeks, it goes by really quickly doesn't it? As far as feeling exhausted goes andbeing a bit emotional I am like this still, I well up at the drop of a hat and really embaress myself If oyu are worried having a chat with yourGP wouldn't hurt. I am way more anxious after kids, but about daft things like driving (I am a nervous wreck on the motorway when DH is driving, v.bizarre as pre-dcs I used to get upto all sorts of ridiculous antics).

Dog, we never took any pics of our meet up! Was lovely to meet your gang, they were all gorgeous.

Tink, hope all goes well with DD1, hope the school are being supportive.

GA you sound all loved up, glad it all went well, she's a beauty!

Hello to everyone else, have retained bugger all as usual!

DS has almost mastered potty training after a very messy week, felt like we were getting nowhere for about 7 days ten suddenly he started weeing in (and around) the potty, he definitely needs to work on his aim! He has an MRI under GA on fri at GOSH, results te week after, so hopefully nothings growing.

I am back at work, p/t for a month then f/t for the last few weeks. Have handed in my notice as we are moving to Newcastle, DH has a job at the uni there and the GPs will be on hand, we have put an offer in on a house and are really looking forward to it. Can't wait to be near the sea again. Am going ot miss all the people down here, but looking forward to space and countryside on our doorstep. Right, this is turning into a right me me me post, so will give it up and try to keep up a bit more. Why's it so quiet on here?

hi ladies

hi miss j agree chat with gp if any worries
nesta sounds gorgeous
hi gotart sounds like u r having a blissful time
hi hkz u sound busy
i have been potty training this week started on tuesday she hasnt done 2 bad 2 accidents a day have been putting her in pants
school r being very supportive thanku

Hi all

Am of all these snuggly babes. Found myself feeling decidedly broody seeing babies everywhere last week and I was in Mothercare yesterday (buying dd her first ever proper pants! ) and was so jealous of all the pregnant ladies perusing the tiny sleepsuits and bootees. I am daft, its not even as if I do want anymore dcs, just the thought that I'm never going to be pregnant and have that lovely newborn experience again. Three is definitely enough for us and in my saner, less hormonal moments, I am 100% sure of this fact.

GA, you sound so relaxed and happy. Its lovely to hear.

MissJ, I loved it when dd was tiny and I could go to gigs with her in the moby with her ear defenders on. There was a tiny newborn in her dad's sling next to us for Hobo Jones at Bearded Theory a couple of weeks back. It really brought back memories of dd at last year's festy. She was asleep too, in her buggy all snuggled up with her 'ear offenders' (as she calls them) on and lots of glowsticks and flashing things, but it wasn't the same as having her strapped to my front like a pint-sized hot-water bottle like she was last year.

I think being emotional at this stage is fairly normal, but if you are concerned, just pop to your GP, fill in the old PND questionnaire and have a chat. Alternatively, could you just try a chat with your HV?

HKZ, good luck for ds's results. The move sounds exciting, especially as my life seems to be either stagnant and dull or stress, stress, stress at the moment. Hope it all goes smoothly for you.

We are starting toilet training next Monday. It was scheduled for this week, but she's been so poorly with this virus, it wouldn't have been fair on her or me. We've invested in one of those toilet seats that has a trainer seat that magnetically fixes into the lid and can just be put down for her to use. I have a thing about potties and neither of the boys ever used one, so am hoping to go straight to the toilet with dd as well. She's ridiculously excited about it and has picked out some Peppa Pig pants and some bright coloured spotty ones. I've also bought a job lot of toilet training reward stickers off ebay. Am dreading it really, don't really remember much about how we did the boys, just that neither one ever had an accident, but then they were almost a year older than dd.

Not looking forward to 12 hours of driving in the camper this summer with a newly toilet trained dd either. Have invested in a travel potty, but its not really an option on the motorway is it?

Right I'd better be off. Have promised myself I will do more with the dcs this holiday.

hi mm

have given up here with potty training dont think she is quite ready
kept having accidents on the floor would sit on the potty but never did anything on it

All this talk about potty training is making me think maybe I should. DS is always talking about wanting to try and wee like DD on the loo. I also have the same type of seat as Moose. But I can't face potty training. DD still has accidents even now. So twice as much washing makes me wince at the thought of it. I want to leave it as late as possible. I'm so lazy aren't I? I just want it to be easy instead of hardwork like DD was is

Tea, I wouldn't push it. If he shows an interest occasionally, let him have a go on the toilet and reward him if he goes, but in my experience most boys are quite a bit older when they are properly dry. I do know a couple who've trained younger, but most tend to be more around 3 years than 2.5. Both my boys were done just over 3 years of age and didn't have any accidents. That's why I'm nervous about it with dd - I can't believe I could be that lucky three times in a row!

That said, ds1 wet the bed regularly right up until we took him off gluten at the age of 8. He literally stopped within 48 hours of taking his last bite of gluten. So I feel your pain. We used to have to lift him and carry him downstairs to the toilet just before we went to bed or we'd be guaranteed an accident - fortunately he's tiny for his age, so dh could still carry him up and downstairs.

Its not laziness, its dread! I have been the same with dd really, finding excuses to put it off.

hi tea and mm

dd2 starts nursery jan so need to make sure she is dry before then
and also off to france beginiing of aug so would be good if dry before then 2

My word ladies, we had disappeared onto page 2 of the postnatal threads!

I guess we are al busy having lives!

Not much to report here, potty training didn't go well - she obviously wasn't ready, so we've shelved it for a couple of weeks.

School, statementing etc continues to be an enormous headache wrt to ds2, so same old, same old really.

Hope all is well with everyone.

GA how's that little one doing?

Tree, when are you going to finish being a good student and get your butt back here to chat?

MissJ, how's the house move going? Have you had J's MRI results yet?

Stripey - how are you these days - starting to bloom yet?

Tink - how's the school support for dd1 going?

Everyone else - we need to regroup or update or this thread is likely to disappear into the great MN archive in the sky - we've all been such a great support to each other over the past 3 years - let's not let it just slip away.

hi mm

potty training a pain isnt it!!

i stopped for a while have just received new potty and potty books which i bought from amazon
just leaving potty in loundge
letting her sit on it if she wants to
using training pants and pampers easy ups
have 2nd drs appmnt tom about dd

ah tink, at least you've got to potty training! like moose's dd on this - c flatly refuses to have anything to do with the potty or the toilet... oh well, i'm sure we'll manage to get her sorted before her teens... i hope the doc's appointment tomorrow is helpful.

moose, am not blooming exactly, but thankfully the nausea is gone. (i never have to have 'morning' sickness again! hurrah!) i am starting to struggle with my clothes, though... think the little one gave me a small thump today - either that or something else has taken up residence. i guess i'll be complaining about my poor sore ribs before you know it (right whingey pregnant person, i am)... i'm sorry your school is still being useless.

perhaps it's the imminence of summer that's driven everyone away from their laptops. (raining here, obviously)

I'm still here but crap at posting. But I will make more effort....

Not much to share really, just hectic life with 2 (how on earth did you lot with more than one manage to keep up with this thread? There is no way I could have managed another post-natal thread.) And plus it's the busy time for the business. And my laptop is sooooo slow. Those are my excuses anyway!

No potty training here; am going to try at the end of the month when on holiday with my sister and mother so they can act as back up. I think he will be fine actually, I am just being lazy.

How are you feeling stripey? When is EDD?

Hello Ladies! Sorry for having gone awol for a bit; it seems the only time I have to be on here is around 7pm my time and the site is down.

Potty training. DD has thankfully not reverted as I thought and was told she would after NB came. She gets completely freaked out about peeing her pants and when she has a poo, she has to have a book and the door closed. She empties it even, (if it has poo, she empties it then brings us the potty to clean.) I had nothing to do with it. Nothing. But am eternally grateful to the Potty Gods for giving me a little one that figured it out on her own.

We are all fine here. DD does take to more temper tantrums, but after today, (DH has been at work today because they just couldn't do without him, ) but DD seems to be just her normal self today. I think DH being around so much is confusing her and his patience (lack of) for her is grating on me TBH. I can't explain it but he just doesn't give her time for things before he gets 'angry', iykwim. He also is driving me mad with some things, like how he loads the dishwasher and cleans up after dinner and such. Grr... I know its just my hormones. I think as well, that he has become accustomed to a very clean home as he keeps making comments about the state of the place lately. I never do any cleaning on his days off and he doesn't 'see' that everyday, I sweep, or vacuum and mop and dust every other day and the bathrooms are done twice a week. Its a routine ingrained in me now after so many years and I think he's just use to it but doesn't realize how much work I do. Anyhow, bloody hormones.

DD2 is fab and so easy going. DD just malls her and she doesn't even flinch, except first thing in the morning, she gets angry with her. Glad to see DD2 is a sleeper, like me. She is now up to 7lbs and filling out nicely. She is a grunter though. Very vocal to say the least.... like me. lol

Hope everyone is doing well. I see some on FB. Moose, you should just open an account, with fake-ish name, so you can see us there too.

Ciao for now.

Hello everyone,

Stripey, good to hear the nausea has gone. Its amazing how quickly you feel movement the second time around isn't it. I can't remember with ds2, but with dd I am convinced I was feeling something from around 13 weeks onwards.

We are passing through Dublin in August, on our way to Galway, as we've crazily booked a week's camping on an eco site, before driving down to Wexford for a week at the family house to recover. We will of course decamp to the house sooner if the West Coast weather isn't friendly. Actually, you could probably help me with a question - I don't want to post here, because it'll give away when we are going on a public forum, iyswim - would it be ok to pm you? Its only a very quick question and boring about food shopping in Ireland.

MissJ and GA you are excused, having a brand new little people as well as toddling first borns is ridiculously time consuming and exhausting.

GA, can you send your dd here to give mine a few potty training tips! Mine was really keen to wear pants and sit on her new toilet seat for a sticker, but didn't manage one wee actually on the toilet. To be fair, she only seemed to be aware of the wee as it started, I don't think she has the necessary advanced awareness yet, so I don't think she's physiologically ready iyswim. I don't want her to find it stressful or upsetting (and she did get upset when she wee'd on her Peppa Pig pants, so I'm just leaving it and will try again in a couple of weeks to see if she's more ready then.

Dd2 sounds lovely and its great that she's a sleeper. Both ds2 and dd were grunters - aw.

Can't face the whole FB rigmarole. Dh has had an account for a few months now, but its a right pita with privacy settings etc. He has some pictures of his birthday party and I think Bearded Theory on there, but none of the dcs. He has however taken to twitter in a big way - now there's another thing I really don't get. Can't stand it myself and get very annoyed by dh's laptop chirping at me everytime there's a tweet.

hi ladies

miss j it certainly is hectic both my girls are so hecticand active never sit still
hi mm have 2nd dr appmnt tonite dh taking her is at 7pm

hi gotart all sounds lovely

missj - edd a bit vague, somewhere between 29 november and 3 december, depending on how you work it out. i think it's in my hospital notes as 30 november. (so that'll be 5 december, then... ) i can imagine it's totally hectic with two (am quailing slightly at the thought...) - i've also signed up to do an ma in the autumn, and we are about to start a family effort to renovate the old family farm house, so it's going to be fun around here, let me tell you... i suspect that my mumsnetting will fall off slightly....

gotart - exceedingly pleased to hear that small girl is a sleeper, i have already had several long discussions with my abdomen concerning this. i do not mind what sort of child the little one is, so long as it does not take after its big sister in the sleep stakes...

moose, by all means pm me, and if we can manage it, we should meet up while you are passing through

Good luck Tink, hope this GP is more sympathetic and reasonable than the last one.

Stripey - sounds like you are going to have a really busy autumn and winter this year, wish I had your energy.

I'll drop you a pm then, thank you.

gp is referring

Great news Tink, just the waiting list to contend with now then. Did he give you any idea how long it might be?

Moose I was of the notion not to pressure the potty training myself and it seemed to be the best way to approach it. Everyone I know that has gone that route has faired well. Just had a potty on hand. I have a twitter account too, but rarely use it.

stripey When I told midwife about DD2's sleeping. she said that lots of seconds just know there isn't the time for them when there's a toddler about. It also amazes me how resilient and tolerant DD2 is with DD1, letting her maul, poke, tug, tickle and kiss constantly.

Hello tink and MJ