July 2010: old-skool, the worm, commando and shuffling on the bum: that's the way crawling's done

[CakeandRoses]

Well that gives them all of about 14 day's worth of chat to get crawling then

chulita me and dh met while we were both in the RAF when I left and became just his "wife" I was never able to integrate with the other forces wives I understand how daunting it can be to try and make it into their clique ( how do they all seem to be so close when everyone is constantly moving). I always felt that if I had a child it would be easier to be accepted do you find this?

I'm glad I'm not the only one who finds it hard when I first saw that you were a forces wife I got a little jolt of omg she's going to hate me but you are in fact lovely good luck with today I'm sure you will do great

I haven't been able to really go to any of the groups round here which is sad because I was sort of hopeing to have a good network of mummy friends by the time I went back to work.

When I drop d of at nursery I sort of stand in the corner by myself and yesterday one of the mums came up to me and invited me to go to the village baby and toddler group. I'm so nervous about going but I'm really going to push myself and it's given me some confidence that at least they'll be one friendly face.

i havent made any friends since becoming a mummy apart from on here! :(
cakes my mil doesnt think it 'right' for bows to have anything but a crew cut but we all know what a twat she is L WILL have locks one day even if i have to get him extensions!!!
tsc I didnt ring mu lady, her number was withheld and i cant find the one piece of paper with her number on it, i took letter to group 1st time for the directions and i have a feeling I chucked it out when i cleaned my car!!! I have left a voice mail with my hv to contact me or her though! Now get off here and do your insurance !!!

I've had all my hair chopped off!!! now im sitting on here with a kitchen covered in my hair eating pate on toast and a bowl of trifle!!!
L keeps waking up at 1 ish every night he isnt hungry he only has a sip of water so what do I do? just cuddle him? or lock him in the cupboard under the stairs where i cant hear him [grn]

Well, I trotted in all smiles (L really didn't want to go, I think she remembered it from before Christmas so she was crying before we even got through the door) and got completely and utterly blanked. There were about 15 mums there, a couple looked over when the door opened and I grinned at them and didn't get one smile back, most didn't even look. I plonked down at the edge of the group (the chairs were all in a circle so there wasn't really room) and managed to get a few words in with one mum, then L started crying so I went to see to her and that mum moved. I tried to talk to one lady who just nodded and gave one word answers and the lady next to her was talking to her in response to things I said It was worse than being ignored completely :( Anyway, I knocked it on the head after trying to chat for an hour to rude, in-bred witches, came home and cried on DH's shoulder.

memphis ooh, gizzus a pic of your new do! wrt to L waking at 1, how long has he been doing that for?

mlic you're braver than me with potty training, L sat on the toilet yesterday and just said 'no, no' and that's as far as we've got. Girls are supposed to be quicker than boys too!

Thanks for the support ladies, it's good to know that you'll chat. Sometimes I feel like I'm just a boring person but I have to remember that back in Glos or Bovi I've got friends who'd happily come round for hours. I'm just feeling really down at the mo

chulita how awful this is a reason i dont want to go to groups!!! i dread this happening to me!! I dont blame you for coming home early. On L waking up all through december he was sleeping 8-6 the day dh went back to work at start of January it started like clockwork everynight, hes not hungry so I just dont get it or have a clue how to stop it!

memphis it t'were me I'd go in, shh him and put his monitor on then leave him for 5 mins and repeat until he goes back to sleep or if it's at the same time every night I'd try going in a bit earlier, ruffling him but not waking him and then seeing if that resets him. It's obviously habit not need that's waking him!

mlic I know they're not the types I'd want to hang out with but they're all the ladies who live around me (we're in a very overlooked estate). It would've been lovely to have met people I got on with who lived nearby.
I'm quite tempted to try L with the potty cos she does go on about it but I agree with you about having to keep going once you've started.

I'm going to try that bf group tomorrow again, I think L's insecurities come from going to so many different groups and her not being able to settle in one and make friends. Hopefully I'll get a couple that we enjoy!

Ooh, and I'm going up to the parents' next week to look at more houses, there's one I really, really like so fingers crossed it's in a good area and it is actually what we're looking for. Going without DH too so that'll be interesting...

chulita will try that tonight going in a bit before, ive got to leave for work at 6.30 so dont want to be up all night! dont like dh's idea of going and holding him til he drops off or bringing him to our room as thats giving him other had habits!!what sort of area you looking at moving too?
a friend was suppost to be selling me her bike trailer as L is still to small for bike seat but the mice have got to it so cant have it dont want to pay full whack for one but dont think i will have a choice as its too late to buy one off net as we need it by monday !!!!

mlic have you seen those pants you can get they are like the washable swim pants with a rubber lining in them, they contain most of the mess but it stays wet on their skin so they know they have had an accident unlike the pull ups that draw the wet from the skin so they dont know they have had an accident? you can get them online and in mothercare think they are called trainer pants? my friend swears by them, or did until her dd was trained?

that's a good idea memphis

i bought some about a year ago when they were on sale. need to dig them out as planning to start felix next week depending on how things go in my guinea pig's-- mlic's household.

good luck this arvo mlic

what silly women chulita. they don't know what a witty, lovely new friend they're missing out on. i'd be inviting you for coffee and 'play-dates' (eeurgh) all the time if we lived closer!

and, woman - i asked you a couple of unanswered questions in my multiple-post spree earlier. not impatient or anything

i'm like a walking advert for MN today. just gave A porridge 'pancakes' recommended on here (v messy but she loved them) and have adopted the curly girl method always raved about on here (i have wavy hair which i can blow-dry mega straight or leave to air-dry surfy wavy)

great, A's just pooed her way thru the second pair of trousers today.

see ya...

Finally getting a minute to post again! Not much to report here. Ellie still not back to herself after injections. I've been so busy the last couple of weeks. I seem to get time to read thread but necer time to post! and what it is that has me so busy i do not know! have few relations coming on sat so looking forward to that?
memphis really hope this holiday does you good. Now that you've talked about the birth out loud you can start dealing with it. Group sounds lovely!
Chulita for you! what a pack of stuck up bitches! do you have friends in the area that you want to move to? o haven't made any mummy friends either . There's no groups here though. The woman across the road from me had her baby a month after me but i knew her already. I don't make friends easily either. I don't have the confidence to just talk to people i dont know and i get quite nervous too. I just dont know what to say to people! but i am a good friend to all my friends. I think i'm boring too. And now i'm starting to sound like a whinge bag whoops .
Right better get back to cleaning this house. Also have a brazilian booked for this eve....ouch

Ok cakes now you need to tell me about the pancakes and curly girl method....!!

cakes i need the porridge pancakes explaining to me the sound like L might be interesting in them!! but he wouldnt feed himself the lazy git, i had to hold rice cakes earlier for him!!!
dh has put my gliding feeding chair upstairs to rock L if he wakes, I now have a pile of crap in the corner and nothing to hide it!!!

A bit belated (the thread is moving fast today!) but am I the only one that's quietly amused about the fact that Samson must have his hair cut short..?

mlic so glad you saw him.

Potty-training - we had accidents in clothes for a few days - and then she just "got it" - I mean she still had the occcasional accident but not often, I don't know why she suddenly got it, she just did.

Chulita sorry toddler gorup so shit, they can just vary so much, We have 2 in the ara I'm in, the places they are held in are about 2 minutes walk from each other, one is crap, have tried it quite a few times and no one ever talks to me, have given up on it now. The other one - two minutes walk away - is full of lovely people, pretty much everyone chats to everyone else, us mums go out for drinks and curries together now and then, we have meet-ups in the school holidays when playgroup isn't on. I have made virtually all my mum friends through that group, yet the other one is rubbish.

Did a market research group last night, easy money, 2 hours talking about sparkling wine for 45 quid.

sorry cake, your earlier posts didn't pop up earlier I've been having silly issues with the computer/internet today as you might have noticed L didn't react to the magic goo so I've whacked it on a couple of times and I'll cover her with it before bed tonight. It's infected at the mo so it might need something to get rid of that before we see any difference, we're off to the GPs tomorrow. As to how long we get to stay, it all depends on 'them' really, the first place DH was supposed to be there 3 years and stayed 5, the last place we were there 12 months and this place is supposed to be 3 years.

memphis tbh the only place this has happened is at an army place and they're renowned for being horribly cliquey. Most toddler groups are lovely but these tend to be 'I'm not talking to you cos your husband's the wrong rank/in the wrong unit/got the wrong cap badge'
We're looking around the Chester/Wrexham area. Most of my friends live in Hertfordshire/Dorset and we're seriously priced out of there. My parents are in Wrexham and my sister's in Liverpool. If we move there we can work on getting my brothers up :)

dylthan I hadn't realised you were a forces wife! I don't find it any easier with children, in the last place all my friends were civvies. Sometimes DH and I really want to quit and have a 'normal' life!

mlic you've inspired L, right now she's sitting starkers on the potty with a pair of hello kitty pants wrapped around one foot saying 'wee, wee' but I don't think she's got the idea at all. She's been on at me to sit on the toilet for a couple of days, I'm trying to hold her off though cos it's not the best time to be potty training!

mlic that must have been scary, I always have visions of kids running in front of my car when Im driving past a school or something.

chulita I'm an ex-forces wife now and I can honestly say civvy street is working out so much better for us. It was harder for dh to adjust to then me but like I said I never felt like I fitted in.

You a much braver women then me for daring to enter the "witches coven" I'm just sorry that they were such bitches but to me it just proves that your an absolute gem of a lady. Kind, careing and thoughtful and not a complete gobshite like the rest of them

Memphis I can second that the majority of playgroups are not like this.

mlic Dylan took an absouloute age to potty train don't feel disheartened I now it's hard and frustrating but in our case it was just a case of practice makes perfect

mlic totally at that re the little boy. I'd have cried my eyes out too.

well done for spotting him.

ok, porridge 'pancakes', tis an old thread but was linked to via the blw that mlic, hot and i are on.

curly girl i am on my third or fourth day of conditioner-only washing and my hair looks good, not at all weighed down or greasy. i usually shampoo every day and it's naturally oily

chulita and dylthan are forces wives often horrid then? if so, why would that be?

my uncle was an army officer but both of his wives seemed nice (he was divorced before he remarried btw!)

on my father's side there's all sorts of naval captains and stuff and they were universally awful (woman in each port sort) but the wives were nice!

on the subject of playgroups... my name is cake and i have never attended a playgroup.

dunno why, have been to plenty of classes and stuff instead tho and i've been lucky as none had vipers or witches