September 2010: windy bums, weaning starts to loom!

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A starter for 10 on our Sept 2010 babies as their first Christmas comes nearer! Can't believe we're there already; I was barely pregnant last Xmas!

Sassy I weaned DS1 at 18 weeks. He was two weeks overdue, I was told to take that into account, and he was a big baby. We just took it really slow. Usually its 2/3 days of a food before you introduce another one etc. We stayed on rice for almost 10 days just building up to two tsps. He really needed it and was satisfied straight away. DS2 was weaned at 20 weeks and tho we went a little faster it was still steady. you can always try and if after a couple of days you feel its not working or was too early then just stop for another while.

Hit the threadmill today! Groan! But DH was delighted Was looking at my old jeans today and just thought this is screwed up! I have carried and given birth to 3 lovely children. I nurture them, survive on 4 hours sleep for them, loose myself in them....I do enough, I DESERVE to fit in those jeans without having to additionally torture myself to do it! Its a mans world.

Ooooh clumsy i love that buggy. I must say i got bored of my first pram way sooner than i thought. I still like it but the new one i bought the other week is so much lighter and easy to push and grace loves being able to see something other than me!!

I've decided to start driving lessons soon, i've never really thought driving was for me, im not very confident with things like that but my life would be so much easier if i could drive so im going to give it a go. Gonna go and get a provisional form tomorrow and as soon as thats sorted im booking some lessons before i lose my nerve!

Firstly: Happy New Year everyone.

Just been catching up, Beadit so sorry you´and little Jack had such a crappy Christmas
Chelle Hope your feeling better, dont beat yourself up about being ill. Like Cinammon says being a mum is the hardest (and best ) thing, take time out to get better, both you and little one will benefit from it.

Saoirse YANBU, DS didn´t sleep over until he was 2.5 yrs old!!! And he´s only slept out (without us) twice. Its up to each person with what they feel comfortable with.

Banana Did you get to see a nurse/DR in the end? How are things?

Maia isn´t settling too well, she sleeps ok when Im in with her but won´t sleep for long on her own at all. In the day she´ll nap in the moses for an hour beofre waking and at night she´ll settle around 9pm ish, but keeps waking till I eventually get in to go to sleep. She used to sleep much better on her own, and will mammoth nap if im out with her in the sling.

Sex isn´t too bad, not as regular as we´d like but then a 4mth and 2yr old dont help. We usually use the spare room, as I cant bring myself to do it with maia in the room, it just feels wrong! Hoping this year will be better as with the pregnancy last year was sadly lacking.
at your DP Sassy, you need to remind him of the old saying flattery gets you evrywhere (is that right?)

Oooh forgot to say, we're thinking of trying grace on solids soon, gonna wait till maybe 4 and a half months but she's draining 5-6 8oz bottles a day. She sleeps well at night but i honestly think she'll be ready for solids soon. She can't take her eyes off us when we're eating and she does chewing motions with her mouth while she's watching us. It's very cute! I'm just going to try her on baby poridge or something and see how she goes!

Grace 15 + 6

mammy i just 'found' you on fb!

right,who's awake?! whadda ya think of this buggysnuggle too much red for my red buggy?!

someone,please,im going mental trying to choose!

Clumsy i think thats really nice, im assuming your buggy is quite a bright red but the snuggle thing is quite a deep red so probably not too much. I think a black one would look nice as well.

clumsy i wanted the britax buggy but we couldn't quite stretch to it. Nevermind as I love my mamas and papas tandem, would like to get my city double back off friend and try them in that but not holding any hope.

Lucy has started noticing us eat but it is just something they do, it doesn't mean they are ready for food. I'm going to hold out till 6 months at least. DC3 still uses her highchair and will probably sulk if I put Lucy in it.
We had nearly a full nights sleep with Lucy in the bed. She is still asleep with DP as her body clock is a bit skewed, once the kids are back at school on Thursday she will get used to waking up at 7.30 again.

MammyG That is a horrendous charge to see a Dr, can you get health insurance to cut down the cost? I suppose we are so lucky getting it free, even if we have to wait day for an appointment

clumsy i wanted the britax buggy but we couldn't quite stretch to it. Nevermind as I love my mamas and papas tandem, would like to get my city double back off friend and try them in that but not holding any hope.

Lucy has started noticing us eat but it is just something they do, it doesn't mean they are ready for food. I'm going to hold out till 6 months at least. DC3 still uses her highchair and will probably sulk if I put Lucy in it.
We had nearly a full nights sleep with Lucy in the bed. She is still asleep with DP as her body clock is a bit skewed, once the kids are back at school on Thursday she will get used to waking up at 7.30 again.

MammyG That is a horrendous charge to see a Dr, can you get health insurance to cut down the cost? I suppose we are so lucky getting it free, even if we have to wait day for an appointment

clumsy, let us know what you think when you try Arlo in the Amby! We've just got back from being at Mum & Dad's over the holidays so Aphras out of the travel cot and back into the Amby last night - I know she was really tired when she went to bed but it was so great to see how much easier & quicker she seems to sleep in the hammock.

Aphra 17 + 6

oh,i didnt know you had one comix Arlo is quite a good sleeper anyway,but prefers to be held so i thought this might just settle him into sleeping alone sometimes

debs i managed to get the britax very cheap from the boots sale,im also a bit of a buggy addict so im always buying and selling them

i aggree to about the fasination with food,it doesnt always mean they're ready for it,they get all the nutrients they need from milk,if you start giving them too much food it can fill there tummys,and crowd out the milk and they dont get much nutrition from it. i would never wean before 6 mo,but thats just me
beacause im lazy and i want to blw again instead of messing about with puree!

newmum thanks its between that red one a black one with white spots with a waterproof outer and a sripey one with a khaki coloured waterproof outer...im going mad trying to choose

oops Arlo is 4 months old today

Clumsy Still post. Olly sleeps really well & I still post. I just don't comment on those bits!
I'm with you on the weaning thing too. I started Toby at 21 weeks & it was too soon. He didn't actually take to solids till he was 6/7 months & on finger foods & it didn't help with him being sick. It just caused more mess & stained clothes. I'm definately waiting and gonna try this blw lark!!!!!

Sassy dh bought me some scales & an excercise dvd for Christmas! Good job we're like you and your dp!!

debs I've got a city double! I love love love it! Its the most impractical buggy for getting in & out of doors but I love being able to have Olly in the pram and Toby facing me!

Mammy I think my friend would have a nervous breakdown if we had to pay to see the Dr! Her 2 los have practically lived on antibiotics since birth. She's always taking them to the Dr I don't joke when I say one of them is there on a weekly basis!

Well, normal service resumes today. Dh is back at work & its just me & my boys. Its been a fantastic 2 weeks but I am pleased to get back to normal!

Olly 18wks

Hi all, grace is being a bit of a bugger today, think she might be missing daddy he's back at work today. Im applying for my provisional driving license today so hopefully i'll start having lessons in a few weeks

Regarding the weaning thing, i admit i am a bit clueless when it comes to things like that but my mum and DP's mum have both commented that they think Grace will be ready for food before 6 months. Like i said we're going to give it a few more weeks at least and we're only going to give her very basic stuff but whats the worst that can happen. If she's not ready we'll stop and wait until she is.

Grace 16 weeks today

newmum alot of the 'older' generation shall i say, are pretty convinced baby's need 'real' food,as they were told to wean at 4 months when they had babys,since then there have been studies proving a conection bettween early weaning and problems in later life such as ibs.
if you feel you are clueless and so are following the advice of pepole who weaned there own babys probaly more than 20 years ago,i would say you need to get clued up try to do some research on BLW vs early weaning etc...i could give you some links,but i am bias!!
alot of pepole i know who have weaned early do have problems.
im not trying to bully you into not weaning,you are perfectly entiteld to compleatley ignore me!
just maybe do some research yourself?
dont wean just beacause you mil and mum think you should.
right
i'll shut up now,
promise...

clumsy I have a pushchair addiction too! Luckily I've bought them all second hand or been given them so not spent much. In fact I bought a quinny travel system, decided I don't really like it and sold it for twice what I paid for it!! Now DP wants this one but I think £315 is an awful lot of money so I'm desperately hoping it'll go into the sale soon, fingers crossed!

Feel free to post about how well your LOs are sleeping, those whose are. We may seeth with envy, but I'm sure they find other ways to torture challenge you! I was going to post yesterday offering sympathy to chelle and saying that Louis seemed to be slowly getting better again, going for 3-4 hours, but I got distracted. Louis must have known though as he decided that it was necessary to feed every 1.5 hours or so from 10pm-7am. I am sooo tired today and DP has gone back to work

As for sex, we're averaging about once a fortnight, so by the sounds of it we're not doing too badly . I had a cs though so I wasn't so worried about pain, and we have a spare room. I know DP would like more, but I'm just so bloody knackered all the time..

Love the buggysnuggle clumsy. My pram is all black (was the only colour they had in stock of the model I wanted) but I have a fantastic multicoloured stripy blanket that my mum knitted that brightens it up

I have a question about routines (we still don't have even a vague one). Do people wake their LOs up at the same time each morning? We don't and he wakes anytime between 6 and 9 most days. I'm wondering if getting up at the same time each day might help nap times etc become more regular..

Louis, 18 weeks tomorrow

saoirse mamas and papas buggys are awful quality...imo (and alot of other peoples)
the bugaboo be is a good alternative (try ebay 2nd hand for a good deal)or a seed pil (again ebay) or the britax b-smart...

maple awh,thats lovely...my mum knit a blanket once,it was terrible,wonky,terrible coulor scheme,and it frayed![bless her

clumsy I asked my mum for bright and tasteless and she ran with it. It's definitely so-bad-it's-good

see,now i want a picture!

it sounds brilliant

clumsy, yes, we've got an Amby (my brother passed it on though we have to return it when we're done). Very pleased with it!

mapletrees, routine, good question. We've also been thinking about this, to try to get one more organized for when I go back to work later in the year (probably not until about July but still I might have odd days here and there before then).

Currently we bathe Aphra at about 9:30 pm, then she feeds until she's ready to sleep at about 10:30 pm (but we're going to move this earlier in the evening as she does sound like she's tired before then). She then wakes a couple of times in the night and I give her a feed at about 8 or 9 am. She has a nap in the morning after her second feed (maybe sometime about 11 ish normally though today it was much earlier, more like 10 to 10:30 am). And she's currently having a good long nap - from 1 pm to now! Yay! She probably won't have another nap until her bath I should think. Maybe we can make tonight's bath a bit earlier than last night...

Right well, I am really sad and love researching, so I have spent the last few hours looking up stuff to do with weaning! I think my personal stance is that i wouldn't automatically start weaning just cos they are 4 months, but neither would i steadfastlet wait till 6 months either. Not sure if that makes me bias or not?!

I have found the actually study done by the WHO and also lots of other studies done with regards to allergies/asthma/obesity/IBS etc.

And it my humble opinion the two conclusions have been mixed and twisted and put into babycare books.

The WHO concludes that there are no significant problems with exclusively breastfeeding for 6 months, along the lines of growth and length, and that there are benefits to do with intestional infections and losing weight in mothers. (which is a problem for developing countries, but helpful for overweight mums in developed countries!) They found no benefits of introducing food between the age of 4 and 6 months, apart from improved iron in some, and they felt that could be given via vitamin drops instead.

I have looked at quite a few other studies with regards to allergies and everyone of them says that these allergies are caused by introducing food before 4 months. I didn't find one single study that says they have found introducing food between 4 and 6 months causes allergies.

It would seem people have read the WHO encourages exclusive breast feeding for 6 months and that weaning early (they have took this to mean before WHO recomends,ie, 6 months instead of before 4 months) causes allergies and come up with the conclusion that weaning before 6 months is bad.

Also, the WHO findings only relate to exclusively breast fed babies. What of ff babies? I can't see that there would be any benefit in ff exclusively to 6 months for them? But i will look into it. I will post some of the links but want to post this before i lose it!

On the subject of sleep. Yes this will make some of you but I'm a bit worried that Olly sleeps too much. Its actually easier to say when he's awake rather than asleep. An average day, he's awake from 7-9, 11-1pm, 3-4.30 and 5-6.30. Thats a total of 7 hours a day. Is that acceptable

I think weaning is a pretty emotive subject & is something that only the parents can decide however, I'd also be wary of what the older generation say. My Gran in law wanted to give Olly coffee yesterday & mil suggested putting the equivalent of farline (whatever that is) in his bottle because I said he'd started taking 7oz. The fact that he's perfectly settled inbetween feeds is irrelevant. her exact words were "you should put farline in his bottle rather than mess around with more milk!" erm.........OK!!!!!

I think it is emotive too, and purely a parental decision. It's unfortunate though when the facts gets twisted and make parents feel bad or wrong for doing stuff. I saw a woman who was at the end of her tether the other day cos her baby wouldn't sleep and she was asking about controlled crying. The response was brutal. Basically it went that controlled crying is psychologically damaging, neglect and you should never do it! Poor woman. Apparently, (here we go again) there are studies showing this. I looked into it, and once again, there are studies showing that babies are psychologically damaged when left to cry. But they were done on babies left to cry all the time, not controlled crying. There was no evidence on damage in controlled crying babies. People just sprout what they read in books as the gospel. It drives me mad and is so unsupportive. That poor woman never posted back on that thread.

Anyway, here are some links- if you are interested. x

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