August 2010 - new thread ladies!

[Chulita]

New thread cos we've nearly filled the last one!

Hello everyone!
This is such a quiet thread, we were right old gasbags when we were pg

S wakes up still at night but not every 2 hours anymore thank goodness. I'm not going to do CIO or CC just yet cos he's very low on the old weight curve. I can manage one or two wakings for the moment anyway. He's eating loads of solids though and looks to be trying to drop all milk if at all possible (except of course through the night) so I reckon we'll be lucky to even get to 12 months bf.

dave you've been away a while! glad cio seems to be working for you.

Cherry. I don't know if you remember but I fell pregnant when I was younger and I was taking microgynon. I took it religiously every night at 9.30 and it failed on us. So do be careful!

That is a bit scary, I used to use microgynon. Still haven't sorted out contraception post birth (not been necessary much). I'm reluctant to go on the mini pill as my periods haven't come back yet and so I feel like I'd rather leave my hormones alone, so we've been making do with condoms which we don't really like but oh well, as I say, it doesn't come up much! (Although planning to move J into his own room this weekend -eek- so maybe that will change).

Has anyone read 'Solve your Child's Sleep Problems' by Richard Ferber? It's quite an old book I think. I've just read some of it and think we going to give his methods a go - aiming to cut out night feeds and teach J to self settle. Am prepared for some crying and hoping we'll be able to see it through.

It was very scary! I just fell into that very small failure %. I'd been on it for 3 yrs with no problems. I'm still way too tired to be worrying about contraception lol

I'm on the minipill and it's been fine - although again, it's not really that necessary too often .
E has been in her room nearly a week now and evenings, apart from the first night, have been pretty hellish. Last night was much better - but it sounds awful when you describe it, asleep at 7.15pm for half an hour, asleep again about 8.10pm for nearly an hour, asleep at 9pm until just before 10pm, then another feed, then sleep until 3.30am. The improvement last night was that she didn't ping awake and become impossible to put down. So we are probably going to do some controlled crying tonight. I'm not trying to eliminate the night feeds yet as she's not eating that much yet, just get rid of this ridiculous up and down all evening. Plan is if she feeds to sleep at the beginning of the night, that's fine, we'll pop her down asleep, but any wakings before I guess 3 hours after her feed we will do the CC thing. Am kind of dreading it but I'm just finding it too exhausting. Going to do every 5 mins for the first night, then do 5/10/15 and so on the second night. Does that sound reasonable?

Wish me luck.

Hi belly, we had same prob with twins ie waking up all time in evenings and we did cc at 25wks. it did work in 3 days. first night was hardest. if you are sure it's just habit which it probably is then give it a try. A less harsh way to do it is every time you go in pick her for up to 1minute for a cuddle, no feeding though, then put her back down. Yes leave for 2 mins, then 5 then 10 then 20, I wouldn't leave for more than 20 at a time, and if your instince tells you to go back in more often then do. The key is getting her to go to sleep on her own, it doesn't really matter how often you go back in as long as she falls asleep without being rocked or fed in the end. Good luck!

Having threatened D with CC he went to bed at 7pm last night, woke once at 10pm then slept till 8am . I really needed it after a week of 3 poorly babs!

Hello all, glad to hear some of you are getting some sleep! We're not doing too badly on the sleep front - J has two good naps a day and then goes to sleep fairly happily at 7pm. He wakes when we come to bed at 11ish so I feed him then, and usually again at about 3ish. He then wakes at about 6.30 and we bring him into bed with us, though he doesn't usually want a feed then, he's too excited and keen to get on with the day! I must go and wake him in a moment, he's been asleep since 1.30 and I don't like him to sleep past 4pm. It's the second day in a row I'll have had to wake him - I should perhaps try to get him to sleep earlier tomorrow. It is bliss now when he has a good long afternoon nap, it gives me so much time to do housework/chill out.

Hi all,

feeling a bit sick to my stomach here at hearing E crying so much but she appears to be asleep after only 30 minutes of CC. I fed her, put her down awake with the cot mobile on. About 5-10mins after I put her down she started crying, then I went in after 5 mins, then 5 mins, then 10 mins, then after another 10 mins she was quiet. Haven't gone in to check she is asleep in case I wake her, but have put the baby monitor back on.

I didn't expect it to be so quick but it felt against all natural instincts to go in, see her crying so much and not pick her up. But I knew she wasn't hungry cos she had 4oz expressed BM then a breastfeed, which she had only quickly. Not sure I can cope with doing it again if she wakes before I'm planning to feed her...

Think I'll have a glass of wine, feel a bit shaky.

It is horrid isn't it? I find it easier to do stuff rather than just sitting there listening iyswim? Easier to listen to them crying whilst loading the dishy/clearing the highchair etc than clock watching.

Belly you can give her a quick cuddle if you want . It is really hard but teaching her to sleep is a gift for both of you. 30 mins is really good!

Unfortunately, I tiptoed in 30 mins after she apparently fell asleep to check she was okay and that set her off again. We are now about 20 mins into the second set of crying. Am trying to do stuff but now keep hearing her crying ringing in my ears....

we did it last night too belly. It's tough isn't it. He went to sleep with only about 5 minutes whinging but then woke at 9.05 (not planning to feed til 10.15) and cried for 40 mins before going back to sleep. I want him to feed minimum every 3 hours but couldn't do cc in the night as he's still in our room but we're moving him out today.

How did your night go in the end belly? I find even after he's stopped crying I can hear him crying in my head :(

He's nice and chirpy this morning though and rolled over for DH for the first time :)

I know what you mean about the crying in your head! Okay, we had about 30 mins first off, then 30 mins when she was asleep/quiet, then I disturbed her and she cried for just over 20 mins. She then woke at 12.15am and I fed her (over 5 hours since she fed so good), woke at 3am and I left her for a couple of minutes, not crying but grizzling a bit, and she fell back to sleep. Then feed at 5.30am. I also had to change her nappy as she'd done a mega poo, nice, so ended up putting her back down awake and she self-settled with no crying until we got up at 9am.

And I've just put her down for a nap in the cot and she self-settled .

She's been in a good mood this morning too, and she seemed fine when I went in in the night for the night feeds.

I was expecting there to be a lot more crying but I almost caved after the first 5 mins cos I've never let her cry like that before but she seems completely unaffected, got a good night's sleep and I got to spend all evening, bar a couple of checks, with my DH. I had to switch the baby monitor off and turn the telly on quite loud so I could barely hear the crying though, otherwise I think I might not have been able to do it. Hopefully it will be quicker tonight. Must buy more .

that's great belly :)
Wish me luck for tonight - first night in own room and I'm not going to feed him more than 3 hourly

Good luck Marzi! I accidentally just fed Elodie to sleep (she was v tired as only did 2ish hours of naps rather than three) so we will start doing the controlled crying on first waking. I probably should have just got DH to put her down when she stopped halfway through the bottle but I wanted to make sure she def wasn't hungry.

We've had a really nice day, went for a walk along the river then popped into a pub for and . E did really wel at lunch as well which is kind of BLW buffet, managed to actually eat some cheese, broccoli and breadstick. Thinking of giving her first taste of meat tomorrow (chicken), any thoughts on best way of preparing it for bambino?

Okay, she woke about 20 mins after I put her down, I picked her up, burped her, and she was asleep within 15 mins. Mind you, that was only half an hour ago, let's see what the rest of the night holds. Wishing sleepy thoughts to all your LOs.

Good luck Belly!

:( we had an awful night. J has a bit of a cough at the mo which hadn't been bothering him before but it kept waking him up in the night. He went to sleep at bedtime fine and only woke once before 10.15 but after that for most of the night he woke avery 5-15 minutes and cried for a few minutes each time. We gave him calpol at 11.15 and 4.00. After I fed him at 4 he projectile vomited so I was worried he was too worked up to feed or sleep I brought him into bed with me then and he slept til 6.30 then woke up, fed a bit and cried a lot so DH took him out for a walk to get him to sleep. He's been asleep now since 7.30 (and I'm full to bursting) so clearly tired out poor thing. Don't know what to do tonight :(

Oh marzi, you poor thing. Maybe best to leave it a couple of nights until you're sure he's better? Our night went really well - she woke at just before 11pm (largely because someone slammed the front door of the flat upstairs) and I fed her, then she slept til after 4am, fed her again and I think she woke when I put her down but I left her to settle herself. We got up around 8.30am.

Last night we were able to cook dinner after she went to sleep rather than eating v quickly at 6pm, we watched the telly, and spent all evening together. I'm so pleased that we haven't had to face hours of crying, it's just amazing that it's improved so quickly.

Right now, E is going mad for her broccoli

Argh, I wish I had obeyed my own rule never to make any claims about your baby because they are instantly proved not to be true! Tonight's CC is going terribly, we're already more than an hour in and she's not showing much sign of winding down. Didn't breastfeed her after she refused halfway through her bottle as I didn't want her to feed to sleep again, so now I'm worried she might be hungry... Not sure how much longer I can take. Have Top Gear on v loud and the extractor fan on while I cook up a chicken meal to whizz up for Elodie to try and distract me but I feel awful .

I gave her calpol before bedtime to make sure she was fine in terms of teething/temp raised through crying.

It's been such a lovely day too, she had proper baby hysterics when my DH sort of fell over and then he continued doing it for about 10 mins to make her laugh. Right, time to check her again.

No crying.... maybe she's finally settled.

Sorry for incessant posting, really need to pour out how I'm feeling to someone

Belly - F slept through on the 3rd and 4th nights of 'sleep training' but then on the 5th/6th/7th nights has been waking 3 times and crying for up to 2hrs. Last night was better, DH went to him at 11ish, then he woke at 4 and 6.30 so not too bad. We are going to persevere though. You are not alone, it is not forever

Hi everyone :)

Just shipped the kids off on the school bus to their daily grind . They think it's such hard work...

I admire all of you who are persevering with CC or CIO - I tried it for only one night but it caused a row between dh and I. Got to admit tho, I'm glad we stopped cos I'm we're weak and soft and can't bear to hear him crying :(. Makes me feel neglectful (which of course none of us are!) So I fear C may be spoiled but I couldn't bear cc with S or R either, maybe it's just me... He does sleep through tho, last feed is usually between 10-11pm and he sleeps til about 7:30-8am ish.

chulita I know what you mean about it being quiet (although I like it this way cos I can keep up!), compared to our 'thread a month' ante-natal chattiness

vix No I don't remember that at all, how scary! (Although I would be secretly hoping for it to fail on us - damn broodiness). When dh and I got together I forgot to take the pill twice in the same month and thats how we got our dd S!!

neenz dh is proposing we stick to condoms for now (yuk yuk yuk) until he has time to attend doctors for the snip referral :(:(:(. His message is loud and clear, I just don't want to hear it, unfair of me I know but I can't help it.
Actually, I wonder which of us will be pregnant again first? (Us ladies obviously, not dh or I, that would be silly )

Latest news in CherryPie land however is....we're getting a puppy!! A beautiful baby dalmation, we've named her Alaska and we're all sooooooo excited to pick her up on 19th March!!!! She's spoiled already . I've literally just bought her a diamante initial 'A' charm for her collar, just gonna go find a nice tag for her now that we can have engraved for her.
Never thought I'd ever want a puppy of any sort but I just fell in love with her :).

Have a lovely day ladies xxx

belly keep posting, as you said they don't remember the next day and it will get better. I've not started with S but I don't want to yet.

cherrypie yay for the puppy! I'd like one but I'll never, ever convince DH, not in a million years.

We're hoping to start ttc in a coupla months, I need to shift this stone of babyweight before getting pg again!

Wow Chulita a couple of months? .

I have too much weight to lose also before even thinking about mentioning ttc to dh again, I've bveen thinking about Spring 2012, that way C will be at least 2yo before his baby brother/sister comes along. (In my dreams.....)

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