dec 2008- the one where they all turn 2...probably.

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Sorry bit boring I know but I didn't want to make any reference to spot as I don't want to jinx her and have her baby come early, then it would be my fault. Also didn't want the mad rush at the end of the thread. This way we've had plenty of time.

Right i think I can post now. Trying to get DS2 off to sleep. He slept for 3 hours today after a particularly energetic music tots session, that he insisted on attending,dressed as a pirate.

Got a bit peaved in DS1's group lesson today. It's a mixed ability class and the idea is to get together with all the kids his teacher has and do all the stuff they are learning at their different levels, encourage each other and have a bit of fun. There is one little boy who is only just 4, I think he may even be younger, and he barrels around the class, pretty much out of control and his mum just sits watching and completely ignores his behaviour. Today the kids were all playing a little easy piece together and this kid was coming very close to pocking DS1's eye out. He only has a pretend practice violin and bow as he is still a bit too out of control to have a real one. The teacher was trying to raine him in.a bit but putting a little toy on his head to challenge him to stay still. At one stage another little boy was playing a duet with the teacher and they were stood opposite each other and the kids barreled through them, his mum didn't seem to notice. He did it a second time but this time was headed for the door. His mum suddenly jumped to attention as the door opens to a corridor with stairs at the end, and instead of going around the teacher and boy playing, just barreled through them also. Usually I bring DS2 to the class to watch and he wanders around a bit a stands next to the kids playing. The teacher quite likes this. He's only 23 months and although he can be a Bugger at times, many times, he seems a complete saint of a child compared to this kid.

Hey something very sweet though, I mentioned earlier WW3 was kicking off. I was on MN whilst DS's were tiding up their toys. DS1 was doing a good job while DS2 was being a bit cheeky. They ended up clashing so I took DS2 into the bathroom and started running the bath. He was screaming and angry and ran back into the livingroom screaming at DS1. I sorted out the bath bits then walked back into boys, to find them calm and happy. DS1 instead of clashing with DS2, found a favourite book of his and was sitting with him on the couch talking about the pictures in the book. So so grown up and sweet.

I meant to say it was DS1's group violin class, not just some random class.

Wow, Veg your DS1 is pretty amazing. You must be so proud! Feel for you with the violin lesson caper. Do you think the teacher is close to saying anything to the other mum - or could you have a word with the teacher. It's not fair for one child to disrupt the others so completely.

Hi Kiwi, good to see you . Poor DD and poor you, I know exactly what you mean about the ill whingeing, it totally grates on your nerves then you feel guilty for wishing they'd shut up as they're poorly. Plus the cabin fever of not being able to get out. Have you and DP managed to share having the days off? It's really annoying being self-employed as you have to make the time up at night for work, but at least you don't have to feel bad taking time off from an office.

DB I hope you are out and having a nice time and the DCs are better.

WG I'm sorry DH is feeling low again, it really affects you too, and mixed in with hormones is not a great place to be. Glad the scan looked ok though - and can I be the first to place a bet on it being a boy? Surely the law of averages and all that can't mean I'm the only purveyor of testosterone?

I can't believe I'm actually writing this but T has another ear and sinus infection, temp back up again. FFS we only finished the last course of antibiotics on Tuesday! Plus I have a sore throat and cough now, so it's gonna be another top weekend here. I spoke to the doc on the phone and he said it must be viral as it would be unlikely to catch another bacterial infection so soon after finishing the amoxycillin, but essentially said I had to suck it up and that T was just prone to them. How do I get a referral to ENT when the docs are happy to say it's 'normal'. 3 ear infections in 2 months? Surely not...

Be back later - but just wanted to ask about this mumsnet mobile? Can't see any link about it. Is it only for iphone?
Really quickly too - Spot that's not good. Just said to dh and tell me to shut the heck up if you want (no offence taken) I know he's no GP and just a bone guy but he reckons NO kid gets sick that much - ignore me if you want, truly, but he's worried T's got other issues going on with immune system which are being overlooked. And that's just from the odd time I've asked him when you've posted. But clearly he doesn't know all the story or heard it all etc...Back in a bit.

I'm sorry Spot but I think your gonna have to hassle a referral out of them. You can either make another appointment and just tell them you are not happy and you want to be referred to either an ENT or a respiratory specialist (am I wrong in thinking you've seen one before) or you could front up at A&E with him and ask to see a pediatrician. Does your local hospital have a pediatric department or specific kids A&E. I have a friend who is an old paeds colleague who lives down your way now I can ask what is available down there. Do you have any walk in centers down there.

Rubes the mobile site won't let me post so I've gone back to using the old site.

DH agree's with Vag Spot (Vag spot sounds a bit rude ) He says insist on a referral. Should be easy - you're very pregnant.
Sorry just quick again but Vag, I want to try it, how do you get to the mobile?

Someone said earlier to put an m. in front of the address. Initially the website opened straight into the mobile site so I'm not really sure about getting to it from the site.

Thanks Rubes and I am v grateful for you asking DH about it, please don't shut the heck up! I did ask the A&E doc we saw a couple of weeks ago if she thought there were any underlying immune issues and she said prob not, but doesn't hurt to get checked out.

I think you're right, Vag I just need to be more assertive. Every single GP I see says something different (some say viral, some say bacterial, some say treat with antibiotics, other say avoid). I just want to speak to a specialist. We are seeing a respiratory consultant but not til Jan - he's not worried about T but the two times he's seen him he's been on pretty good form.

Will make an appt on Mon and threaten to give birth in the room if I don't get referral.

Good Idea Spot. Just cry until they give it to you. Won't take long, and sounds like you won't have to act much. Oh I will always ask dh if you want - I just hate to if anyone thinks "oh he doesn't know the history / it's not his area etc etc" but just take it as an extra opinion since it's not his specialty, but he's been right about all my various health stuff as I always go to the GP assuming he doesn't know! You've had such a tough time, and being pregnant and being about to have a brand newbie imminently, you're holding up really well.
Are you any closer to deciding on where to live? or is that the farthest from your mind...
Deids, that toolbox gets good reviews. Might just get the garage thing though, and of course dh wants to get him a balance bike.

Beans sounds ike a nice day you had - I love those kind of days too! but for some reason, whenever I stay in my PJ's or plan to not go out anywhere, I slob around and someone shows up unexpectedly, and I'm all disheveled and looking like something the cat dragged in! Always the way, but these days I don't care as much!

Lady, O's baloons sound great - I bet she was thrilled! Let us know how her day went.

I woke up feeling awful yet again, but decided to go to toddler group due to the delightful blue sky (and I clearly couldn't feel the temps at that point) but I told ds - well bribed him to get dressed by mentioning toddler group, so had to at that point! Good decision. Such a better day if I get out. he had fun, and we stopped at a mums house for a bite on the way home.
came home and ds crashed for 2 hours and dd happily watched TV while I swept all the leaves up out front, and kept checking on her every 5 mins through the window. So cute! By the 10th check, she was sound asleep
So then I decided to start sorting out the back garden and get all the outdoor kiddie stuff cleaned off and will finish tomorrow and put it all in the shed for the Winter! (still feels weird to "put things away for the Winter! )

DH spent the eve wiring up some speakers properly so tomorrow night I'm totally pumped for Xfactor with full surround sound working as it should - Sat night - what happened? God I'm sad! So who is joining me?

Oh and Lady - I sat up late (in bed) yet again as dbro had texted me and asked if I had tuned in to the Gabba and wanted to know if I had lived out of the country long enough to be rooting for the Brits perish the thought! he was just joking I'm assuming so we had a bit of text tennis comparing the coverage between here and there. DBro was suppose to be there, but couldn't go last minute. I must say, I didn't watch much, as unless it's a one dayer, it's like watching paint dry for me
Made me homesick though but I'm going home in Feb!

Am in bed with horrid vomiting virus. O has it too. More when I have some energy. Bleurrgh. Have lovely weekends, brilliant girls.

Off to the parents for Christmas lunch. But just wanted to pop in and say poor T spot and poor lady and O.

Rubes I will be back for xfactor later. Wagner really has to go this wk surely.

Now where is this mobile mumsnet do we need to download it for apple apps?

Oh no Lady get well soon.
I'm still ill-ish. Keep waking up snot tastic and dreadful, take some medicine and feel ok then probably do too much and the cycle continues...

DH gone to work. I'm going to order food for when he gets home so a late dinner but one that just appears. See you here for X-factor Jam!

lady Hope you are feeling better soon, and O!

spot Do as Rubes and vag says and demand a referal, its not right that they are so dismissive of a toddler that has been ill so much. Thinking of you.

*Can't wait for tonights X Factor, I'm having an indian and something sparkling (that would be drink not my clothes or anything!)

Had a wonderful night away last night and although he isn't everyone's cup of tea Peter Kay was bloody hilarious. Seriously, I have not laughed that much in years! But just to annoy me the DC's stayed at my mums last night. They both went to bed at 7pm (DD said she was tired from school so went early and both woke at 8.30am. I have never known either of them sleep past 7.30, obviously I am doing something wrong.

LadyT am really sorry I missed O's bday, and more sorry you're both poorly. Hope you're feeling better soon. Have copied your balloons idea for DD on Monday. Must remember to make the poor mite a cake.

I have just finished the third of the stupid psychometric tests I have to do to apply for my own frickin job. Sigh. Think it might be a little too obvious that i'm really hacked off with it all. Am starting to think that redundancy would definitely be better.

Am also really looking forward to x-factor. But fully embraced my ideal saturday night being dh and I watching tv . In fact even when I went out a lot I always liked staying in on a saturday.

Spot I really hope you get your referral sorted. Is so frustrating when you get so many different opinions from different docs. Do get referred to the allergy people as well. And at idea of threatening to give birth.

Daisy am glad you enjoyed peter kay and had a good night out. I think he's v funny.

Should really be practicing numerical reasoning (have managed to bunk of bath and bed time in order to). Wish me luck. I could do this sort of stuff when I was a kid but frankly can't be assed now. I also don't really know how to work out % or do long division, it turns out. I think cheerfulness having children has rotted my mind.

Am sure there's more I've missed - will try and catch up later when I've done my homework. Avo how was your DD2 this week? I remembered something else - when DD was really kicking off I used to go first, and then the transition from DH to our nanny was better. But again no help to you at the other end of the day.

Evening All,

Well I have to say only Matt has been bearable tonight. The others suck. Why does everyone think One Direction are so good? Only one of them can really sing and one of the others is so sullen he scares me.

LadyT, I am so sorry you are ill. As you know, you are living my nightmare. You poor thing. I hope it passes quickly. At least it might help with the weight loss!

DB, glad you had a fun night out and ill health didn't ruin it.

Spot, so sorry T is ill again. It does sound relentless. We have been referred to NHS paediatricians for much less so I would fight for your rights. Any more thought been had on the move back to the big smoke?

Urbane, why on earth do you have to do psychometric tests & numerical tests to keep your job? Is that true across your Department? I feel like I am a bit sheltered from the worst of the pressure on the public sector although we are slowly being dragged in the same direction. I am terrified now as there is no way I could pass those tests again. They were hard enough when I was 21 and sharp of mind. Gulp. Thanks for yr tips on the nanny handover process btw. They are much appreciated.

Jolly, have you had your appt with the kidney specialist yet? I hope it went well.

I am still feeling pretty down about my work life balance. DD2 is still v unsettled and I thought her nanny was a bit rough with her on Thurs which of course is now playing on my mind. Work is crazy. I didn't even get my day off yesterday and tomorrow I am of to Paris for another week working there. I won't see the kids at all, but at least DD2 won't have to cope with the transitions. I think we are going to pull out of the purchase of the big house. We are meant to exchange next week so it's now or never. I just can't justify it, I want to work less and I won't have that option.

Just posting quickly between tech support works on our TV (DH ) built me up for this XFactor night with surround sound working properly however turns out he half arsed fixed it then went to work and now my viewing is dotted with interruptions of blue screens and adio adjustments etc etc Oh well. I have seen up to Cher so far and I quite liked her. One Direction suck Avo - I've never liked them, it's just Simon building them up and then teeny boppers voting.
Will be back about your worries AVO

Matt to win by a country mile..... Cher a close second (sorry she's really grown on me, the skankyness remains with her but she can sing / perform well) Katie is good too, but she's just not likeable, Rebecca was dissapointing tonight, mary forgettable, One Direction are just a bunch of twats pumped up by Simon, and Wagner..... What can I say. That's my round up

Happy Sunday morning ladies.

Hope your feeling a teeny bit better at least Lady, is DP around at all next week? Feeling snotty is not ever fun but feeling queezy and doing all the associated expulsions involved with a tummy bug is horrid. Thinking of you. I feel very bad, I have DD2's present and she is nearly 2 months old but I haven't sent it yet.

Sympathies for you tests Urbs, I am terrible at long devision. At work when we do drug calculations for the kids doses other nurses just work it out in their heads but I have to use a calculator. I've got a maths block.

Deids so glad you had a great time. I love Peter Kay, comedy is always a great night out.

Pubes how you feeling today, any chance you can take it easy for a few hours, you really need it. Sit down with a hot toddy.

Spot I feel so sorry for poor MrT, and you too, I used to suffer with ear infections as a child and they are really nasty. I also think you should insist on the referral, not least because if it is viral you don't want nasty viruses around your new DS2. Good luck

Hi Kiwi, nice to see you

Avo your dilemma sounds really tricky. If you reduce your working days, would your nanny be happy to reduce her work load too, or would you need to find alternative childcare? Someone once told me a good way of looking at tricky decisions is think how you'd feel about each outcome in 10 minutes time, 10 weeks, 10 months and 10 years - it might put a different perspective on it

Get well soon LadyT and O, sounds really grim

I didn't get the iphone last week, I was worried that my phone would be stopped for a bit while everything swapped over, just as I stranded myself in a snowdrift on the way home (it took me 2.5 hours to get to work on Thursday!) Reading about all the hoo ha with the mobile site, I think I'll wait until you all work it out and then you can tell me what to do! DD and I had fun in the snow yesterday - she loves stomping in it, and we got the sledge out and she got used to sitting up and hanging on. So we set off to deliver a birthday card to a friend, but didn't get that far before DD decided to pull the sledge and her beloved baby sitting in it - it took hours and we almost froze!

I had a bit of a moment last night, DD was happily eating her fish pie and got about a third of the way through, when she spotted her party bag from earlier and remembered there was cake in it. I insisted on one more spoonful of fish before the cake and we ended up having a stand off. In the end she happily had a few more spoonfuls using my fork and I thought 'phew I've won that one' - and then felt terrible for thinking of it as a competition or battle, to be won. She is so strong willed, and will normally only comply on her own terms (eg I'll ask her to sit down and she'll say 'no' and then sit down a minute later, when it looks like it was her idea). Urgh, I can see life being an endless battlefield, and I hate feeling like I have to get one over her. Oh well, we had a lovely snuggle in bed this morning, so I'm happier again today.

Happy Sundays everyone, and happy birthday to Matthew, Sarah and Lily for this week x

For some bizarre reason when I refreshed it didn't give me the last two posts.

Poor Avo, this is all so stressful for you, your exchanging next week, but if your both feeling its not right then that is hard. Can you sit down together and talk about it today?

Rubes we had something similar with our TV in UK the sound was something to do with the virgin box and I think the colour thing was fixed with a change to the HD settings. I can't really remember what but he found it by looking up something on t'internet.

Lady hope you and O are feeling a little biet better than last night?
Thanks Vagooli, I'm slightly better thismorning. Helped that ds was nice enough to sleep in till 7 then wake up rather pleasant and play for a bit in his room. DH went back to work so not too much chance to relax until kiddies nap.
No the blue screen thing was just the set up screen I mean - as he kept fiddling with the speaker settings in the Ad breaks as it still wasn't working properly so it was meant to be blue at that point!

Oh how funny was Anne Widdecome last night
Hello Z

AVO zoes idea sounds good. But I am sorry you are struggling with all of this. To be honest it could just be a phase with DD2 have you tried being really hard line with her about it. I know its not the ideal solution but if maybe you were very matter of fact with her?? Otherwise I think that not going ahead with the big house sounds like a sensible option. Maybe stay where you are for 2yrs then reasses then?

Oh Rubes the bunged up feel ok on drugs do too much then feel like death warmed up is rubbish. Hot toddy that will help.

Blimey got home from ma & pas last night and stayed up far too late to watch Xfactor. CHer is good but I just cant get past her skanky look. The too much makeup that weird snarl she does and the fawning all the judges do over her. MAtt clear winner for me. But I think the teenyboppers with their mobiles will give him a run for his money in voting for One Direction. Agree Rubes not Rebeccas best wk. And well Wagner you know my opinion on him.

Back more for later have to go shower and get the fellas dressed DH out running, boring! Got to go and pick him up later then off to a Winter fair in the next village.

Oh and Effie I did chuckle at your Witham triangle. as you know we are fairly close to there. The mobile signals are pants you enter our village and it pretty much disappears. If you walk around the village and look at everyones windowsills there are always mobiles perched on the sills trying to get a signal Mobile phone thiefs would have a field day.

Oh also I think I will pull DS1 out of nursery for WW. Just got to double check it doesnt clash with the million other Christmassy trips to London we have planned.
Right really shower now.

Good morning all :).

Avo: thinking of you all. Only you and DH can make the decision, and I hope you can find some peace of mind.

Rubes: I find myself in the unlikely event of agreeing with Jon Snow on the q of not watching x factor etc . This worries me.

Zoe: hope you're keeping warm! No snow here yet (boo). I want to go sledging!

LadyT: hope you're feeling better.

Spot: I am about on Thursday, but let me know if that clashes with appointments and so on. Am able to mobilise at short notice :).