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How exciting for a new thread - two FESHspring due shortly!

muser I'm not sure "The Fear" ever goes away in all honesty. I'm counting down weeks & months until he's out of SIDS danger. After that I'll be scared of when he walks to school with his friends or gets a bicycle. :-/ I have developed a heightened sense of denial to deal with this. Sorry, not what you needed to hear I know. But there are so many good things and the medical care should anything go wrong is amazing. Look at your nephew for instance! 20 years ago Bear probably wouldn't have made it - and possibly me either.

Poos are ace - and perfect for lyrics involving "back, sac and crack".

moo I too can't believe that this enormous baybee was once in my tum.

Same here! When I think of it like that the state my tum is in at the mo is probably half decent. Aside from the bulge. Trust me the days of the bulge are numbered. Once Xmas is out the way!!!!

Muse is normal to worry/fret and suffer from anxiety. I was one of the worst for it. Take each day and week at a time and if you have concerns (regardless of whether they turn out to be trivial or not) deffo call your MW or
local labour ward. I also had some news that knocked me for six and I turned into a wreck til the ESH gals
spoke sense into me. Peace of mind is the main thing and I did whatever I needed to do to get it. HTH.

silv ref napping, something has just occurred - you're not downing lots of caffeinated drinks are you? I found Rastus's napping improved greatly when I stopped drinking normal coffee (except first thing in the morning. NOTHING will stop me having that!) - even now he sleeps terribly if I've drunk a lot of coke. Just a thought. Also if you take a lot of speed it will have the same effect

Interesting point cunts . Silv try drinking plenty of red wine, that'll send him into the land of nod.

Ah now you see I was thwarted with that because it makes Rastus sick. I've not tried lots of gin yet though

cunt when you started this up to bed put down in the day thing, how long did it take to actually get sleep? I am at the end of my tether and need to sort out his sleeping, have got to teach him to self settle, considering pu/pd.

muser the way their skin is so soft you can barely feel it when you touch it. The first hello mummy smile in the morning. When he breaks off a feed to grin at you. When he's all milk drunk and dopey. The first time he grabbed at something. Just looking at him and thinking "I made this". When other people say nice things about your baybee (ie in a cafe once I had fed him and put him back in his pram. He grizzled for about 30 secs and then looked around and grinned at everyone. A lady left about 10 mins later, and stopped and said "what a lovely baby, I didn't think he was going to like being put down again but he was a little angel" sob).

cos it took about a week to get the message across - it doesn't always work and that's how I know I've timed it wrong. I started by sticking rigidly to the two hour rule, or slightly earlier if he was showing signs of tiredness. Go through the routine (take him away from play to sit on my knee for five minutes, turn telly down, start mentioning sleepytime, go upstairs/to bedroom - we count up the stairs - close curtains, go through bedtime script, put down, walk out). I have to say there was an element of managed crying. The first day we left him for 3 mins before going up, the next day 5 mins, the 3rd day 7 mins and then never any longer than 10 mins because he had it cracked in a week.

After this it wasn't quite so important to observe the two hour thing as he knew when the routine started that it was sleepytime. So I think really it's the inital reinforcement which takes time and is a pain, but pays dividends in the end (and you can use it when they wake up in the night too, as long as you catch them before they properly wake up. Which I never seem to!)

and how old was he?> I'm definitely going to have to do sometthin as his slleping is gettin g worse not better.

He was about 3.5 months and we laboured through the 4 month sleep regression which camea bit early for us. We didn't do PUPD because R doesn't like to be cuddled when he's tired. We do re-tuck in tight and bottom patting (he sleeps on his front)

Just diving in when I get a gap between demanding child and baby-who-never-sleeps. My day has gone something like this: Dress TT in angel outfit and drag her screaming and kicking to her pre-school nativity dress rehearsal, yelling 'I don't want to go!' Collect her an hour and a half later yelling 'I don't want to come home!' My brief interlude of peace and quiet was spent feeding LG and getting him off to sleep. Get home and LG wakes back up. He slept for the 10 minutes it took me to collect TT. Make lunch, because TT is hungry. Hand it to her and she says 'I don't want that,' even though I have made exactly what she asked for. Spend next hour telling her she has to eat her lunch before she can have a yoghurt for afters. Feed LG. Try to get him off to sleep. The next 3 hours are spent getting LG off to sleep, dashing out to give various animals water LG waking up, TT wailing she wants to make gingerbread snowmen, repeat ad nauseum. Finally manage to get gingerbread dough made. TT states she does NOT want to make gingerbread snowmen. LG still hasn't slept for more than 10 minutes at a stretch. I don't even know why I bother - I could just plonk them both in front of the TV and do whatever I want instead!

Anyway - LG and TT both hungry now, so off to try and satisfy the contrary masses again.

What a bunch o' bitches - secret meetings in that there London 'n' stuff. Tsk! I hope you all had a lovely time eating cake and secretly hoping your Touche Eclait hadn't worn off and that you all looked youthful and perky.

boxer Look on the bright side. You have an escape, you can go to the stables and I'd put money on if you lock yourself in the stable with the top bolt, TT can't reach it.

"Naps" are going very well this end now, in fact we often have to race back in to the bedroom 2 minutes later because we assume he's deid, when in actual fact he's just gone to sleep as prescribed. Like cunty there is a small element of CC, although I won't leave him for more than a few minutes because I don't want it escalating to hysterical - because of course it takes so long to come back down from that. If he's crying I'll walk in, say "mummy's here", tuck his blankets again, tell him sweet nothings, turn on his Shaun the sheep white noise thing, wind up his mobile, pop his dummy back in, stroke his head and say "see you soon, mummy loves you". Pretty much the same routine every time. I am making eye contact and I think some suggest not doing that, but I'm not going to ignore him. He's not crying just to wind me up/piss me off.

Lots of funny raspberries, face-pulling going on right now wrt teef I suspect.

Anyone else TTC yet? I figure may as well get the sleep-deprived years over in one go and then face the world again.

TTC hahahahahhahahha pfffffffffffffffffffffffffft

No. Not now or ever. Can't afford more than one and that's the troof.

And ref the meet up alps there was no cake, although I left early because Rastus was mithering. I fully expect the rest of them had cake and possibly went out clubbing after I had gone...

yeah it was a MASSIVE afternoon - we polished off botty of gin and a duty free carton of marlboro lights whilst the baybees talked between themselves... Was lovely to finally put faces to names and get oot and aboot (says agoraphobic fool). I even BF for 7 whole minutes! Alpy your earrs should have been burning but in a nice way...

well I ended up going back to gp early evening... I was worried about sleepiness/reduced appetite and just wanted her to tell me to STFU and stop worrying. Did she? Nope, sent us to kids a&e where he was born and left at 4am having had lung/heart/blood tests galore. so his jaundice is high, he may have infection (blood results this morning) and heart murmur. considering gp was concerned about his breathing this was pretty fucking worrying. anyway they are not overly concerned in terms of keeping him there and luckily all to be followed up as outpatient, I think the murmur is 'innocent' (wtf does that mean) and likelt to sort out soon.

My nerves are in bits. I keep thinkiing I am being over cautious but then things happen. Its making me more nervous as a new mum not more confident IYSWIM. have had some good sleep though since 4 and he is being little cuddly angel.

please to provide details of white noise stuff???

If we conceived again now, child 2 would be in the same school year as Clint........ So not yet! My ideal gap would be 3 years I think, but given how long it took last time, I'm not sure. I'm already craving a newborn again (damn hormones) but have just been "chatting" to Clint - it is so exciting to watch him learn and develop.

X-post! Gawd Moo, just goes to show you have good instincts and are not "over-cautious" at all. Terrifying. Hope you are self-medicating with cake. I'm around today if you fancy a break/chat etc. But sounds like you may just want to sleep. Poor babymoo.

Poor little babymoo It's horrible when you see them being mucked about with and you can't do anything to help but thank god you went with your instincts and got him checked out. Rastus had the runs when he was a week or so old and I'm so glad we took him to A&E - I was in half a mind that I was fussing over nowt and that it's just that I didn't know how baybees worked.

So the moral is, never leave it to chance. I hope he's on the mend soon and that you have plenty of crap to eat.

moo That sounds awful and I don't know anything about it at all, although I have read here on mn of tiny ones having heart murmers that they simply grow out of. JB just said he was in army with someone who had a murmer depending on day/who took reading.

Talk about me all you like, but pls not to forget to send cake?

Thanks lovelies. I am glad we went, although was horrid. He has had so many tests/ ECGs/ x rays now in 4 short weeks and it is awful seeing him distressed when they do it. I think you are right an innocent murmur is just one that is common and they grow out of. The good news is that his echo from before was structurally normal so it;s unlikely to be a hole or anything more sinister.

Thanks vaggy for offer. We are Lying Low today and yes amazingly Mr Moo's work colleague had a basket of cakes and biscuits delivered yesterday, so guess what I'm having for lunch today!!!

Have any of you had thrush? Do you get a sort of soreish burning generalised feeling down there? Wish I hadn't worn bloody tight jeans yesterday...

Does.Not.Compute! Since pregnancy all my clothes are tight!

I hate my wardrobe. Went to work yday and looked like a heffer. My weirdo ML cover woman wouldn't leave me alone and kept giving me the once over prolly thinking ooooh fat still then! so I made the most of every opp to say I have been housebound and inactive for six weeks whilst at the same time wrenching my Mat jeans up from sliding down off my ass.

I iz poorly. Feel shite. Bad cold. Hope not mastitis as boobs gone hard/engorged and want to die. Pls to send healing cake. Pls.

Also had an hours sleep last night.

mooter you did the right thing. Peace of mind is priceless and my HV said do not feel as if you are wasting anyone's time. That's their issue.

Healing cake? I shall locate a brown cafe immediately and post in a tupperware box inside a coffee lined lead box.

Blimey, I've just had a spreadable goats cheese and crispy bacon sandwich and it was lush. All the time I was making it (

oh moo your poor wee baybee :( you were right to be concerned though, well done for going and not thinking you were being silly first time mummy. mucho hugs big fat slap.

So we have The Boys second set of jabs in an hour, yay. :(

We were getting tough on sleep last night and it went pretty well I think. He cried himself to sleep pretty quicky, but in my arms. When he was almost asleep I put him down, he did one more quick cry again and straight off. We had to do the whole thing again an hour later, but that was even quicker, so think it's going ok so far. He then slept till past 11 (that was at 9) when he was hungry.