July 2010: Our babies are growing, they're grabbing their toys and soon they'll be throwing!

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new thread ladies xx

spirael all sounds normal after certain jabs. The calpol was fine to give and sounds as tho it did the trick. Just keep an eye on her just as you normally would after jabs

chulita sorry but your description did make me snort - that was me with ds for about the first year. Thankfully (for me), dd has the silent version of reflux so is rarely sick.

tsc didn't know you had a step-daughter. Is she not actually pg then? (Confused and nosey!)

kk Aurelia (now 13 weeks) rolled ridiculously early at 4 weeks (back to front) but hasn't done so recently as the poor thing is so rarely laid in a position where she can (due to the reflux), I did think I ought to try giving her some time lying flat just before a feed is due tho.

She first smiled at 5 weeks but wasn't doing it all day until more like 7 weeks. She's been laughing for 2 weeks. Ds was very early to smile/laugh so she's seemed a bit slow in comparison! Like him, she had a very strong neck right from birth and her head is now very stable.

Sleepwise, she's usually sleeping thru with a dream feed (I actually wake her up tho) so 7.30pm to 7amish with a feed at 11pmish. She's so much better a sleeper than F that I can't see me being brave enough to drop the dream feed til she's 18! ;-) She sleeps for about 5 - 6 hours in the day too which is bloody lovely!

think ellie was about 4 or 5 weeks when she first smiled. started cooing at 6 or 7 weeks, found her hands around then too, found her feet last week or the week before, rolled over yesterday,sleep wise she's good. i ordered a baby journal today so i can start writing these milestones down cos its so easy to forget these things! so the first few will be a guess but i wont tell her that...! im really crap at getting photos too. take the odd one on my phone but thats it. cant even find the bloody charger for my camera

Can we cross Frankie off too after last night's performance?

aw, poor mindy. calpol prob best thing for her - hope she has a good sleep and wakes up cheerful.

we survived the big trip to york and leeds yesterday. had to change a few leaky nappies in odd places, and wished i'd brought more clean clothes for the boy. the main point of the trip was to visit a friend in hospital. i had checked whether it was ok to bring a baby and they said yes, but the nurse on duty was a bit uncertain. she offered to give him a cuddle but i said he needed fed - she said she'd feed him but i said i was breastfeeding. then she offered to find me a room to feed in, or to pull the curtains round my friend's bed, so i almost had to insist no, it's fine, i can be discreet and don't mind feeding in public! weird.

Hello,
Im interested in everyones lo's development. Devon is defo grasping his toys and pulling things into his mouth, has been smiling for weeks but no laugh yet, he smiles till his face falls in half though so dont think we are far away. Hes not rolling over, no where near yet and his neck is still not great but he has found his hands and keeps getting himself in a finger lock. He is really talking with so many expressions too, so funny. I am trying to remember to write it all down but its hard, we have taken loads and loads of pics though, hes just changing so much and so quickly.
Devons got his first cold, boooo!! so he is also calpol'd up and saline dropped too, just going to do that 'last' feed, he has been up at 3am the last two nights needing to be fed, and he takes 5oz or so, so its not like he only has a bit, do we think they have more if they have a cold?

evening everyone!! hope all the lo's are getting better behaved, i fear Lyndon will be taking over Frankis position in the bad baby club, ive been at work today on my own had 190 customers got home at 6, as soon as i get home Lyndon has screamed and screamed like ive never seen it before, hes got bags under is eyes but still wont sleep, quite happy playing but he likes to chatter loudly so ive given up trying to sleep and got up!!
hes developing well, we get quite a few giggles and he fake coughs then smiles after, i wonder weather he thinks this is a giggle sometimes!? grabbing things all the time and starting holding his rattle yesterday and talks away constantly but no sign whatsoever of trying to roll over,
went to boots last night to buy xas presents bought lots of things for me a lyndon not much for others!! mum pushed L while i had a trolly and i could hear him chattering and shouting 2 aisles away, there was another 15 week old and put them face to face other baby stared ans Lwas being so loud he had his eyes shut as he was making as much noise as possible!! had a friend over tonight i bought a chinese, then while i settled L she washed up, cleaned kitchen, dod his bottles put bin out!!! she should come more often! really missing dh now! need more adult conversation!!

hi all, nice to hear how lo's are all developing. Rileigh has a fake cough much like frankie but also it seems to take the piss out of her gran lol. She gabs like mad, holds her toys, hands and anything she can in her mouth, she has great head control, tries to sit up but doesnt laugh much or rollover except by accident. She doesnt like lying flat due to reflux. How much time do your lo's lie on back or front? R prefers sitting up too nosey for her own good lol.

What you up to this weekend? I am going to ds's footy dance and plan to get drunk yay, sil taking both kids so we get a long lie. Have thought ahead and made big pot of soup so we are fed if i'm hungover. Was ill last night but it went during the day, hoping it doesnt flare back up.

spireal hows m now? mlic are the anti-b's working for w? Wow cakes a likes her sleep lol. Whens dh home memphis? Wish my friends came and did housework lol. Good news dogs back needles you must be relieved. Hows lo's and you chulita? Typical tsc they have the skits when washing machines on the blink. Have you been ok kk? at anyone i have missed hope alls well x

I think A is like my sister personality-wise - a bit lazy and greedy (my sister will admit to still being a bit like that)! Whereas F is just like I was as a baby - anything other than sleeping or eating is good! Interested to know if you think you can already see similarities with your baby and you/family.

kk, tsc and mlic thank you for your lovely compliments on the pics of my two. It's funny cos we thought F was a really beautiful baby but now if we look back at pics, from about 5 months he went thru a right fat head period! I sometimes wonder if we'll do the same with A!

viksam get well hugs for devon

memphis can we all borrow your friend please?!

tsc F's fake cough sounds so cute! It's amazing how quickly they learn how to get attention isn't it?

needle very pleased to hear the dog has returned safely! Are things better with dh too?

mlic I'm sorry! (I would do a nice blush smiley but on silly blackberry not lovely mac at mo) I kinda feel I deserve it with this one as my nights with ds were like having two babies - up every hour was quite normal! Mind you, I know it's not fair if you've had two crappy sleepers. What really isn't fair is a friend who has dcs the same age as my two and both have slept thru (I mean 12 hours, no dream feed) from 12 bloody weeks!

woodlands I agree with tsc, I guess people can't win! I know I've felt a bit offended both ways - when people act like I ought to hide away when bf and then also if they 'expect' me to do it somewhere really uncomfortable and exposed! I guess it's just the choice that you want, some woman don't like bf in public at all whereas other happily pull their top up wherever.

I'm somewhere in the middle, I'll bf almost anywhere but dislike any boob showing at all. I had an out of character moment which made a friend blush recently, we were in a big baby change loo and I had a dress on, it seemed a bit prudish to cover up in front of my friend so just lobbed my breast out of the top of my dress. I think she got more of an eyeful than I was anticpating, bless her!

stac yeah i've been good. and wrt how long we leave them lying down, ellie lies on the ground for a lot of the time she's awake. prob half and half with the bouncer and the floor. she just loves her own space though and loves kicking and rolling. and with tummy time she sometimes loves it and her arms and legs go like mad and other times she hates it and wants back over!

thanks kk think rileigh hates it cos of the reflux but i'll have to persevere.

Not too bad a night here, rileigh went down at 11ish, stirred at 3am but took her dummy and fell over till 6 has had a bottle and is sleeping again. Heres hoping she's getting back into a routine

Hows everyone today? cakes what happened on that other thread has she ignored the advice? X

Morning ladies, i wanted to ask your advice on a difficult situation. Please help!!

My borhter and sister in law just had their second child, gorgeous Isabel was born yesterday weighing 7lb 8oz. They also have Lily who's 2 1/2.

I love my nieces and would do anything for them. However, since i announced i was pregnant with Dreya and her subsequent birth my bro and sis in law think it's acceptable to make racist remarks, jokes and generally bigoted comments regarding black people! I cried about this once before when i was pregnant and my brother asked if he could call my baby sambo or chocolate drop!

Now i've just sat and had another cry this morning as they did the same yesterday while i was visiting to see Isabel.

I have asked them before to keep their racist comments to themselves or better yet stand in a room full of black people and repeat them. I worry that my lovely nieces will row up thinking black people are all jobless, moraless thieves or worse still that i'll have to explain to Dreya that her uncle, aunty and cousins dont like black people.

My mum says dont rock the boat and cause a row but i obviously would protect Dreya above all else.

Please help what should i do?????

Morning all. :) M seems fine this morning, back to her normal self, thanks for the support all!

It took us a little while to get her to settle down last night, she had fun exploding out of a nappy, then spitting up over herself/me/DH/her bedding/2 sleeping bags for an hour or so, then promptly giggled and fell asleep at 9:30pm and stayed asleep until 7:30am.

I've got a Humphrey's Corner baby book for M which I got when I was about 6 weeks along. I have been religiously filling it in though, even through pregnancy with all the names we considered and the scan details. I figure it makes a nice keepsake and may also be useful if/when M has any children so she can reference her own development.

Someone also gave her a photo album book for her naming ceremony though, so I need to start making that at some point as well. Good job I quite enjoy scrap booking-!

M's neck muscles are pretty good now, I don't have to worry about supporting her head much now as she takes care of it herself. She's found her hands and is just about getting her toys to her mouth (or bashing herself on the head...) but has yet to find her feet. Though in her defence, they are quite far away. I know she's found her thumb, but she seems disinclined to suck on it and still spits out a dummy... Bah!

She has about an hour a day on a blanket or her activity mat downstairs. However she doesn't really like being left to her own devices while there, I have to play with her, whereas she's happy enough sitting in her bouncer watching the world go by. She's not too keen on tummy time, but tolerates it in short bursts. I have an inflatable ring that she likes laying over on her tummy (supervised!) which I figure helps her neck muscles strengthen.

Amused at the concept of 'an hour before a feed is due', MLIC. In M's world... That would be the end of the previous feed!! She's such a greedy hungry baby!

Where about in Leeds did you go to, Woodlands? [nosy] I live just a few miles from the city centre.

nixster that is truly awful, no wonder you're upset.

Are your brother and sil usually total fuckwits in the way they behave towards you? This is more than racism imo - they are either just awful people, in which case, racists or not, i'm not sure i personally would have anything more to do with them (if having it out with them didn't help)

Or

If your brother and sil are usually normal, kind people, is it possible that they mean it as a (bloody stupid, ignorant and totally unfunny) joke?

I think your mother is being unreasonable asking you not to rock the boat over something like this. Either she sorts it out, stands back and lets you sort it out, or accepts that you'll have to walk away from a relationship with them.

Good luck with it. Please let us know how you get on!

Sorry, cross posted!

Are they genuinely being nasty, Nixter, or do they think they're trying to be funny?

If they think they're being funny, I'd turn around and ask them (away from their LOs) if they called their first child Lily because she was so pale, and that they ought to nickname their LOs 'washout' or 'pasty'. Also comment that it's a shame they'll never tan that well and how thin and straggly their hair is compared to Dreya's lovely locks.

But it depends whether you think they'd get the point from that and stop.

Fuck sake nixter how horrible are they. My god especially having kids themselves they should know that if they have no arms it doesnt matter. It your CHILD and they actually think they can get away with that. I simcerely hope dreya never hears any of this the poor thing. You've asked them to stop so the only thing to do is be as ignorant as they are and speak to them in the language they seem to understand. Tell them to put up or shut up or just dont bother seeing your beautiful little girl again.
My cousin has a mixed race little girl and to be honest theres been some pretty horrible comments thrown around. Its so rude and hurtful. You poor thing its definately not a nice way to be feeling

nixster i really feel for you, i agree with spirael with that comment very witty and quick, im sure they wouldnt like those comments and may make them see how awful theres are. i had a fall out recently with my sister she has bipolar and my mum said the same dont rock the boat, me being me i did, she has since seen how awful her 'jokes' were, when i was pregnant i had twins 1 was ectopic and had huge risk of mc of other one, i have degenerative condition that i could have passed on, at scan i took my sister too lo was 'waving' when she got out of there i was so relieved he was ok but she rang my brother and said memphis thinks he waved but it was more like spag hands (i fucking hate that word anyway) we all know memphis will have a dopey kid and she will be a terrible mum!! she thought this was funny, i have made friends with her but on the side said to her one more comment i will rip her head off her shoulders! so egardless of what your mum says you go ahead and let rip, its your special time being a new mummy too!!
just been to see hv,L has lost weight, she asked how i was feeling i got upset, she said.... its to be expected with everything going on!! that 3 hv said same thing so i now give up im just destined to be a miserable shit til the end of time!!
oh and cakes my friend also brought me chocs and champagne when i had L! just wished she lived closer, she drove an hour each way after a 10 hr day at work to clean for me!! its quite shameful!!

memphis really sad to hear about your lost twin baby.

I think we'll let you keep your gorgeous friend to yourself given what your sister has been like!

please don't give up getting some help for the pnd. Those HVs should all be shot. Have you tried your GP? (sorry if you've already said you have). I'm not sure what other alternatives there are for you but tsc might know as she knows more than I do about stuff like this.

tsc sorry to keep volunteering you! You didn't disappoint on that other thread though . I would have only said what all the other posters said but I knew it wasn't what was needed by the OP. Sorry you got into a bit of a bust-up over it tho!