July 2010: Our babies are growing, they're grabbing their toys and soon they'll be throwing!

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new thread ladies xx

And just while we'r ont the subject of what works for people i think sometimes we'r maybe too pushy in what we think everybody should be doing. I've just noticed on the weaning front that a couple of people have started and its as if they have nearly been afraid to say it on here in case they get shot down. Everyone only has their own hv's to listen to and tgey're the ones who we need to go by. Sorry if that sounded bitchy-that wasnt my intention. And i dont mean this as a comparisom to mlic situation cos it is absolutely no comparison to what happened. Its just something that i've been rhinking about.
Hope docs goes ok for you today memphis.
Stac congrats to ds!! you have every reason to be proud!

mlic just messaged you on fb

aw mlic i am so sorry you felt you had to justify your relationship and for what happened to you. I agree totally with you being overprotective as is why my kids have never stayed outwith the family. Your husband must be a great source of support for you. Thank you for trusting us enough to tell us what you went through x

Thanks about the congrats for ds. I am chuffed. I also started R on solids only a few spoonfulls but as you saw from her feeding she is a grubber lol.

dh dont feel bad we have all been there hun, i caught myself telling R to be quiet in the same situation as you i then felt guilty as it was her teeth giving her hassle x

I'm sorry to hear what you've been through MLIC. :( I honestly can't imagine what that must be like and really can't offer any advice, but I hope you'll be able find peace for yourself somehow.

Thanks for the clarification re the weaning info, Cake and Chulita! I was a bit worried that people might be reaching for their judgeypants and I was going to get an earful (eyeful?). I'm glad that wasn't the case. :)

Back at work again today and tomorrow for my KIT days! It's sunny here too, DesperateHousewife, after raining for the past week. Typical, now that I'm sat in the office and can't go for a walk with M!

Incidentally, can M have a stint in the Bad Baby corner? I took her out to see Despicable Me at the cinema yesterday and she screamed the whole time! I have no idea what the problem was, I took her out of the cinema twice and she calmed down with no problem, took her back in and cue more screaming! The only thing I can think is that it was a bit noisy for her..? I saw practically none of the film and I feel really bad about the din for everyone else. :(

Of course she then fed quietly on me for two hours in a row in the afternoon... Why couldn't she do that at the cinema?? Grr!

mlic so sorry about what happened to you, im not surprised you dont want others looking after your ds's!! L has found his feet too, constantly pulling on them and wants to be held on feet all the time, im thinking of my bingo wings shrinking!!
right then had to wait to see doc for ....1 hour!! he got called out on an emergency but they didnt tell me!! saw hv while i waited, shes happy with Lyndon but knew something was wrong, i just broke down said everything and finished it with a chavvy mother wail of and no one will FUCKING listen to my please for help!! she couldnt believe i feel like i do, im seeing her again next week, i told her doc the other week said feelings like im being strangled are normal for a new mum and she has put in a complaint, she wants me to go to a mums and tots support group that has mums who have/had pnd/anxiety, so when i got into docs i felt a bit empowered by hv and told him everything he said ive got mild depression but huge amounts of anxiety, he has given me a mild anti depressant that is more for anxiety than depression, he said win 2-3 weeks i will go from worrying about everything in life to almost have a dont give a shit attitude, only thing is for next 14 days he want me with someone as much as possible and not to drive much!! cant expect everyone to drop everything for me and well i didnt tell him i am driving 300 miles to cornwall on friday!! so fingers crosseddh can handle me for a few weeks until im me again!!

i meant plea's not please!!!
oh and on the weaning front i gave L pear last night mixed with baby rice and he liked it! he loved it hv says im doing right thing as he has started to not want his milk as hes always throwing up!! L is the 1st baby in my family to not be on rusks on bottle at 3 weeks!

Brilliant memphis and good on you. Hopefully things will start to look up for you now and you'l feel yourself soon. And im sure people wont mind watching out for a couple of weeks.
Mlic its so funny watching them with their feet!! like W Ellie loves being up on the feet too! Her new thing now is shouting! and anybody that talks to her she goes 'raaaaaarrrrrr'. so funny listening to her!.
Anyone know when you can stop using the dr. Browns bottles? they'r seriously annoying. They kust leak all the time....

thank feck they listened memphis about time too. The pnd support group will be good, because they know what your going through and remember we're here for you hun. so proud of you for getting them told

kk rileigh loves shouting too lol and standing. re: the dr browns, i havent found that with them but you could give her a try with other bottles see how she goes

what is the advice on babywalkers now a days? xx

Just been for an early curry with dh and babies, now home and they're tucked up in bed so now looking forward to a cup of tea (yes really) and the apprentice!

tsc what have you decided then - are you going to go out?

memphis well done! Really proud of you for handling it how you have. Is dp pleased? Come on here and let off steam whenever you need to.

mlic you talking about the contraptions the baby sits in to move as opposed to the pushalong ones? I thought the latter were fine?

Hope you can switch off and have a relaxing evening with dh tonight.

needle and er.. Fizzy - I was going to ask how you're doing but mlic's beat me to it!

Yep, that's what I meant albeit explained poorly!

Felix was obsessed with the pushalong ones. Now confiscated so his fave is a toy buggy instead now.

ah - i only looked at the first link and saw it was the one i meant

This is the static kind, non? We borrowed one of these for F and whilst huge and not particularly stylish, it did buy me some time to mumsnet work on the PC once he was crawling.

thanks ladies, think my dr browns bottles dont leak as i use a milk thickner for rileighs reflux

anyone crying at the pride of britain? so nice but heart wrenching

Sorry to crash your thread, but I was looking for feedback on NCT classes if you have a minute. Many thanks

Hi again, sorry for silence yesterday. I wrote a long post, then went back a page to check something then lost the post.

Thank you everyone for your very warm welcome, I am so grateful to you, and so happy I found you all! And a quiet hugs to mlic. I know what you meant too about being able to criticise your DH but others cannot!

Feeling a little better yesterday and today (so far!). Last night I pretty much disengaged from DS and let DH get on with it, and he had him on his lap and was very reluctant to let him go to bed as they were cuddling! A major MAJOR breakthrough! Today I am planning to again just back off a bit and let DH get on with it. I AM very lucky that he is relatively hands on. From the beginning he insisted on sharing the night feeds, even though he hates hate gettting up. But, he phrased that more as helping me rather than doing something the baby needed. I guess I expected him to bond straight away, as he was so keen for us to have a child, and he adores his dogs. I thought it would just carry over, so I think maybe my expectations have to be looked at to.

DS has not found his feet, I am hoping because he is still so fascinated by his hands! But he is shouting at people too. He has really found his voice and is practicing his vocal range. It is so funny to listen to!

Oh to add, i am literally taking things hour by hour now. If I try and think too kuch into the future i fall apart. One thing that stresses me out terribly is thoughts of when DS starts teething and if he is wningy. DH has been wholly unable to ope with him crying at all, he hates it, so I am a bit worried about that. But have decided to deal with it when it happens. :(

Gosh my spelling! That was 'much' not kuch and 'whingy'

Off for coffee, methinks!

fizzy that sound like progress. well done for backing off and letting dh get on with it - not easy i know. the more time dh spends with him, the more he'll bond and start to feel more able to handle the crying.

tbh tho, i think it's pretty normal for men to panic a bit and pass the baby back to the mother if they cry - especially if you're bf (sorry can't remember if you are). Even 2nd time round with an experienced dh, a regular refrain in our household is "Can you take her, I think she's hungry" -er, no, you saw me feed her 20 minutes ago!

mlic any joy with the thickener?

kk meant to say yday: I don't think anyone on here has been judgemental about early weaning - the previous posts were in response to discussions about supposed signs for the need to wean (early waking etc) and that actually they're often not true signs so if you can wait (if there's no other reason such as reflux) then it's better to.

We've (me in particular) have talked about blw because we've found it works v well but by its very nature means starting at 6 months.

Lots of us are also a bit when it comes to relying on HV's advice - many of them are total crapola and give out of date advice at worst and are nice but ineffectual at best. If you've got a good one then you're v lucky - the rest of us have to rely on MN!

Also fizzy are you planning to try to get some help for your suspected pnd? it might well be that everything seems so much better if you can address that.

I've been lucky and haven't had pnd so don't have much info but others on here have and i'm sure will be able to advise you if you have any questions.