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The Final Fruition of the Frolicking Forays for the First Time Frolickers

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Spirael · 30/09/2010 16:18

We came, we saw, we frolicked. Grin

Now our PFB has arrived and we can begin the stressful befuddled guiltridden exhausting wonderful journey of parenthood!

(Or at the very least we can stop bothering the antenatal bunch until they join us!)

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WorrisomeHeart · 26/10/2011 20:13

Just a quick one to add my thoughts

halo Lochie really didn't drop any milk feeds until he went to nursery at 10 months and even then he likes to have midday feed when he's at home with me. I think with BLW it's a natural progression and she'll drop them when she's ready. The important thing at the moment is to explore the solids and not worry about how much is going in her rathe than on the floor!! Don't forget, food is fun until they're one! (and just to prove that, Lochie demolished a good third of Dh's chilli enchilada at lunch today...)

cherry the choking fear does lessen as the baby becomes more accomplished. Also I found it something of a revelation to see how well they deal with solids and moving them around in the mouth. Hope the BLW book gives you some ideas.

Well, it's Lochies birthday today! I just can't believe it - the time has gone so fast. We've had a lovely day at the London Aquarium where Lochie was more interested in running around than looking at the fish! And then a great lunch at Giraffe - I can highly recommend as a family friendly chain, the staff are great with kids. Hope you are all having a nice week.

bunnygirl80 · 27/10/2011 10:36

halo I do find myself stressing about naps when nighttime sleep is bad, as bad day sleep seems to just make the nights worse. When we're in that situation I will try and have a couple of days in the week where we're just at home.

As far as dropping milk feeds, I think he went from 4 daytime feeds to 3 somewhere about the 9month mark. It was a natural progression as his intake of solids increased. He just started taking less and less of his 11am feed but had a full feed at his 3pm feed. I kept offering until he was sleeping through, then stopped the 11am feed and offered at 1pm instead. By the time we dropped a feed he'd stopped bfing so it was easy to see how much/little he was taking. I think he'd been reducing his 11am feed from about 7mths as when I went back to work and tried expressing at that time I never really had much milk and I certainly never got particularly full if I didn't express.

cherry try not to worry too much about choking. And remember there's a big difference between gagging (which they'll do a lot as they get used to moving food around their mouths) and actually choking on something.

worrisome glad Lochie had a good birthday. Can't believe he's already 1 Smile Only 2wks till Will's turn Shock

William is having sleep issues again. Monday night he woke at 11:30pm, and didn't resettle until gone 3am Shock He's then taken at least an hour to settle at bedtime every night this week. Hopefully he snaps out of it soon.

haloflo · 27/10/2011 11:27

bunny That sounds grim bunny. Sometimes it seems as they get older they are capable of long long stretches of awake time at night. Hannah was awake from 9.30 - 11.30 & then 2-4.30 last night so ended up sleeping in til 8.30. The second waking was because she decided to fill her nappy twice, so not really her fault. I miss the days when she could only really stay awake an hour!

worrisome Did you express at work? For comfort or for feeds?

Happy Birthday to Lochie for yesterday! Sounds like you had a lovely day. Well done for getting through the first year. Smile

Thanks both of you for the feed tips. I'll just see how we go for the next month/6 weeks and think about what we are doing a month before i'm back at work. It might be that Hannah needs to be away from me to not demand feeds. No doubt she wont be sleeping through at 9 months although everyday I daren't keep offering the boob in case she wakes up even more!

This morning Hannah was kept amused for half an hour trying to eat sultanas. She is developing her pincer grip but its still very crude. It felt mean watching her struggle but the determination on her face was so cute.

cherrycobbler · 27/10/2011 20:35

Noooo to the period halo I thought the upside of having to feed all night was not having periods for ages! I do live in fear that it will suddenly make an appearance when I'm out in white trousers (not that I wear white trousers except on hols) or in the baby pool or something Blush Hope the move goes ok and not too stressful. Glad that Hannah was also a slow burner with food, I feel very inadequate when I see all the other babies of C's age wolfing down bowls of purée Envy

Oh bunny that sounds tough. Sleep karma dictates that your next baby will be one of those wonder children you hear about that sleep through from 4 weeks.

Happy birthday to Lochie for yesterday WH!! Sounds like a really lovely day, glad you all enjoyed it.

WorrisomeHeart · 27/10/2011 20:45

Thank for the birthday wishes folks!! Pics on my FB profile of Lochie being unimpressed with cake #1... hopefully he'll like the proper one more!!

halo Lochie was ff so I didn't have the expressing issue!! (well after the first three weeks of his life that is!!)

bunnygirl80 · 27/10/2011 23:45

halo it might have been me you were meant to ask about expressing at work. I did it so he could have ebm during the day. I sent 2 bottles into daycare with him, one bm and one formula. I wasn't very successful though - would spend half an hour and only get 60mls or so. At the time I thought I'd just lost the ability to express Hmm but with hindsight it was just proof of how little milk he was drinking in the day. It stressed me out so much I gave up and just sent formula to nursery with him after about 3 wks, and continued to just bf morning and evening until he totally lost interest, refused to feed and I took the decision to stop completely.

cherry I used to worry that AF would just randomly arrive at some really embarrassing moment too. In the end it didn't make an appearance until 2mths after I'd completely weaned Will.

I wouldn't worry too much about how much C's eating. Will was a puree wolfer-downer, but also a finger food monster as well, but lots of his little friends took much longer to show an interest. It seemed like all the girl babies we know were less interested in solids than the boys for some reason

William learnt how to use a spoon properly last week - he can load it all by himself and transfer most of it to his mouth. So of course this week he is rejecting spoons completely Confused I was most impressed that he managed to eat a whole bowl of custard using just his hands Grin

bunnygirl80 · 28/10/2011 05:22

So after months of needing antibiotics for his ears we went to see an ENT surgeon with Will today. Poor thing has got chronic middle ear infections, and a moderate hearing loss as well Sad He's getting grommets put in in 3 weeks time, so hopefully he'll feel better once that's been done.

I was amazed by how clever he is when he had his hearing test done. They made a very loud noise a couple of times, and each time they lit up a box with a little puppet show in. Then when they did the test they played the same noise quietly, and as soon as he heard it he turned his head to look for the puppets Grin I hadn't realised he was that clever!

highheelsandequations · 28/10/2011 15:43

Popping in for a quick rant. Council messed up my maternity pay and I've now been left with £107 for the month. Didn't even bother to tell me either, I found out when checking my bank balance yesterday. Not good, now waiting on them finally sending me my payslips so I can work out exactly what's happened Angry

cherrycobbler · 30/10/2011 09:55

Oh no poor Will Sad Is the hearing loss reversible? Clever boy looking for the puppets!!

What a nightmare re your pay hh hope it gets sorted out soon.

Awful night last night of multiple wake ups and extended awake time, feel like a zombie today (at least it avoids the need to dress up as anything else for my Halloween party today)

bunnygirl80 · 31/10/2011 00:22

hh hope you get your money sorted soon

cherry his hearing should go back to normal once the grommets go in - he basically has fluid in his ears because of the infection, so once it can drain he should be ok. He'll have another hearing test 3wks post-op and if it's not fixed then he'll need a more complicated operation

Hope you get some more sleep soon Smile

William managed 6 steps all by himself at the weekend Grin Unfortunately the steps took him face first into the coffee table, so it was followed by lots of tears. Still it seems like he's well on his way to walking - I predicted he'd be walking by the time he's 1 so he has 11 days to get practising Wink

ToriaPumpkinLantern · 31/10/2011 21:32

Knock knock, can I join in?

Thomas Calder was born on 25th October at 00.02 (missed my cousin's birthday by two minutes!) weighing 9lbs on the button. I was induced in the end at 39+4 due to him getting very big as I had a glucose problem and despite all the stories about inductions taking forever he was born 12 hours and 6 minutes after my pessary!

We've had lots of problems feeding due to his slightly traumatic entrance into this world (I'll post my birth story if you want it but it's not for the faint of heart) and it looks like we're heading for full time FF as expressing and continued attempts at latching is just taking up time and energy that I could be spending with my gorgeous smooshable boy and despite how I felt before having him as long as he's healthy and eating something I find I don't much care where it comes from or how he takes it. Which is good because if I get the disgusted face, waving, flailing arms and screams when I put him to my nipple once more I may just spontaneously combust.

The good news is he sleeps well and despite the feeding problems hasn't lost much weight and he likes skin to skin so we still get plenty of bonding so I don't feel I'm missing too much by not feeding him myself. His cord has healed up nicely and DH has taken to fatherhood like an absolute pro. Not an hour goes by that he doesn't do something that makes me melt Grin

On that note, I must go and sort out his next feed and get off to bed. Lovely to see you all again, I promise to be less me me me next time :)

bunnygirl80 · 01/11/2011 09:56

Welcome toria. Congrats on the birth of Thomas Smile I had a little stalk peek at your birth story on one of your other threads. Glad all is well with you and your gorgeous little bundle now.

Hope you get your feeding problems sorted, whatever decision you take. It turns out there really isn't a medal awarded for bfing (or if there is mine got lost in the post Wink) so just do whatever is working best for you as a family. And utilise the opportunity to get your DH to do all some of the night feeds Grin

It's pretty quiet on here at the moment, as we've kind of moved over to fb so we can all share photos of our beautiful babies - they are a very attractive bunch! If you'd like to join us there send one of us a pm and we can add you to the group.

Will's into double figures on the walking now - 10 steps yesterday Grin We're in birthday countdown mode now - I've got to start planning the food for the party (which we weren't going to have but now has 20 guests Shock) and make the cake. MIL is arriving next week, so also need to ensure the house is clean ready for the white glove inspection

MrsWajs · 01/11/2011 09:59

Congratulations Toria :) Thomas is exactly 6 months younger than Robyn, well give or take a few minutes!! :) Feel free to post your birth story here if you want (I love a good birth story these days!!) Glad you're not stressing too much about feeding, it was the one thing I had the most problems with, Robyn ended up being FF and is no worse for it.

Hi to everyone else, sorry have been a bit AWOL lately, finding it difficult to get the time to post! Still lurking though. DP got made redundant again last week so it's been a bit of a stressful time, I'm so bloody annoyed that it's so close to Christmas, plus the fact that Robyns christening is on 11th December too, it's really not an ideal time to be skint!! But hey ho we'll just muddle on as always, this is the 5th time in a year and a half so we're kinda used to it now!! DP has managed to get some casual work for the next month, maybe two so we'll just have to get by until after Christmas and then I'm back to work anyway.

Robyn can roll now.....and will not stop!! She can only go one way though so is getting very frustrated when she can't turn back! I'm up and down every 2 minutes flipping her back over!

Bunny Yay for 6 steps!! Sore face - not so yay! Poor Will!

Halo Hope the moving is going well?

Cherry Hope you've had a better night?

HH That is crap about mat pay, really not what you need but hopefully it means more money in next pay?? I'm not getting paid for my KIT days until next month which I didn't realise so I had my first official SMP only pay this month - didn't like that at all!

Worrisome Belated happy birthday to Lochie :)

ToriaPumpkin · 01/11/2011 12:51

Oooh, well done Will! Not put off by the bash to the coffee table then :) I can't bear the thought of Thomas walking, I nearly got upset when the midwife pointed out he's already a week old!

MrsWajs sorry to hear about DP, I was made redundant at twenty something weeks. Complete pain in the padded arse so you have my utmost sympathy. Fingers crossed for you something comes along soon. And yay for Robyn learning to roll! :)

HH I've had nothing but trouble with mat pay due to being made redundant but they seem to have it fixed this month Fingers crossed they can give you an explanation (and so money!) soon.

Had the MW round this morning who says we're doing everything right which is a nice thing to hear when you've got a screaming milk monster and people keep giving you conflicting advice on feeding and bathing, dressing, walking, dummies, toys and every other aspect of parenting

I'll post my birth story in a minute, I'm finding it quite cathartic to talk about it all!

ToriaPumpkin · 01/11/2011 12:52

We went in for ten am and proceeded to sit around for an hour before they got to us, this was due to the sheer number of women in for induction that day!

J then decided to get into school as nothing was happening, so left me once they told us what was going to happen and I was hooked up to a trace. Pumpkin was doing absolutely fine so they gave me the pessary at 11.56.

They came back after twenty minutes and told me I was contracting even though I couldn?t feel a thing, just like Braxton Hicks.

At 12.30 they brought me some lunch and I started feeling the contractions. I sat with another girl on the ward whose waters had broken at 29 weeks and was in for observation and we had a chat, she told me how the ward works etc.

After lunch my mum came to see me, she found me sitting on a gym ball with the contractions getting stronger and more frequent. She told me it could still all stop as apparently with Prostin the pains can be deceiving and feck off.

In the time she was there she said I changed completely, and by the time she left when J came back at 4 I was alternating between sitting on the ball and lying on my side on the bed and doing lots of deep breathing. At this point I caved and asked for some paracetemol. When J went away to get something to eat I went for a bath as they said it might ease the pain, and if they were false contractions then they?d probably slow them down and give me a break. It made no difference which I was assured was a good thing.

At six, after I couldn?t eat a thing, they asked me how I was coping, I said I wasn?t anymore, by this point contractions were coming ever 1-2 minutes and lasting 30 seconds so I wasn?t getting a break. I was examined and found to be 4cm dilated so they said since the labour suite was quiet I could go up for some entonox if I wanted. I wanted. As we left I gave a weak smile to the woman in the bed opposite who?d had her first pessary at the same time as me and was having not even a sniff of a contraction. I felt the strangest mix of envy and pity for her at that point!

Once up there they got me changed into a nighty rather than the pyjamas I?d put on before my pessary. This led to a conversation with J who was going through my bag looking for it and when I said ?It?s white, has Winnie The Pooh on it and has green round the edges? he tried to hand me a baby vest.

The entonox did some good but I was put back on a trace as the contractions were so thick and fast and Thomas? heartbeat was soaring. I was offered other pain relief and took a shot of Diamorphine. I?d originally been against it due to the fact Morphine makes me throw up and I didn?t want anything that would cross the placenta but I was starting to struggle even with the entonox and they told me it might slow the contractions a little. They gave me an anti-emetic as well and the stuff was wonderful!

Things are a little hazy from here in, but I remember a conversation about 8.30 where we discussed when I?d next be examined and what would happen then. J asked at what stage my waters would be broken and they said that they wouldn?t do it unless I was quite far on as it makes labour more intense and I was already struggling so much but that they might go by themselves. At just after nine my waters went of their own accord. ?My waters have just gone. Or else I?ve wet myself, but I?m pretty sure I grew out of that.? The mucous plug came with them leading to me being terrified because I was bleeding when I convinced them to let me go to the loo.

There was also a conversation in my head that might have actually been a dream as I?m informed I drifted off a few times once the Morphine kicked in properly that led to ?Come on, help me out here...Swimming.? Unsurprisingly nobody knew what I was on about until I informed them I was talking about the mermen. I also hallucinated a Maypole above my bed that had people dancing around me and announced how best the labour suite should be decorated for Hallowe?en with witch hats made from crepe paper and hula hoops.

At about 10.30-11 I was examined again. I remember being a bit nervous they were going to tell me I?d only gained another cm or so and joking that I?d be massively impressed if I was fully dilated after how long it took to get to 4cm. I was at 10cm. As Thomas had been back to back they asked me to wait a little while before pushing so he could get into the best position. I managed about 40 minutes before telling them I really needed to push. They got me into position and told me to go for it (but took my G&A off me!) I pushed through four contractions before they told me to stop. Which I did, but my body had other ideas and out he came anyway at 12.02, missing my cousin?s birthday by 2 minutes!

They showed him to me, we?d decided to find out the sex for ourselves ?It?s a boy, it?s a boy, did you hear me?!? and allowed me to hold him briefly then things went a bit wrong. He was taken away and paeds were called as he was struggling to breathe. He was given oxygen and stimulated and warmed up and as soon as he had the Vitamin K he perked up. As I was still in third stage (?Is he ok, is he ok, what?s going on??) and a bit wobbly they wrapped him up and gave him to me for a little while. I then passed him to J while they examined me and stitched me up (2nd degree tear due to him coming out Superman style with one hand in front of his face!)

We tried to feed but he wasn?t taking me on so they said we?d try again on the post natal ward.

I left him with J and went off for a shower which was blissful, I lost 300ml of blood from the tear and most of it was attached to my feet and nighty seemingly. I got dressed in new jammies and tied my hair up and they took us down to the ward. J was allowed to stay with us for a little while, while we tried feeding again. He still wasn?t taking it on so we decided to leave it til morning (it was past 3 by this point) and J left us to go home and get some sleep.

We had a relatively quiet night, though he was unsettled following his rather traumatic and fast entrance into the world, I spent most of the night holding him and at one point they just propped me up with cushions and put the bed rails on so that if I fell asleep it wouldn?t be disastrous. I think I got about forty minutes total and that was when one of the midwives managed to settle him for me.

The next morning he was jittery and shaking so they checked his blood sugar and it kept coming up low. He still wouldn?t feed and eventually they asked me if I?d give him formula as otherwise his blood sugar was going to get worse and he?d end up in SCBU. As the day went on he had several blood tests and wouldn?t feed properly, and eventually he was taken to SCBU anyway (in my notes: ?Mother very distressed at thought of baby going to SCBU.? No shit Sherlock!) I was in bits. Absolutely and completely distraught, I?d only had him for 16 hours and they were taking him away. I managed to calm myself, rationally I knew it was the best place for him but I hated them taking him away. Not helped by the fact the paeds consultant was about as useful as a chocolate teapot and had not explained a single thing to me all day.

I went up to see him about 5 and they told me that when he?d gone up he?d had a huge poo, his blood sugar had been absolutely fine and he?d taken a huge feed. They said if he could repeat this then he?d be back with me by the end of the night. I went up again later and they said he could come back down as long as the Dr said he was fit. Personally I think he just wanted to see all the little girls who were in SCBU as he was one of only two boys up there!

I managed a hot bath and some sleep before he came back to me about 11.
The next morning a new paeds dr came to see us and picked up a possible heart murmur. Apparently this is very common in newborns and is due to the way the heart develops and changes after birth. We were taken down for a scan pretty much right away and they said there is nothing to worry about and we?ll be recalled in six weeks to see if the valves are doing what they?re meant to. He also explained the bruises on his face which were due to how fast he hit my pelvic floor apparently!

He still wont feed from me, he can latch but doesn?t like having to suck for the milk, but is taking EBM and formula and the midwives are working with me to see if I can get him to take the breast, otherwise he?ll be mix fed for a while and then we?ll reassess. I refuse to get upset because I can?t do it, that is what formula was invented for and as long as he?s eating and stays healthy I?ll give him what I can. As I said to someone yesterday if they told me it would help I?d be out digging up woodlice for him!
He?s very colicky as well, he was in the hospital and still is now we?re home, I?ve just managed to get him settled after a pleasant hour of screaming. He?s on his front on my chest as it?s the only way he would calm down (facilitated my typing as well!) J being very good at taking night feeding shifts and letting me get some sleep. I did have a small meltdown the first night home when nowhere he could potentially sleep would do, for now he?s sleeping in the pram in our room! I then made J check him three times for his face being clear of bedclothes, him not being able to wriggle down and that he was just generally fine. All this was eased as soon as I realised that without the ambient hospital noise I can hear him breathing so would know if something was wrong, especially as he?s a very snuffly baby!

I haven?t cried today, which is day four and something of an achievement, there are lots of references in my notes to me being tired and upset. Well since I think I got six hours sleep between Monday morning and Thursday morning I?m not shocked! I got a fair few hours last night, an hour this afternoon and then I?ve had a few hours before my colic shift tonight.

J very supportive, though strangely very bothered about the BF thing. I know he?s his baby too but he seems unreasonably upset that it hasn?t gone to plan. He?s taken to fatherhood like a pro though and has figured out one armed lifts and has done his fair share of dirty nappies!

We?ve had the MW round, he?s lost very little weight so with his feeding issues that?s a weight off our minds. Of course as I undressed him to be weighed he weed all over me! And he still gets a lot of hiccups!

cherrycobbler · 02/11/2011 14:11

wow toria congrats again on your gorgeous boy and thank you for sharing your birth story. Quite a time you both had of it, so glad you're both home doing well. My favourite bit is you explaining what your nightie looked like when J tried to hand you a baby vest Grin

Good on you for not getting upset about feeding. The priority is your baby being healthy and well fed, and formula is really amazing stuff. Anyway it takes two to breastfeed, and so both you and the baby have to be committed to it, you can't do it without his participation! Breastfeeding ended working for us, but now baby C is a little too committed to it and stubbornly refuses a bottle, causing lots of stress for mummy...

Hope you are managing to get some sleep, your shift system sounds great! I was permanently in tears for the first three weeks, you sound like you are just doing so, so well.

mrsw, how rubbish about DP's job :( Hope you're doing ok & glad he's found some casual work to tide him over. What are your plans for Robyn's christening?

halo hope the move went well and life at the inlaws is ok!

Still sleep deprived here. Wish there was a yawn emoticon!

WorrisomeHeart · 02/11/2011 20:26

Argh, I really must get better at keeping up with this thread!

bunny Poor Will with the grommets! My brother had grommets put in when he was about 12 after suffering chronic ear and throat infections all his life and they really helped. Will he have to be under general anaesthetic for the op?
Oh and what a clever boy with the walking! There'll be no stopping him now!

highheels what a nightmare! Are they going to backdate the amount you're owed for next month? Hope it gets sorted soon, maternity pay is so low anyway you don't need anything messing it up!!

cherry how is the sleep going now? Are you still rocking your zombie look? Grin

toria Welcome, welcome, welcome!!! And congrats on Thomas! I loved reading your birth story, it sounds like you were a complete trouper! And I think you're taking completely the right attitude to the feeding issues - we had a very similar experience when Lochie was born (also induced but EMCS, then he was in SCBU for 3 days and refused to latch) and although I expressed for a while it became too difficult so we moved to FF. He's thriving on it and is an active, healthy, bag of mischief, so it was definitely the right choice for us at the time.

MrsW so crappy re DH's job - hope something else comes up for you soon.

All is fine here - Lochie is such a monkey, he discovered he could open the saucepan drawer yesterday (at 6am) and then proceeded to wander around the house whacking various surfaces with the biggest one he could lift. After he'd bashed the full length mirror with it, we decided enough was enough....
His teeth have been really bad though - it's drool city here and he was up and down 4 or 5 times last night, which means I'm exhausted, espeically as DH has manflu serious cold so was off duty. Crossed fingers it's a better night tonight - I have to say, I'm loving the fact that now Lochie's one he can have 10 mls of Calpol!!

Have a good week everyone!

bunnygirl80 · 03/11/2011 01:35

toria thanks for sharing your birth story - I had to Grin at the bit about the nightie too. I have fond memories of my poor DH rummaging through my hospital bag desperately trying to retrieve some item of clothing I'd decided to wear while I yelled instructions at him between contractions!

I wonder if your DH is so bothered about the bfing because he feels completely powerless to do anything about it. Me and Will had some real problems at the start - having left hospital feeding fine it rapidly went pear shaped within hours of getting home - and my DH was really really upset that there was not one single thing he could do to fix it for us.

mrsw hope your dp finds more work soon

worrisome Will does need a GA for his grommets - I'm sure he'll be fine. My main worry is that he'll be nil by mouth for a few hours prior, and I'm not sure how he'll respond to the prospect of no food.

Hope Lochie sleeps a bit better tonight

Will has now perfected the art of opening cupboards, and pulling out their contents Grin so DH's job for this weekend is to install the locks we bought months ago

highheelsandequations · 03/11/2011 22:22

toria huge congratulations and thanks for sharing your story. I echo what others have said, the important thing is that you and your boy are healthy, not what he is eating. I remember reading in my notes about me being very very upset and teary too, it was the day that the MW told us Rose had lost too much weight and she wanted us to take her into the SCBU and we'd been up literally all night desperatly tring to feed her. Of course I was going to be bloody upset!!

Was going to do a proper catch up but too exhausted, will try to get back in here properly soon.

cherrycobbler · 04/11/2011 08:53

Exciting news on the grads thread!!!

Hope you have had some better nights WH - and that your DH is feeling better in time to help out at the weekend!

We tried not feeding C for one of her wake ups last night. It did not go well. I am knackered having not really slept since four (with wake ups before that) and she has finally crashed out sprawled like a starfish next to me in bed.

bunnygirl80 · 04/11/2011 09:13

cherry hope you manage to catch up on some sleep today. We never had any success with not feeding Will when he woke. I've always been very Envy of people who manage to just give them a dummy or some water one night and then never do a night feed again. He sleeps through most nights now, but on the odd occasion he does wake he still demands food Confused

I think Will has walking pretty much cracked now. He refused to crawl anywhere today - he would walk either holding my hand or his walker, or make reasonable progress on his own Grin He broke his previous record for unaided steps today when I held his bottle just out of reach and kept walking backwards slowly while he came towards me......the things he'll do for food Wink

ToriaPumpkin · 04/11/2011 12:10

Bunny I've known lots of children with grommets, not fun but they do really help so hope they're good for you. Poor Will though. Love the image of him following you round for food Grin

I think you're probably right about the feeding actually, OH is a teacher, and a technical teacher with an engineering degree at that so he likes to solve problems and he saw how upset I got when he wouldn't feed and they wanted to give him formula. We've talked a lot about it though and are agreed that as long as he eats and grows up big and strong it doesn't matter how or what he takes. Even my BF nazi MW mother has agreed with me!

We have friends with two under three and when she was newly pregnant with their second they came down to stay. The older boy had just figured out cupboards so we put locks on all the ones with anything he might break or damage himself with. His response? To pull all the bottles out of the wine rack!

Cherry Hope you get a nap today!

WH Lochie sounds wonderful Grin I'm a pan banger as well so can totally see where he came from with that. Hope his teeth aren't giving him too much trouble today.

I've officially given up on BF, still expressing what little I've got so he gets the antibodies but it'll only be another day or so from the looks of things. He's taking formula like a little monster though so all is good and it meant I could have a glass of wine last night!

We had our ten day visit and discharge today and MW very pleased with him, his tummy button's healing nicely and although we haven't had him weighed for a few days he's obviously not losing (my arms are starting to notice it! Goodbye bingo wings Grin ) Still lots of hiccups and he's currently wriggling about on my step-dad's lap Grin

We've also got sleeping pretty much sorted, he likes to be awake from his ten pm feed til midnight but as he then goes down until ten am other than feeds I really, really can't complain. I think I'm actually getting more sleep now than I used to before I was pregnant when I used to have a drink and sit up watching bad TV Grin

cherrycobbler · 04/11/2011 16:57

bunny, I love that Will performs personal bests when coaxed with his bottle Grin!

Yay for being discharged toria! I am very Envy, not only does T look totally gorgeous and delicious, he sounds like he is sleeping more than C is now at six months! I don't think I got more than two hours consecutive sleep for the first six weeks of her birth (may explain why that whole period is a bit of blur...). Well done both of you.

C is having a nap now so off to defrost a sweet potato cube for her dinner later and have a Brew for myself now. And maybe some cake too. Mmmmm.

bunnygirl80 · 05/11/2011 09:05

toria it sounds like Thomas is doing really well. And you're totally right that it doesn't matter what he's eating as long as he's thriving. Enjoy your freedom to have as much Wine as you like Grin

I found I was definitely getting more sleep in the early days with a newborn than in late pg. Hope T keeps it up - William was a fantastic sleeper for the first 3 months of his life.......then he must have read a book or something that told him how badly babies are meant to sleep and he decided to give that a go instead Grin

cherry hope C enjoyed her sweet potato and you enjoyed your -cake--

We took Will for his first trip to the beach of the summer today. I took him a couple of times last summer, but he generally used it as an opportunity to nap while I hauled the pram across the sand. He absolutely loved it today - he toddled straight into the water, and just couldn't figure out why it kept appearing and disappearing with each wave. Then he dragged me along the sand to look at all the sandcastles the other children had built. DH meanwhile sat on a blanket sulking because he hates the sand Hmm

pixiestix · 19/11/2011 14:58

Wow, its quiet in here since we all decamped to FB!

Have just booked T in for her MMR jab on Tuesday. We've been agonising about it and I'm still not sure we've made the right decision. Every time I log on to MN I seem to see a post about vaccine damaged children. It feels like I'm playing russian roulette with my baby Sad