The Final Fruition of the Frolicking Forays for the First Time Frolickers

[Spirael]

We came, we saw, we frolicked.

Now our PFB has arrived and we can begin the stressful befuddled guiltridden exhausting wonderful journey of parenthood!

(Or at the very least we can stop bothering the antenatal bunch until they join us!)

Hi all! Thanks for all the birthday wishes for Mindy. She had a lovely day, and loved all three of her birthday cakes!

The main shock though over the last fortnight is that after being a unitooth baby for months she's suddenly sprouted another five! All four of her top incisors are coming through at once currently, it looks sore but she seems to be coping ok. And hopefully she'll find eating a lot easier once they're through.

Glad to year Will?s sleeping is going relatively well, Bunny. Love his 2am antics, though! Hopefully he?ll get back to sleeping well promptly once he?s feeling a bit better.

8 months BFing is very good. Well done to make it so far! I lasted until 7 then stopped before going back to work. It was such a relief, to be honest! I was hormonal for a few weeks while everything settled, and since then have been happily stable.

However I?m afraid you?ll need to get used to the ?But my baby!!!? feeling... I just experienced it all over again now that Mindy?s moved onto straight cows milk and started to stop using bottles and use beakers instead. She looks so grown up with teeth, cutlery, a cup, shoes... [bawls]

Though at the same time, very of all the early walkers... Mindy?s just about mastered standing and cruising, and she can take a few wobbly steps with her walker now. But she?s not yet standing independently. Not by choice anyway.

There?s a few times I?ve stood her up holding her hands and let go once she?s distracted by something... She normally stays standing for a few moments until she realises I?ve let go and sits down with a bump before giving me a very accusing look. [bad Mummy!] So I know she can do it... She just lacks confidence at the moment, I think.

We got her very first pair of shoes on her birthday though. Tiny 3Fs (in the sale at Clarks- yay!) that are very cute. :) And of course the first thing she did was stain them with curry when we took her out for a meal. Bah!

Congratulations on your little girl, highheels! :) Love the name Rose! Hope she?s gained the necessary weight. Mindy lost 11% in the first few days (my milk was soooo slow to arrive) and was nearly admitted to hospital, but we managed to narrowly avoid it in the end.

HH very lovely pictures!

I feel very sad that I return to work full time next week. Have done the KIT days, phased return for a couple of weeks - but really not looking forwards to returning "properly". Cant request PT till the reorganisations have been done, so November time?

Not sure if anyone can help - but... T has started waking at 10.30 most evenings over the last week, crying out in pain. There are no further signs of teething, so not really sure what it can be as the crying out is around the same time, regardless what time he goes to bed. Some times he settles with the dummy (10 minutes and back asleep) other times he starts sobbing, so I have him out the cot and sit with him (cuddling) till he calms down, then its back in the cot to sleep - which can be teary or stright to slepp (no real pattern)

Cheekys are not red, temperature is fine and food intake is average (no changes from pre-waking routine). I have upped his food recently, but this started prior and he is still in our room. I don't mind the waking - its the sobbing I can't stand as have no clue what to do to make it better (other than a cuddle).

Any ideas?

Spelling error galore - sorry, was one handed whilst feeding bottle as were off out shortly so didn't read prior to posting!!

So how is everyone?

I'm sorry I haven't been around as much. I'm now back at work which is interesting. It feels like only five minutes ago I was making the journey to hospital to have DS.

So how is everyone?

spirael 3 cakes Lucky Mindy! Hope she's coping ok with the teething. In my experience, the later teethers seem to do that - have no teeth for ages, then get 5 or 6 at once. It's almost like there's a delay with only the first 2, then once their mouth has the idea that yes it is supposed to have some teeth in it, the rest come through right on time.

oneof8 it is a bit when we go back to work. Although I have to admit, I find work alot easier than looking after Will for a whole day, and having time away from him does make me enjoy the time I do spend with him much more. When I was at home full time I was starting to find it all a bit intense, and felt like I never got a break. It's easier for me though as I only work part time, so I'm getting the best of both worlds.

Not really sure what's going on with T's nighttime crying. Will went through a very unsettled patch when we introduced evening solids - he got really gassy in the night and would moan and groan and cry out until I massaged his tummy and got rid of all the wind. The only other times we get crying at a set time each night is if he's really overtired and goes into his cot asleep at the start of the night, rather than going down awake and self-settling. He will inevitably wake after 3hrs and cry because he doesn't quite know where he is. Sometimes he'll resettle by himself after a few minutes, and other times he gets very upset and needs his dummy or cuddles and a feed.

I doubt I've been much help there! If he seems to be in pain, you could try a small dose of calpol before he goes down for the night, and see if that makes him more settled? Hope you get to the bottom of it soon, it's so hard when they're upset and you can't figure out how to fix it for them

tribble I know what you mean about it only seeming like 5mins since we had our babies. It seems really strange that we're all going back to work now.

We had a much better night last night in some respects - although we were up every couple of hours I actually managed to get Will to settle in his cot all night rather than having him in our bed from about midnight onwards. I'm glad as the cosleeping was not helping my milk dry up, and I'm getting a bit fed up of waking with painful lumpy boobs.

His latest trick is shaking his head to say no! Although sometimes it's a definite no, and sometimes it's a ooh look I can shake my head isn't that cool It seems he'd prefer to be free range and nappyless though, as he's quite happy having his nappy taken off, but as soon as I try and put a new one on he starts head shaking like crazy He's definitely started testing the boundaries a bit as well - he had been pretty good at responding to a stern "William, no" if he was crawling off to do something dangerous. Now he will look up, and then carry on what he's doing while laughing to himself just to see how we react. I thought I had at least another 6mths or so before that kind of behaviour started.

Thanks for all the name and pic compliments. I know everyone thinks their baby is the most beautiful but mine truly is.

Midwife weighed Rose yesterday and she has gained 60g, not as much as I's hoped and she's still 200g under her birth weight but at least it's a step in the right direction and fingers crossed she keeps gaining. She does seem to be feeding fairly regularly now, every 1.5 - 4.5 hours although no sort of routine yet and we're getting loads of dirty and wet nappies so assuming we've got it sussed. Midwife was satisfied anyway and has signed us over to the health visitor.

Still feeling a little surreal about the whole thing. Can't quite get my head around the fact that 2 weeks ago she was in my tummy and now she's here and real and mine. Although she's right in front of me it still seems a little unreal if you know what I mean. Did anyone else have this? Worried that I'm not bonding properly because it all seems a little distant, then think I'm just being paranoid. Any tips? Also feeling guilty for doing anything other than giving my undivided attention to her, feel guilty going on the computer, reading a book, having a bath, ... it feels like I should be trying to interact with her constantly.

Also what have been people's thoughts on alcohol whilst breastfeeding? So far I've had half a glass of wine with my mum and dad and a glass of prosecco to celebrate after we registered her yesterday. Both times I've ended up worrying and feeling guilty. Would love to share the bottle of champagne that is waiting in the fridge with DP but feel too guilty/worried!

Sorry for me me me post, suppose it's quite natural to have so many questions and concerns when so new to this mummy thing. I just wish the reality would sink in a little more and I could relax a bit. I relax when I'm lying cuddling her but then start thinking too much and worrying again!

hh my thoughts on alcohol and BFing are the more the better The hospital I gave birth in is very very pro-BFing, but they also gave us champagne with dinner on our last night, so as far as I was concerned that was the medical profession giving it the ok

In all seriousness, I think it's fine to drink in moderation while you're BFing, but you need to do what you feel comfortable with. As long as it's a few hours to the next feed and you limit yourself to a couple of glasses it should be fine. If you are finding that Rose is still a bit random with feeding intervals, and you're worried she'll want a feed too soon after you've had your bubbly you could consider expressing a bottle for her just in case, or giving formula for one feed (you'll probably end up having to pump and dump for comfort though). I think it's a very personal decision though, just like drinking or not when you're pg, so you need to do what feels right for you....the champagne's not going to go off if you don't drink it for a few weeks

On a personal level, I went through phases with drinking while feeding. When Will was under 6wks, he only fed every 4hrs, so I knew if I had a glass or two of wine straight after a feed, I'd be fine by the time he was next hungry. Then after he hit 6wks he started wanting feeding at completely random times, and I got a bit worried about it so I pretty much stopped drinking unless it was pre-planned and there was a bottle of EBM available. Then he got past the 3-4mth mark, was back to going 4hrs or more between feeds, and I relaxed more about it, so I went back to having the odd glass or two of wine if I fancied it.

It's perfectly normal to want to spend your whole time gazing at your gorgeous little bundle I used to delay going to the toilet for several hours as even though Will was sleeping soundly, I'd be worried he'd wake up and be all alone. Now if I go to the bathroom he follows me

Hi all!

Sorry to have been awol for such a long time. Things have been pretty stressful in the Pixie residence for a while now, and I have felt quite low, but I?m hoping that finally we might be on the up and so I?m back on MN to see what everyone else has been up to!

Congratulations HH! Rose is absolutely gorgeous! What a sweet little pixie face. It must have been awful for you to have to take her back to hospital, but hopefully now she will start to pile on the chub!
With drinking and BF, I agree totally with Bunny - its completely down to the individual but once DD started going 3-4 hours between feeds I allowed myself a glass or two every now and again. I hardly ever drink but I don?t beat myself up about it when I do. (Assuming obviously that you?re not going to get completely shitfaced while Rose latches on and has her breakfast!)

You sound like you have been having a hard time MrsW - I think I might be/ might have been suffering from PND too, but the thought of anti-depressants terrifies me and so I have shrunk away from the doctors and health visitors. I hope you feel like you are coping ok this week. You sound like a fab mum to Robyn x

Ahhhh Lochie sounds so adorable Worri! He is already doing loads more that Tegs even though he is about a month younger, I think? Tegan is more verbal than physical, I think [makes excuses for DDs woeful inability to crawl, cruise or walk!]

Happy belated birthday Mindy! God, can you believe it was a year ago you surprised us all with your birth story post Spirael? Madness! I remember shrieking at the computer when I read it ? it was so unexpected. I?m glad M had a good day. Three cakes?!!
PMSL at ?unitooth?

I?m glad William?s sleeping has improved Bunny - you must have an iron will to have survived these last few months. I?m the kind of person who goes to pieces very quickly if my sleep is disturbed. I don?t know if we were just lucky with DD or if she sensed that life would not be worth living if she played up, but we have had no trouble at all with her sleep, thank god. I honestly think I would have had a full on breakdown if I?d had to cope with what you have. [bows down in awe]

How are you finding work Trib? I go back at the end of August and I have been dreading it but I spoke to a colleague who felt the same this week and she is having a ball! She?s loving being out of the house and having a bit of responsibility for something other than nappies and sick-cloths. So that has cheered me up a bit as we were really on the same page this time last week.

Well, leaving aside the mess that is me, DD is doing well ? she is such a doll. She is still miniature compared to most of the other babies we meet, but I think that is just the way she is going to be so it doesn?t worry me too much. She has been following the 9th centile since a few weeks old and I don?t think she will ever be very hefty! She is 16lbs now at 9 and a half months At least we are getting our moneys worth with her clothes ? the 3-6 month stuff is still going strong!
She has got four teeth and two more threatening to come through at any minute. (I?m still breastfeeding her, but we?ll see how that goes as more teeth come in.) She can clap and wave, and direct Mama, Dada and Gaga (Granny) to the right person. But she can?t crawl for toffee ? she sees something she wants and starts frantically going backwards and further and further away from it! Its very frustrating for her, which is good as it means she is desperately trying to do something about it. I feel really sorry for her at baby club as the boys rampage around her and she sits there waving her arms and shouting, wanting to join in. Its very sweet to watch.
Anyway, she is stirring from her afternoon nap so I?d better go, but I?ll try and keep up with the thread a bit better from now on!

pixie good to see you back here, hope you feel better about things soon. I've actually found that going back to work has done wonders for my mental health - I was getting quite down at times with the lack of sleep and just the neverendingness of parenting. Now when I pick William up from nursery I love seeing how delighted he is to see me and I love being able to talk to people about stuff other than his naps and the contents of his nappies for a few days each week.

As for having an iron will dealing with the sleep, I haven't really had a choice We do have some good nights, and we did have a whole month of great sleep at one point, but it just never lasts.....people keep telling me that poor sleepers often turn out to be geniuses, so I'm clinging onto that

The genius theory makes sense - Tegs sleeps like an angel and is as daft as a brush!

pixie sadly I think that Will is a rubbish sleeper and also daft as a brush

Actually I've reorganised his bedtime routine a bit to ensure he goes into his cot awake, and last night we only had the one wake up, so we might be getting back into good habits again

My right boob seems to have got the message that we've stopped BFing, however the left is still lactating for England. I look like a porn star that could only afford half a boob job Tried massaging it the shower last night as it was rock hard and very painful, and it shot a jet of milk onto the shower screen about 2 feet away

Aw thanks pixie what a lovely comment :) Hope you're feeling a bit better about things soon.

Highheels Rose is lovely! And the name obviously gets my vote as it's one of Robyns middle names! I know exactly what you mean about the surreal thing, I was amazed when Robyn got to a week old and I was responsible for that! Sounds ridiculous now but it seemed like a massive achievement at the time. As for the bonding, I can relate to that to, it was something I think I struggled with for the first 2 weeks but I just pushed the thought to the back of my mind and then eventually I just realised that I loved Robyn sooo much and I hadn't even noticed it happening! I definitely didn't get the immediate rush of love that some people describe, to me she was just a new person that I had to get to know. And also as others here have pointed out to me, bonding is a different experience for everyone, so you should just go with how you feel. :)

Check me out being all rational these days!! Feeling much better in myself and think it probably has a lot to do with being back on the pill! Same thing happened when I came off it when we first TTC - I turned into a nutter!! Glad I'm back to feeling a bit more myself now though.

R is doing well, although think she may be starting the dreaded teething process, she constantly has a fist jammed in her mouth and sucks on everything! She also has random little crying outbursts that seem to be for no reason. Is it usually still a while before teeth actually appear though?

Hope everyone else is well :)

mrsw glad you're feeling more like yourself. It's amazing how much our hormones seem to govern our moods - since I stopped BFing I've had an extremely short fuse. DH made the mistake of pissing me off slightly this evening and felt the full force of my temper Really need to get me to the docs to get back on the pill in the hope that'll sort me out.

As for teeth - Will started drooling and gnawing on his fingers when he was about 3mths.........he's 8.5 mths now and still has no teeth. I can see 4 of them hovering just below the surface but they still haven't cut through, so I think it can take ages for them to actually appear

William pulled up to standing all by himself for the first time about 3 days ago, and today he cruised around the furniture in his room like a pro. I think he'll be walking before we know it

I know that by writing this it'll jinx us, but his sleep has been fantastic for the last week. I've been managing to get him into his cot awake, not overtired, and let him self settle, and it's made a huge difference. He's figured out how to get a dummy and put it in his mouth too, so if he does wake and just wants to comfort suck he can manage to do it by himself

Bunny can I ask your advice on how much formula to give seeing as you have just started with it yourself? I have just started weaning Tegan this week as I go back to work at the end of August and I wanted to get her used to being bottlefed by then. I?m down to one BF a day ? the one when she wakes up. She is on three meals a day and I?m struggling to figure out how many bottles she should have to go with her solids. The girls at the baby club we go to have FF since the beginning and seem to have fixed times they give the bottles ? 7am, 11am, 3pm, 7pm but I feel like I?m just constantly forcing food in her gob! I tried a BF and three bottles but she didn?t seem to want her dinner, so the last two days I have given her one 8floz after her midday nap and one 8 floz before bed. Do you think that sounds enough compared to what William is on?

How are the scary milk-jets now? Have they dried up? Seriously, if it goes on more than a week get yourself to the doctor because they can give you tablets which will dry up your milk within a couple of days. There is no use being uncomfortable for nothing. My boobs are coping well so far with the reduction in feeds but they do feel really sensitive and I am a bit scared of what will happen when I drop the final feed! Wuss that I am, I am clinging on to that last one for a few days more!

Well done William for cruising. T has started pulling herself up this week as well and looks sooooo pleased with herself. She isn?t really cruising yet but our furniture isn?t really cruise-friendly ? our sofa is hugely squashy and most of our furniture is adult waist height. Not much I can do about that ? she?ll just have to figure it out for herself!

pixie I'm maybe not the best person to advise on quantities as William isn't a huge fan of drinking his milk, so I'm not 100% sure he's drinking enough.

I've just moved him onto 3 feeds during the day in the last week. I offer him 240ml at 7am, he usually drinks about 200ml of it. Then he has 180ml at around 1pm, and he'll usually have about 100-150ml of that. Then I offer another 240ml at bedtime, and he'll have around 200ml again. That sounds pretty similar to what you're giving Tegan.

We were doing the same feed times as your friends are, and he's gradually reduced the 11am feed until he completely lost interest in it, so I've stopped offering it.

I wanted to cling onto that one feed a day until he hit 12months, but he had a full on nursing strike, with hitting, biting and generally abusing me, so I decided to stop while he wasn't interested. My boobs are much more comfortable now, although they are still producing some milk. They've stopped feeling lumpy, although they're still a bit tender, so I think they'll be ok. I've always had oversupply, so I weaned Will really slowly, dropping a feed every couple of weeks, but each dropped feed has resulted in a couple of days of discomfort.

Well done to Tegan for pulling up. Will struggled for a while because we have really slippy wooden floors, but he's suddenly got the hang of it, so I'm sure Tegan will be the same.

We took William to the supermarket for the first time in ages yesterday. He's big enough to ride around in the seat in the trolley now, and he had a great time. He spent most of the trip either trying to steal food from the shelves or flirting with little old ladies. There's a huge Italian population where we live, so all the grannies were tickling his cheeks and chatting away to him in Italian.

Hi all,

Been meaning to do a catch up for a while but the weather's too gorgeous to sit indoors on a computer! Anyway, bit of news for you - I got a BFP yesterday, closely followed by two more this morning! Looks like LO's set to become a big brother in nine months time, all going well! Just going to grab a bit of lunch now (eating for three as I'm still bf too - oink oink!) and then I've an appointment at 1.45pm at the doctor's, so I'd better dash, but I just couldn't wait to share!

P.S. Pixie - Good to hear from you but hope you're alright? If you ever fancy a chat, let me know and I'll send you my e-mail address. x

Bloody hell whiteroses well done you! What fantastic news!!!! I have a huge on my face!

Hi to everyone else, will come and post a proper catchup soon!

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh Myyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Goddddddddddddddddddddd!

That is the best news I have heard all month! I'm so happy for you! Woweeeee, you are one brave and brilliant lady - I can't believe that you are going to have two under two. Eeeeek!
I will try and send you a proper message in the next few days to fill you in all my bits, but OHHH, I'm so pleased to hear your news!

Now, you have to promise to come on here all the time and tell us all about your pregnancy so that we can live vicariously through you - I daren't do it myself yet but I loved all our chatter when we were ttc and then pregnant, so I want to hear everything.

Hurrah!

Wow roses congratulations. And well done you for actually finding the time to have enough sex to actually make a baby

Hope this pregnancy treats you better than the last one did

My news is much less exciting William stood up all by himself for 0.000001 secs yesterday. He's sporting a whole heap of bruises from all his antics though - pulling up on the furniture is just not enough for him, he has to try and climb up onto the sofa, which is leading to some pretty hefty falls. And he slept through for the second time ever last night And I managed to sleep through too, instead of lying awake wondering whether I should go and check on him or not

Hi everyone,

Well the good weather seems to have gone! :( Means there's time for MN though!

Thank you for your congratulations. Pixie - two under two - shhh! Trying to block that out! Lol! And Bunny - this is proof that it's timing rather than how often you do it! Twice in six weeks but one of those times obviously worked! Ah well. Just now it feels dead weird. Last time around, we told my parents and sister straight away, but they're off on holiday for a fortnight on Sat, so I decided to keep it quiet till they get back. I'm sure Mum in particular would spend the whole holiday worrying about me non-stop if she knew - remember last time my sickness was so bad that I was hospitalised? I'm sure she'd be itching to be there for me if she thought I needed her and I don't want to spoil the holiday. Last summer they didn't have a holiday because I was pregnant! Anyway, that means it hasn't really sunk in yet, I don't think! We've been trying to plan like mad though, because last time around, I got taken into hospital first time around at six and a half weeks - that's a week and a bit from now. So today, DH is off visiting his family cause he probably won't get much chance if I start needing him more. Tomorrow he'll take LO and I'll spend the day cooking and baking and stocking the freezer. Over the weekend, we're going to paint the house or do the garden, depending on the weather. Monday, we're taking LO to the zoo and going out for our dinner... See, I learned lessons last time! Lol! I just hope to God the sickness isn't like last time. But at least I know that the end result was very very worthwhile!

Anyway, Bunny - what a clever son you've got! What age is he now? My LO's ten months now and has been doing the same, but only for the past couple of weeks - it's like he forgets to hold on and when he remembers, he grabs onto the closest thing to hand! Longest he's managed to forget for, like Will, is a few seconds! :) Oh, and like Will, my LO's covered in bruises too, from all his climbing antics! Well done on the sleeping through though - bet you feel great today! Let's hope it happens again soon! :)

Pixie - will check back regularly for your message. x

Worisome - back to you!

Such fantastic news roses, I'm just chuffed to bits for you! Will keep my fingers crossed that the hyperemesis doesn't strike again - is there any likelihood of it being better because it's your second or does that not make a difference? wow, between this and the various post natal threads on Chat and AIBU at the moment, I'm feeling rather broody!! Do keep us updated so that this of us who are a bit more chicken can live vicariously through you!!

bunny well done Will!! What a clever kid. And such great news re the sleeping through - and that you were able to as well!

All is fine here except that Lochie is deep in the grips of separation anxiety which is making life a little tricky. I'm not sure if the settling at nursery has kicked it off or just highlighted it but he's even tricky with DH sometimes too. Is anyone else dealing with this at the mo and have any good strategies?
He was quite ill last week (hence the silence from me!), it was the first time he's had a fever so that was pretty freaky. Seems to be over it now though, thank goodness! He's doing the whole standing thing too and has taken a couple of unsupp

Bloody phOne posting too soon!!

What I meant to say was that he's taken a couple of unsupported steps but mostly down to momentum, ie when he's been dashing down the couch he sometimes lets go for the last couple of steps to me. It'll be interesting to see just how long it takes him to get the hang of it!

Anyhow, sorry and hi to those I've missed out! Hope everyones well and enjoying the sunshine!

whiteroses Congratulations! Such lovely news. When are you due? End of March/April? Tis a lovely time to have a baby I am considering 2 under 2 or at least 2 under 3. (DP is broody already - he has no chance yet!) I will be watching intently how you cope being pg with a LO. Fingers crossed you sail through this pregnancy - you deserve to.

Sorry I've been awol again. Hannah is 4mo now and still a real chubber. She has doubled her birth weight on my milk alone which I am very proud of. No rolling yet though, she is just too much a round thing to go anywhere fast I feel. New photo on my profile.

Sleep is still pretty bad here (2 hourly wake ups all night, night poos, noisy awake periods) and I'm a fool for not taking people up on their offers of help because I don't want to be apart from Hannah. We spent 99% of our time together and I don't let her cry at all if I can help it. Is this normal? To be so attached you can't let them go at all? I'm starting to worry about returning to work which isn't until January but feels like its coming round fast? I may extend my leave to 1 year but not going back is not an option.

mrsw Glad you are feeling better. I hope it continues. I think we might be teething too. Dibbles, biting down, unexplained grumpiness...oh the joys!

I can't believe we have more walking & standing babies - well done Lochie and Will

Ooooh congratulations WhiteRoses how exciting, I would start trying for DC2 now but DP is having none of it!!

And well done Will :)

Thanks Halo I am definitely feeling 100% better now, amazing what a little contraceptive pill can do!!

Robyn did her first little half roll over 2 nights ago, I was so bloody excited I think I scared her with all my clapping and whooping!! Am off to check out your picture and then think I might put an updated picture of Robyn on too.

Worrisome Sorry if this is a silly question but what is seperation anxiety? Well, I kind of know what it is but how is he behaving? I'm just being curious as never heard of it with babies before.

halo she is gorgeous!!! Love the tummy shot, just sooo cute. Ahh I am really broody seeing all these little babies, Lochie is such a little boy now, I want a little baby to cuddle again! [WH slaps self with sicky muslin and removes rose-tinted spectacles remembering night feeds etc...]

In answer to your q, I think that it's quite natural to not want to spend any time away from your LO at this stage. TBH, I've found it hard leaving Lochie at nursery just for an hour - although I have been glad of the break! However, if you can take an hour or two to yourself it's not a bad idea - just a chance to recharge your batteries. By the time you have to go back to work, Hannah will be that much older and you'll (hopefully) feel better about it. I found that when Lochie was tiny I was quite stressed about going back, but now that he's that much bigger and moving etc it's not such a difficult idea - it's almost like he can take care of himself more now, ie if one of the other babies comes over and tries to bully him, he can move away! Hope that makes sense...

Will have a go at putting another pic on my profile..