Dec 08 Ladies - Waiting for BabyLady & the usual grumpy tots with stinky bots

[DeidreBarlow]

Hope this is ok...

Morning.
Beans that sounds odd to me. I don't know nurseries but the 3 I emailed sent me info and they all seem to keep some kind of a record of what your child has eaten / done / slept through the day and give it to the parent when they collect. I'd question it. I hope you feel better soon - would love to see you and meet babybeans2

Lady glad you got some shopping in. I'm a total on line shopper these days as I'm still a little scarred from the recent Tesco / M&S outing and the train wreck tantrum ds put on.

I third the Isabella Oliver suggestion. I never had any of her things but friends did and I always thought they looked fabulous!

Spot, looking forward to your visit! Sorry about all the crap nights you've had - If you wake up feeling awful don't worry if you don't feel like doing the drive - I would completely understand! I keep forgetting how you are quite pregnant now. Hopefully the two terrors will amuse themselves, and don't worry CBeebies is a very familiar channel in this house for long periods too

This has taken an age to type - I had more, but must post

Vaggie, I know what you mean about visitors leaving -trust me- as much as I loved my family being here I was kind of welcoming the peace and quiet, then cried all the way home from the airport, but was ok again and much less stressed a day later. Missing them all again now of course and wish they were here!

Beans I would be having a word. I dont know why nurseries cant do it all online know it would be soo much easier.

Vom seams to have stopped and it looks like it is going to miss DS2. Thank god. One of my BF had her first baby when we were on holiday and have already had to cancel seeing her twice because of poorly children dont want to cancel again.

SL poor DD my children are always hurting each other well to be honest it is normally DS2 injuring DS1 he is like a bulll in a china shop. Your Scotland trip sounds lovely. I have plumped for this place it looks great

SPot sorry for the rubbish nights. Big up cbeebies I say. We are watching Lightening McQueen as DS1 is still a bit dying swan.

SYB hope your house gets better quickly.

MOM hope you are feeling tip top soon.

Oh and the shoulder is still aching but doesn't seem quite as bad. I guess I can't expect a complete recovery over night!

hello
P has gone to sleep in her cot so I'll try to have a little catch up. It's improssible to use the laptop when she's around now because she just wants to bash it, or, even worse, she has discovered that you can watch Barney the iritating purple dinosaur on You Tube and likes to watch "I love you, you love me..." over and over again! It's quite cute though because she gives me a kiss and cuddle very time [soppy mummy]
In fact she has a few new words too...she says "guggle" (which means the same as Veggie's ds2's "duddle"!), and "dike" (cake ), but has lost "dada" and replaced it with "garo". Odd but amusing!
Flippin heck she's woken up. We got rid of the dummies on Friday and she's been absolutely fine. A few "gone?" moments but slept fine, so much less of a hurdle than I was expecting. Phew. I was abit worried it might be affecting her top teeth, which seem a little curved, and also maybe her (lack of) speech, as even though she only had it over night, that's basically half her life! ANyway, it's done now
Right have to go because she's wailing. Grr.
Hopefully back later - DH is out tonight so I can come back guilt-free!

oh and meant to say "mom" that is so funny about the sudocrem cat!
And beans our nusery provide a little book for each child which comes home every night. They write what she has eaten, when she slept from and to, whether she's had wet/ dirty nappies and a description of what she's done in the day. It's lovely and helps us feel part of what she's doing and we can talk to her about it too. I'd definitely ask about having something like that. Not that the lack of it means minibeans is any less looked after - it's just nice for the parents.
Right really yelling now - best go

loving the cat and sudocreme!

just to say - scan all fine. phew. now got to get on with gestating this one.

Evening all,

It is still so weird to see DD1 walking around. She is trotting around with her favourite bag. She has three already, ho ho. We went to the NHS dietician today - it was just a watered down version of what I got from the private one. She was weighed as well - with her clothes on, which is daft, because all the other times for her red book have been without clothes - and with clothes on she is still only on the 9th centile for weight, and she has been on this special calorific formula for nearly a month. However, she looks much bigger to me. Our eating routine has deteriorated recently because of the chaos here. Oh, and this dietician also said it would take years to get her eating normally again. Great.

Summer, the trip north of the border sounds really nice. Eeek about the DS inflicted injury to DD...Well, you know we have averted disaster a few times here. If it is set to get worse that does actually worry me. DD1 seems more secure and happier, though, than she did a week ago.

Spot, did you make it up with DP before he left? Oooh, the lack of sleep is horrid I know. I feel drunk with tiredness, it's vile. Have a lovely time tomorrow.

Sybs, are the girls any better? We've got lots of ill ones at the mo, haven't we? Rubes - how is DD? And Jam - DS1?

Talking of illness - Mom, I hope it didn't spoil Paris for you, being ill. I know it's a total joke coming from me but pushing yourself when pregnant AND ill can end up quite debilitating, so I am glad you have been resting, even if it is somewhat enforced. And the Sudocreme cat - that stuff is evil to remove, it's like white paint.

Beans, I must say it would irritate me about the nursery, even though they are probably looking after her beautifully. I had a super parcel from you today! That is very thoughtful of you, thank you so much! It's lovely. As for the run, well you know I think you are amazing for doing it at all so don't get too hung up on your time. Great cause as well.

Rubes, I am relieved to hear the shoulder is bearable.

Trace, the things we do to get cuddles from our children! WHen DD1 was upset when I got back out of hospital, I started telling her "Mummy loves you very very very..." and she then bellows "LUCH!" because she is still keen on mixing up her consonants. If she wasn't able to pick out certain words from the tiniest whisper, yards away, I would worry there was something wrong with her ears.

She still, weeks later, resolutely insists on calling me Lady. I call myself Mummy, and DP refers to me as Mummy, but no dice. I don't mind though.

Where's Effie?

If anyone likes French films, has anyone seen the two Mesrine films? I started watching Pt 1 this afternoon. It seems really good but rather depressing. I think it's based on a true story as well.

Apprentice tonight, yay. There's a really pretty girl in it who had some lovely high heels on last week, but she doesn't seem all that nice. I can never get over how humourless they all are. Does it really have to go hand in hand with ambition?

X-posted with you, WG! That is smashing. Good for you.

Great news on the scan WG. Was that yr 12 or yr 20 week scan? I get so confused about how far along everyone is. Did you find out the sex?

I love the sudocrem story MoM. Brilliant! How is the cat now?

Beans I always got a written daily report when DD1 was in nursery. I would talk to them. It must be weird having no idea what the little bean is doing each day.

Sorry to hear about the child on child violence SL. DC2s learn to toughen up quick. Although like in the Jam household it's DC2 who is must dangerous now.

Sorry to hear about all the vom in the Sybs and Jam house. My nightmare as you know. It reminds me I have still not had a letter through about my CBT referral. Must chase.

So our house saga limps on. The lady who rejected our offer has now said she will accept it if she doesn't get a higher offer by next Monday. We are excited BUT we had convinced ourselves that we were lucky not to have the offer accepted as we were really, really stretching ourselves & I could not reduce my hours ever with such a big mortgage. We could of course
withdraw the offer but the house is so lovely. Other boring details that I will spare you from involve the bank transferring my savings to an account I can't access for 12 months.

In other news I have very weird hormones at the moment. A period every two weeks and hot flushes and spots. It makes my wonder whether my fertility is under threat. Slightly worrying as we have yet to decide whether or not we want DC3.

Avo, you can get your hormone levels checked from a simple blood test or two (in fact, if you go to your GP, that might be what he arranges). Interestingly, they can tell from hormone levels what state your eggs are in although I am sure, as you are still young, that isn't an issue. Any further word from the bank about their awfulness? As for the house, I remember you saying your DH is quire risk averse. What are his feelings about the house? I guess with any big decision, if you feel you can cope with whatever the worst case scenario might be on taking that decision, that will give you your answer.

So I was about to start my tax return but just thought I'd pop in for a quickie first (not procrastinating at all, honest...)

Avo that sounds kind of serendipitous about the house. But I saw on FB about your banking nightmare, I would echo what everyone has already said about going to the press, or try the consumer one on Radio 4 (can't remember the name, but I'd go to all the papers and see who sounds most likely to pull their finger out). Weird about your hormones, could it be stress-induced? Of course I know nada about such things, but from experience I have often had periods close together when I've been under the kosh at work.

House-wise, heard nothing since our 'final offer' was made a few days ago. Interestingly we heard back from a house that we'd previously had a rejection on, saying they'd accept our offer. But I have a weird feeling about it, even though it's really near town and near parks, the downsides are that the nearest school is deeply average, and each time we went to view it the neighbours (who I assume are students) were drinking lager in their sofa in the garden at 10am. Now I'm not one to stereotype, but that raises big red flags for me about potential noise at unsociable hours...

Lady think the fact you know DD1 is putting on weight is a good sign, though sounds v unhelpful for dietician to talk about improvement taking years. They have no idea and if there's anything guaranteed to make you feel despondent about progress, that's surely it. It could all change quickly - e.g when she goes to nursery or preschool. T eats things there he never would at home, I think peer pressure does have some effect.
Thanks for asking about me and DP, we did have a chat on Mon night but it was very same old - basically about DP not having any friends here and feeling very depressed and lonely and tired as a result. I think he feels better just talking so I have to bite my tongue when I'm gagging to get frustrated or offer constructive advice. Still, he knows what he needs to do, he just needs the time and energy to do it. Was good for him not to leave on a bad note though.

BEans - re-the nursery thing, in T's previous nursery (that I had to take him out of) he had a written report every day, at his current one it's just a verbal thing where they say what he's eaten, dirty or wet nappies and how long he's slept. It's all I need as i know he's happy there (and can see from the state of his clothes/nails if he's been painting, in the sand etc etc). I felt with the other one that they were spending all their time writing and that must have taken time away from playing with them, so horses for courses. If they don't give verbal reports as a matter of course I'd ask for one, but I don't think the lack of a written one is a sign of a bad nursery.

Trace, nice work on the dummy removal. Did you do the whole 'dummy fairy', present thing, or just tell her that things were a-changin?

Mom, when you're getting lectures from Lady on slowing down, you know you've overdone things . I hope you take her advice.

WG, great news on the scan . Now get gestating!

Really gotta go now, but sure I'll be back later...

spot re the dummies - P was moaning for her dummy in the car with dh on Friday (that is, she was whinging and pointing at her mouth!), and dh said something along the lines of "you're a big girl now, you don't need a dummy"! Then when it came to bedtime I was putting her to bed and she pointed at her mouth then said "gone", so I just agreed and said "yes your dummies have gone because you're a big girl", and she cried initially but for just a few minutes, then went to sleep without one! She points at her mouth when she's sleepy and we just say the same thing again. She actually found a dummy under her cot and put it in and showed me with a "na na na na na" face, so I just asked for it then we went and put it in the bin, saying " dummies have all gone now because you're a big girl". Simple as She hasn't woken in the night for it either, which has been a pleasant suprise!
WG so pleased with your scan result
I just watched the apprentice. I've never seen it before but I think I might have to watch it next week... it was really good fun!

Argggh, lost my post. So lets try again ...

Firstly, I do hope all the illies get well soon, lots of love to you all. LadyT how are your aches, pains etc now? Your posts sound remarkably normal and 'with it', I was still am unhinged after DD

Summer DH often works in Aberlady. Which is that B&B, it sounds fab? DD and I will be able to take a trip with him and take advantage of the babysitting!

Talking of babysitters - the lovely girl across the road is looking after DD this weekend - and she's been over tonight and last night to play with DD and get used to bedtime. What a sweetheart, I'm so pleased we've asked her.

WG lovely news about the success of the scan

Beans we get a short report from nursery, only 'slept for an hour, ate half her lunch, 1 dirty nappy', and then the nursery nurses talk about the activities. I like it, but I'm an organised, listy type person. DH couldn't care less about the report and generally loses it and DD is still fine anyway. Whether it matters is probably a personal thing. I don't have a clue who DD's key worker is, but as there's only 3 staff in the baby room they all know all the children very well.

I was super proud when I picked DD up last week, and she'd told the nursery nurse she'd done a poo. What a clever thing. She's not it since, but still maybe I'll she'll be ready for potty training before she turns 18.

Have you seen your new neice yet, Trace? Is she gorgeous? My cousin had a baby boy this week, he is so snuggly, but remains nameless.

I did laugh and the sudocremed cat and the ladybird and the shoe. Such funny babes!

I am loving watching the news tonight, so happy and lovely. But it has thrown me and I've forgotten what else I wanted to say. Sorry if I've missed you out

xx

Hi ZJ :) I forgot to report back on my niece Yes we went up on Saturday and she's gorgeous! She looks quite like Phoebe did as a newborn - but I guess their dads are brothers so that shouldn't suprise me! I had some yummy cuddles with her and Phoebe was very keen to point out her ears and eyes and nose and mouth, which made BIL and SIL rather anxious, but she managed to be gentle-ish! SIL was still a domestic goddess, looking well groomed and baking cakes and making fresh soup for our visit!veggie I can see why you enjoy your neices so much - I can't wait to go up and see her again She's called Isobel Rose. Beautiful.

wow. Just watched miner 25 come up.

Rubes, stick the coffee on. T up til 3.30am. Aaaarrrgghhh! He teased us with 4 nights of sleeping through then has gone back to his old milk-guzzling antics in the early hours.

Hungover here this morn.... forgot that drinking doesn't mix well with toddlers who rise early and babies to feed Haven't been hungover in ages. dh's fault. He kept pouring wine... coffee will be strong Spot, but hope you're not driving if you are not up to it.
Beans sorry not to see you today but hope you feel better soon. Another time maybe... I may start taking it personally soon!
Right more coffee needed....
ds being a real pain. Woke at 6am and screamed, and has been irritable all morning. Only wants milk or a tiny nit of toast. Will have to drug him up I think.

Coffee on for me too. DS2 was up every hour from 1am. I'm sure its teeth but for some reason in my tired stupor I didn't want to go down stairs and get calpol. DH was in with DS1 because he has a late in Amsterdam today and I knew if I got up to get the calpol DS2 would scream the place down. I ended up giving in at 4 am and feeding him because I know it helps the pain. But he still woke at 6 & then finally up at 7. This morning I had my massage appointment (painful not nice) and then a terminology appointment to get my moles checked and one cut off. Back home now and settling DS2 for his nap the coffee time.

I've been lurking the last few days but can't remember anything. Oh except for the sudocreamed cat that's hilarious. I burst out laughing and both boys looked at me surprised. DS1 wanted to know what I was laughing at so I told him. DS2 listened then started rubbing himself as if applying cream to.his tummy and mioaing. How cute is that. Hey so.how did you get the sudo.cream off?

Rubes - am so sorry, but am snot-tastic, so don't want to give it to you either! Also have a small hangover after anniversary last night. DH cooked delicious steaks and we pigged out. It was fab. I've been trying to lose a bit of weight of late and have managed to drop about 4lbs, but think I probably put them back on last night. Never mind!

Just hanging with the girls this morning, which is lovely. DD1 so close to full talking, but just still doing gobbledygook, which I actually rather love.

And am now just doing 1 boob feed a day in the morning now. And that's it. Quite sad,b ut not end of world.

Spot - thanks for tips re nursery. I'm not too worried about it - they are now going to give us a daily diary until she has settled in, which is good. Then they stop and just do verbal, which is fine by me. It was more DH who was worried than me.

I gave him the new Halo game for our anniversary and he was so chuffed. Guess what we're going to be doing in the evenings for hte next few weeks! I'm betting he'll be home from work on time too!

Yeah, and an el biggo coffee for me too. In fact, throw a brandy in there. I can actually see (quite frighteningly) how people get addicted to painkillers. I have been off them for a few days (gotta stop sometime) and I realised that, as well as dulling aches and pains (incision, constant headache, neckache, backache) how nice and sleepy and mellow codeine made me feel. I was up between 2.25 and 5 and feel rather gruesome. DD2 always sleeps her very soundest between about 8am and 10 and then 11am and 1pm. Not so keen at sleeping at night and she blows up like a football and winding her is really hard. We have tried the Hungry Baby formula (made her even more windy and cry out in pain) and now the Comfort formula laced with Dentinox. This has no discernible effect, other than she now smells of dill

That was a big me post, and I will be back (possible much later) to post properly.

What the Halo game Beans? Sounds intriguing.

Sorry about the bad nights. We have had a good sretch this week. DD2 was waking early but we reduced her nap and last night she slept 7pm to 8.15am and DD1 slept 8pm-8.15am. It was luxurious although it did mean I didn't see them before work which makes me sad.

Steer away from that codeine LadyT. I have a lovely friend who got addicted to ibuprofen and codeine. Her body built up resistance to it so she was taking about 15 Nurofen Max Strength a day plus codeince inbetween. That would kill a normal person. She was told her liver would fail in the end so she had to do residential rehab. I am sorry you are still in pain though. Will you make it to your cricket dinner.

I went to the doctor this morning about my weird bleeding and hormonal stuff. He was a trainee GP aged about 25. It turns out I was his first ever appointment that he had to do on his own. The poor fellow looked very alarmed when I mentioned it was women's troubles. I think he was hoping for a simple cold to start his career with. He spent 40 minutes stuttering questions. Then he told me he could not examine me as male doctors can't examine female patients "down there" (his medical term). Surely he is wrong? That is craziness. I have had to book a seperate appointment with a female GP and there were no spaces with females for 10 days. Agh.

Hello all! Sorry, have been a bit absent, dunno why really - but am now tucked up in bed w horrible cold & chest infection. V boring! Hope everyone is well though.

Aahhh Beans, you know I am joking I hope! Your night sounds great. Happy anniversary by the way too.... Ours is 5 years for our next one! Your dh sounds SO much like mine. He's been talking about that Halo game too, but these days I hardly see him so I'm kind of glad he still hasn't bought it as then I'd never get a conversation out of him
Steak - yum. We just bought £100 worth of restaurant quality rib eye and salmon from a guy out of his van who came to our door Here so going to sample the steak tonight

Well Spot just left and ds howled and said "nooooo" and banged on the front door after, however it may have been more about wanting to be outside Had a lovely day. It was so lovely to see you Spot after so long. T is adorable and I love how he repeats everything back and he loves my dd (dear dog )! Such a good boy and I'm hoping ds learned a thing or two about calm nappy changes and how to talk a bit more
Spot looks fab and only 10 weeks to go!(WOW)
I will definitely come and see you in Brighton some time Can't wait to see ds2!

Right, ds was out like a light as soon as I put him in bed so some adult tv or perhaps a nap for me if dd goes off.

Avo, that's odd about that GP.... erm mines a bloke and he does girl stuff Hows the banking situation?

Hello Kiwi, gosh everyone is ill these days. Hope you feel better soon.

Oh that cat / sudocreme story was priceless Right up there with the veggiebaby birthing pool story!

Trace, congrats on the neice arrival. Beautiful name. dd was very nearly Isabella Grace.

Oh and Lady. When dd was quite young and had wind / colic etc really bad she was on that comfort formula. It takes a few days of her being on it to fully see the difference. (not sure how long you've been using it?) We have now put her back on the regular one but have been advised to use cartons as there's no need to shake them and therefore less bubbles / wind. Suits me although cost goes up a bit of course. A top Paed at the Portland advises this.

That's good to know Rubes, she has only been on it a day. SHe is like a little whoopee cushion that won't deflate I couldn't find the comfort cartons though so I just bought the powder. Where did you get the cartons from? Glad you had a lovely time with Spot! You and your steak I won't ever eat meat and fish again but I often wish I did because it makes low carb diets so much easier. Also, I have never tasted lobster in my whole life and it looks really nice.

Avo, I am hauling my sorry ass to the cricket dinner. I don't feel like it but it will do me good. I don't want to let them down, anyway (or Harry - he went to the cricket dinner when he was very sick indeed). Eek, a cautionary tale about your friend. I have just poured myself a spot of cheerfulness instead. Hmm. And what a loon your doctor sounded! Mind you, there have been so many cases of docs being accused of bad stuff, maybe it's a new thing that's been brought in.

Happy anniversary for yesterday, young Beans! Will still do proper catch up later but we have a tiny window of peace when DD1 has her nap and DP wants to watch Pt 2 of Mesrine.