November 09 - Autumnal times are drawing near, soon our babes will be one year!

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Hello ladies, hope no one minds me taking the liberty of creating a new thread and approves of the name choice. We've been moving a bit slower than antenatal so though we'd most certainly have some year-olds by the time we finished this one!

katster, wow congratulations! So it's two pregnancies already. Maybe I really should start trying. My husband has told me already that he is ready for another one. I am not so sure though. But when I read about or see pregnant women, then I really want another one.

Sorry for those who are exhausted. I really know the feeling. Here it is going a bit better at night, Paula wakes "only" about 3 times and is usually easy to get back to sleep so at the moment I'm enjoying to get a bit more sleep myself before I start working on the last remaining problems.

Goodness Laugs, how do you cope?

Katster great to see you. I've often wondered where you got to. And Congratulations!!!

I never understood small age gaps with dd1 who was an only child kind of baby. It took me a good 2 years to feel human after her. But now, I'd happily have another one. But DH is twice as knackered as me, procreational activity is nonexistent and we just couldn't afford the childcare. But with me fast approaching 35 I know it makes sense in my uniquely hormonal female brain... No periods yet so triple unlikely. Glum.

I too should be doing some work but am monging with crossed eyes in front of the laptop. Tuesdays are full teaching days for me and by the time I get home and teabathbed done I feel like I've just fallen off the end of a running machine!

Hobnob* I haven't had a period since Feb 09.... I have NO IDEA how I am pregnant to be honest!! I really should find out!!

Usigurke I totally understand the seeing pregnant women thing. I think I find it much more romantic and lovely when I am not pregnant though. But great that you're thinking about it. How are you getting on?

Hello to everybody else!! It's lovely being back!

Sounds like a lot of people have non-sleeping babies, like S too.Laugs It's so hard isn't it. I am so exhausted, all of the time! S wakes up a lot, normally around 5 x a night, sometimes is easy to settle, other times he just cries non-stop. He's much better if DH goes in, with me he just wants feeding and somehow plays up a bit more, screams louder and takes far longer to settle, but then DH has to go to work and I feel bad making him get up. Having said that, he gets a lie in til 7 every morning while I always always get up with S at 5.30/6. I hope this next one sleeps a bit more! Oh Laugs I don't know if it's worth trying, but I cut out night feeding altogether as with S, it had definitely become a habit. He was waking every 1.5 hours without fail and demanding boob to get back to sleep. Now I've stopped feeding him between 7 and 6am, he's definitely improved a bit.

Hope everyone else is good, looking forward to catching up with all the news!

katster are you planning on stopping bf S? I'd planned on stopping when Ethan turns one and knowing now that number two will be coming along approx six months later, those few months of having my body back (if you can ever say that when you're pregnant) can't come soon enough!

katster welcome back!! of course we remember you! you were central to our fb page werent you?!! (which i never get around to popping over too, sorry!). Congratulations! you are a very brave lady, and how fantastic, please stay with us and don't feel bad about being pre-occupied with life, that can't be helped . we all come and go as our life dictates, and everyone is missed who have not been here for a while. Including you laugs i had wondered where you had gone! at 6 times a night! but then i think back and realise it has only been a month or so since bear cub stopped waking that many times, and think about how fast it is all going. i so want it to slow down. I was also thinking about how with DD we knew nothing, and 'learnt' from our experience of sleeping, then with bear cub tried all the things we 'learnt' and followed all the guidance for sleeping, routines etc and bear cub has followed almost exactly the same sleep pattern as DD. and now think if we do have another one, we will say to hell with all the crap thrown at us and accept we have a non-sleeping baby and let us be guided by baby, as bear cub really has just gone with it as he wants not as we want, no matter what we do.

he slept through last night. we are in the loft with DD as MIL is here with us, and I woke at 4am, probably before that (in the same position i went to sleep in was so tired) and panicked the monitor was not on (it was) and kept checking it was working (it was) as bear cub had not woken at all, not even for a squawk then sleep, nothing. I had no idea of the time only that it seemed later than it normally is. I tossed and turned for ages, then at 5:45am, he woke up! he slept from 7:30pm-11:30pm (dream feed, DH fed him as he was ready for bed!) then 11:45pm-5:45am! then he did not sleep, just fussed on the boob for 45mins! I shan't expect it again!!

Bear cub is coming on leaps and bounds! He is a 'considerer'! calm, patient, and has MIL wrapped around his little finger already. She has fed him a bottle and his lunch and dinner and he took it all and she is very chuffed with herself!

Noooo Pav never admit when baby has slept through! That always jinxes it for me. Not that my baby ever sleeps through, oh no. Never.

Hi katster and congrats on the pg!! DWB now we're all dying to know if you have twins

Good to see you too Laugs :) Totally exhausted lately, not just you! LO has her top teeth coming in (finally) so she's been incredibly needy all day. I can't set her down, but if I hold her she goes for the boob, which is empty, because I just fed her *%$! minutes ago.

A good friend just had her baby last night! Combined with all this talk of pregnancies, I'm starting to feel a wee bit sad that we likely won't get a chance to try for another one for at least another year... I wanted ours to be closer together than me and my DB (4 year gap) but not sure we'll manage it...

Hello you lovely lot :) I need to majorly catch up!

Congratulations katster! :)

Argh NO MORE PG ANOUNCEMENTS it's making me too broody and I CAN NOT walk down the aisle 9mnths pg!

(Kaster I am only half joking. Big congrats to you )

waves to Laugs

Katster hi there! Long time, no 'see'! Wow!!!!! Congrats, congrats, congrats!

Stop it you guys - I can't be broody as I have three already and I am nearly 39. I don't think I'm going to have any more babies - I am very happy with my three little ducklings though. I sorted through all the 0-3 months, 3-6 months, and 6-9 months clothes the other day - very sad :( I haven't given them away yet though. That's a step I just can't take yet.

Congrats Kaster! Hello Laugs!

Pav Hope the 'you know what' continues!!

Wow, I'm loving all the pg news! Has made me feel broody too. I'm not sure if DH will ever be swayed on a DC3. I can't bring myself to get rid of anything baby wise either. C still doesn't sleep through the night. We've (ME!) never had a full nights sleep with him. I haven't moved him to his own room yet. I have been meaning to do it for a couple of months. Had to swap bedrooms around this week and they need decorating and carpeting. C will be with us for a few more weeks and then he'll be sleeping on his own. I feel more than ready for that transition.

Off to the GP with C shortly. I think he has thrush. Very sore bum with white spots. He has been teething most of the week. Still no teeth to show for it! DS1 had all the classic signs of teething, red cheeks, dribble, snotty nose, sore bum. C seems to get just the sore bum and more needy of me.

I'm still BF too. I was hoping C would start showing signs of wanting to stop. Not sure when to finish, maybe around 15 months.

HV is visiting next week. C isn't moving around yet, crawling or standing. He was breech until 36 weeks and hips were checked out and fine. HV wants to do another review on him. He has started to move a tiny bit with a commando style crawl. I know crawling isn't a milestone, but I'm worried about him not weight bearing on his legs. He is 1 on Halloween!

Sorry for the mammoth post. Hope we've all got lovely sunshine today

Oh, I'm a bridesmaid on Friday. I think the weather is meant to be sunny. I'm looking forward to being glam for the day .

congratulations katster! its Trikken here, have name-changed too!

have just got home from ds's Harvest Festival assembly. It was lovely!

fruit R's had a nasty thrush rash too. Canesten cleared it up but it's back now. poor little thing, she writhes around at nappy change time Hope C's clears up soon.

We have HV visit next week too - I hope they weigh R as she's not been weighed since about 5 mths now and I'm curious to see what's happened. She seems small to me, but gobbles food and milk so not worried! My friend's little one was breech and is not crawling either, though I didn't realise that could possibly have anything to do with it. IMHO in her case, she is just a watcher and calm and content with it. A bit different from RooRoo...

pav fingers crossed the...ahem...night time thing with R happens again tonight!

juicy was Harvest Festival at my school today too but in the afternoon so I missed it. Was very touched that one of my little ones (I only teach 4 of em!) was disappointed I wouldn't be there!

MissI I would like C weighed as well. He has lost a lot of his chunkiness and slimmed down. He seems small but long. The GP has given some cream for C's rash. Lot's of nappy free time needed as well. I took the opportunity of asking the GP about C's hips. He examined him and was happy that the hips were fine. I feel relieved. As you said about your friend's baby not crawling, C is very calm and content too. He is very talkative and puts his efforts in to other things. The crawling is nearly there i think I'm sure he'll catch up in his own time.

Hi Everyone

Sorry for not popping in much recently. Rarely have any time to get on MN since DH is still working away every week and I'm shattered by end of day.

Scarlotti I'm thinking of you and hope that you find happiness after this difficult time. Hope you're feeling better afer your op too. x

Ninja Your job sounds so much more interesting than mine!

Pavlov Hope you're recovering after your accident and op. xx

Congratulations on the pregnancies! I wish I was pregnant again as I'm sooo broody but there's no way I could manage 3 under 4's with DH working away and no family to help.

So things in the Wizzy household have been ok recently (shouldn't say that in case something goes wrong). DD turned 3 on Friday but is going on 30 I think. She's been diagnosed with hearing problems and I'm off to hospital with her soon to see what can be done but just glad it's been caught relatively early.

Daniel is walking barely holding 1 finger but take that finger away, and he plops on the floor indignantly and issues a war cry to shatter windows before dragging himself up my leg for me to walk him again! Still also getting around with a commando shuffle on his tummy too, with much grunting and stopping to rest his head on the floor before carrying on! It reminds me of the bit at the end of The Ring when the ghost comes out of the well dragging herself along!!

Poor soul has got 4 teeth with 2 more trying to pop through at the top but not quite there. They're driving him and me mad, since he gnaws on everything (including unsuspecting toes) and has a permanently runny nose.

I'm off to hospital tomorrow since I've had a sore red eye for a month and after getting meds from GP once I plucked up courage to go, they haven't worked so have to go to eye casualty. Thursdays are normally spent with just me and Daniel doing nice things together while DD is at nursery so I hope I won't be in for too long...

Have booked a holiday! Am going to visit my sister in Salem, Massachussetts, for my 30th birthday in November. Day after birthday is Thanksgiving so looking forward to real American celebration. Just couldn't face spending my birthday surrounded by memories of my mum as I still find every day hard without her. At least in Salem, I can create all new memories without being surrounded by my loss.

Am going back to work on 27th October and spent half a day in work today in preparation. Looking forward to adult conversation but worried in case I get any calls to stroke ward as I'm not ready to deal with things like that yet. Am also worried that the events of this year have made me very cynical so may not be the understanding person I once was when dealing with people's concerns.

Has anyone retrained later in life? I know I'm not exactly ready for retirement at 29 but I think I'd like to go into law and am really scared about making the decision to actually do a uni course... I wouldn't be able to do it for a couple of years what with two kids aged 3 and under as well as DH working away so much but I need to have a goal in sight. Inspirational stories anyone?

I've probably bored you all enough. Will try my best to get on here at least 3 times a week and keep up to date with you all. Knitted boobs for one and all!!

Forgot to say Fruit - Daniel had bad thrush and it kept returning until HV told me to keep putting it on 3 times a day for 4-5 days after rash clears up to get rid of thrush completely.

Hi all

Wizzy good to hear from you. I think retraining is a brilliant idea, I'd do it like a shot if I could afford to go back to Uni. Go for it - law is a brilliant choice

Two top teeth coming through here too so a few miserable nights, although one cracker in the middle where he slept through until 6! Needless to say it's not been repeated!

Fruit Ioan doens't bear weight on his legs either, if I hold him to stand he just crumples!

Might go to the clinic today too as haven't had him weighed for ages. Be interesting to see how he's getting on.
Going to brave dropping the dream feed this weekend too.

Hello Wizzy Hope the eye gets better soon. Have a lovely trip Thank you for the advice on the bum. I thought it was thrush but it's a bad case of nappy rash that has turned to excema. It doesn't seem to be bothering him thankfully.

Thanks scarlotti for letting me know about Ioan. My cousins daughter was called jelly legs as she didn't want to bear weight either. She is a very active toddler now! Had a couple of bad nights with teething too You forget how bad teething can get. Good luck with dropping the dream feed. I'm sure it's the best thing to do. Has your DH moved yet? Are you feeling ok about things?

Am just waiting for the grey lines at the top of his gums to turn into teeth ... I'm out on a works do tonight so it won't be tonight - no doubt tonight will be a rough night!

DH moves on Nov 3rd. Am ok, think it will be a positive thing for both of us, but not sure whether we'll manage to salvage it. I do wonder whether he'll actually prefer the part time responsibility to be honest..

Scarlotti You sound like you're a tower of strength and an inspiration. I hope things get easier soon. As for the teeth, I think Daniel may have just cut at least one of his lurkers as he keeps waking up screaming, red faced and won't let me anywhere near his mouth... I bloody hope he has, anyway!

He's just started thrashing around his cot tonight, more so than his usual wriggles and when I went into him to see why he was screaming rather than just his usual yells before going straight back to sleep, I kept finding him upside down, head wedged at the bottom corner of his cot at an awkward angle and an arm protruding through the bars. I'm soooo paranoid since my friend who did some of her medical training in paediatrics told me about a case where a baby was brought in with a broken arm and social services were called. After the baby was removed from the parents and finally returned (with another family member present with the parents at all times), it was decided that actually babies can break their limbs if they thrash around their cots... He's managed to bang his cheekbone and has an Adam Ant style stripe across his face. Thank goodness I'm not going to baby clinic with him tomorrow!

Hope those of you trying to cut out the dream feed have a restful night tonight. We tried feeding D up with porridge at suppertime followed by Hipp Organic Night Time milk or whatever it's called for a few weeks and I don't if it was sheer coincidence or not but he started to sleep through immediately. We're now back to giving him porridge and a normal formula bottle at bed time and he's still sleeping through (colds and teeth permitting that is!). Sometimes wish I was still breastfeeding but after the incident where he bit me with his new teeth leading to a gashed nipple, I gave up. Am now rapidly putting on all the weight that I lost grr. Off to listen to my Paul McKenna's hypnosis cd to see if he really can make me thin... Night all x

Congratulations katster.

Hi all,

It's great being back on here when I get a minute!

DWB I am really not sure I have any milk left even now! it feels like it has gone, but S still suckles for comfort I think, but not much. I was worried that if I stopped, he would get jealous when the new baby arrived?!?! This is possibly nonsense but I am feeling guilty about how the new baby will affect S and whether he will be traumatised! Please tell me, all you multiple-children-mummies, that your eldest did not mind when a new one came along?!

Hobnob I am with you on the full-teaching-exhaustion days. I only do Thurs and Fri, but DH is out at a concert tonight, so I had to come home to a whingey baby who has not napped or eaten ALL DAY at nursery (and hence is v v grumpy), do teabathbed, and am now at a loss! I definitely can't possibly do the washing up though, I am toooooo tired.

Pavlov any more undisturbed nights??? (I am whispering, of course). We had one , the first ever- 7pm - 5 am, on Wednesday night. I went to bed last night thinking, "Yay! Sleep!" and of course it was dreadful. Not helped by the maniac cat who was gallumphing round the flat all night. He has become really quite horrid since S arrived. He was a lovely cat before, but is now bitey and scratchy and basically not very nice

BBL hello!! Oooo go on, have one more baby ! Only joking. I marvel at anyone who manages more than one - I really honestly have no idea how you do it, and manage to do other things, eg get dressed, eat. Seriously.

Fruitpastels ooooo I hope your bridesmaid-ing went well! It was quite a nice day here I think? (I can't actually remember - but I don't remember it raining?!)

Ninjacat are you getting married in nine months??Yaaay!, congratulations!! Is it all organised? I agree - a 9-month-pregnant-bride might be a bit much, if you look anything like I looked last November... There is a photo, kindly taken by my lovely DH, of me in labour, and I look back and ask how on earth was it actually possible?? I swear you can see limbs and things through my stomach. Oh good, I have that all to come... Eeeek.

WizzyWoo great that you have booked a trip. I didn't realise you had lost your mum. I am really sorry. I hope time with your sister and in the US will help in some way. Hugs.

Scarlotti I'm sorry to hear you're having a rough time. It sounds like you are coping amazingly. Is DH moving far? I hope the teeth emerge soon too. S got four top teeth within two days, maybe he is also having a mammoth teething session?

Interesting to hear a few of you worrying about weight - I wonder if it's to do with their age, as S is also on the skinny side, he's dropped on his line thing, and I keep looking at him thinking he doesn't look to have much chubbiness about him. He is also pretty tall (he was 78.5cm when I took him to the clinic for the first time in aaages this week) and she remarked that he should weigh more. What am I supposed to do though?? I can't force feed him, and I am now making sure he has quite a bit of formula now my boobs seem to be drying up... Anyway...

Sorry for the long post. Been trying to catch up with everyone's news. Since I am in all on my own and daren't put the tele on as S is a ridiculously light sleeper at the minute, I think it may be time for a packet of Rolo's.... The excitement!!

Also meant to say - JuicyLips - we are practising for harvest assembly at school at the minute, it's next week, and in each rehearsal I nearly cry, thinking about how one day S will do assemblies and things!! I will definitely be an embarrassing cry-y mum!!

Katster I cry every time I go to a Harvest Festival or even worse, Christmas nativity. Seeing DS2 dressed as an angel and singing was just too cute for words.

The sibling thing is a challenge that's for sure but the rewards when they eventually get used to each other are fantastic. DS1 and DS2 are best mates, with the odd spat, and share a bedroom (although DS2 soon moving in with DS3). DS1 and DS2 now adore DS3 now he's moving around and laughing and giggling and being much more 'fun' than he was as a new born. As I type DS1 is playing with trains with DS3 (DS2 is in town with DH).

I would love one more but DH is a definite no-no. And if it were another boy... Four boys?? Oh my god!

I'm off out tonight, like, dancing and stuff, for the first time in years, and the first time since we moved here. I have no idea what people wear when they go 'out' and no idea what it's going to be like! I feel old!!! I'll have to wear makeup too I guess.

Oh BBL, tell me - how does it feel to go out and wear make up??! The only make up I wear these days is the imaginary eye shadow my little girl plasters on me with a purple rhino from her fuzzy felt safari set (applicator) and an old book light (palette) purchased during my heartburn days of pregnancy! It's a good thing it's imaginary, as I would resemble Storm Lee on X Factor tonight otherwise me thinks!

After a strange day yesterday when Daniel turned from chilled out baby (or "cooley dude" as DD calls him!) to demon from hell with toddler tantrums surrounding the stair gate being closed each time he escaped, I had a lovely day today! Proud mummy moment coming up...

DD turned 3 last Friday and started a little dance class today - bargain at £2 a session. She went with her cousin, who is 3 months older and very quiet and sensible. The room was filled with 3-6 year olds with their uniform of blue leotards and leggings so DD stood out like a sore thumb with her bright red leggings and Charlie and Lola t-shirt!

We were ushered out and because DD is a livewire I worried the whole hour that I would be asked to escort her out for disrupting the class. When we were asked to watch the tap routine from the back of the hall at the end, I was soooo nervous for her. I couldn't believe it when the music started and she copied all the steps, albeit a couple of beats behind each time, tongue sticking out with concentration. I swear I felt my heart swell, I was so proud of her! The teacher said she did really well especially for her first time so since DD has been asking me repeatedly when she can go back to see Miss Michelle, we'll be definitely going again next Saturday - I can't wait! She's always adored dancing so as long as she wants to go, I'll take her. A kind mum gave me a pair of tap shoes that her daughter has grown out of so DD was showing me her little tap steps in the kitchen tonight. Just discovered that tap shoes scratch wooden floors but it's a small price to pay to see her so happy!

Going to see Life As We Know It with my friend tomorrow tea time so can't wait. You never know, I might actually dust off my real adult make up (when DD isn't looking) for the occasion! Night all x

Hi everyone! Nice to see some old faces back, congratulations on your pregnancy katster! All this talk of pregnancy and babies is making me broody too but my dh is definitely not up for baby no 3!

Now that the babies are approaching 1 wonder if anyone else will return to this thread that we haven't seen for a while? I always wonder about people when they haven't been on for a while, if any of you are lurking and thinking 'oh, it's been too long' it doesn't matter, we would all love to hear from you!

I went out on Friday night to a lovely restaurant, got dressed up and had a couple of cocktails, was lovely! Then Millie decided to wake up at 2am and not go back to sleep until 5am, she sure picks her nights! I felt like death all day yesterday!

wizzy your dd sounds adorable, no wonder you are so proud!

BBL hope you enjoyed your night out

Scarlotti hope ds' tooth is through so he can start to feel better. Sorry things are still not good between you and dh but hopefully him moving out will make things better. Absence makes the heart grow fonder and all that!