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March 2010 - Six months in - will they ever sleep?

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Arcadie · 28/08/2010 08:56

Welcome to the latest thread for mums of babies born in March ( and a few in Feb and one in April!).

Come on in. Find out who'll be pg next and who's weaning onto what.

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DrSkidaddle · 10/09/2010 21:33

oh forgot to say my DS1 (age 2) uses doublebase cream for his excema - it is the only thing that we have found to work after a hundred different things - I would highly reccommend it

DrSkidaddle · 10/09/2010 21:34

sorry eczema Blush

DrMcDreamy · 10/09/2010 21:40

Hi All, I'm quite new to MN and wondered if I could poke my nose into this thread having a wee March 10 baby - who turned 6 months today!

Arcadie · 10/09/2010 21:51

Hi McDreamy - I too LOVE Grey's anatomy! Welcome. Enjoy the silliness and contribute to the whinging. We're in the throes of organising meetups which is what MMMM is The mad march mums meetup. Just to fill you in on the acronyms. What's your story? First? 9th? Boy? Weaning? Sleeping?

And Skid lovely to hear from you. Sorry I've dropped off Dec07 - only time to lurk on here mostly. How're you doing? Sorry to hear that M's not eating well. Have you tried bottle first thing in the morning? It's how DD learned to take one. She was so hungry she snorked it down and never looked back!

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DrMcDreamy · 10/09/2010 21:58

Grin Cheers me dears. We have a wee boy our second DC (getting my acronyms right Wink) our first being 7 and a girl. Ok life story over with, let the whinging commence! Started weaning 2 weeks ago, tried BLW for about 3 seconds and ended up mushing it down and spoon feeding him, he'll pretty much shove everything in his gob. EBF until weaning and still feeding like a demon - including all night! Have 4 teeth so helps explain the sleepless nights. That toothy grin makes it all so much more bearable. Oh and I'm a midwife (despite the name - I LOVE Grey's) so I probably would have been more use on this thread a year ago!

SmacsGonePotty · 10/09/2010 22:00

Welcome back DrSkidaddle nice to see you again. I do recall that we were sharing our overdue frustration at the same time as we were both early on the due date list - seems like a lifetime ago now Wink
Nice to see you too shroomer so sorry to hear that sex is still painful and I really hope you find some one understanding and make some progress.
Welcome too to DrMcDreamy tell us a bit more about yourself and your wee March 10 baby. Are you Scottish ?
We are all very friendly here verging on the slightly insane and there is talk of a MMMM (that's Mad March Mum Meetup) in York in November.
Mummyelk I too have been chuckling inwardly at the actimel/aptimel confusion. Like you I'm swithering about introducing some forumla and went shopping for actimel aptimel myself. I've got two cartons on stand by. I was heading out to a meeting last night and didn't know how much I would manage to express (only 4oz in the end) but as it happened DD2 was very calm, didn't miss me and Daddy didn't have to use the EBM or formula.
I tried her on the EBM tonight (just to use it up really) and she happily guzzled about 3oz which is real progress for us as previously we were having a bottle stand off.
BLW is going a bit better. I've not done any purees but I have spooned a bit of weetabix and a bit of yogurt although she is very keen to grab the spoon and catapult it across the room at every opportunity.
Tooth number three is just about to come through, another one on the bottom (following the same pattern as DD1)
Not got much other news. Still lots of night feeding going on here but other than that can't really grumble.
Oh yes I know rebecca is on holiday but she did want nagged about booking a smear. There was a terribly sad thread on here the other day here if that's not a wake up call to make an appointment then I don't know what is.
pixie hope DD2 is recovering. She is having such a hard time of it.
I'm sure there was much more I wanted to say but can't remember.
Good luck to those of you going back to work, it must be hard leaving your babies though Sad

DizziDoll · 10/09/2010 22:07

arcadie your poor DH. Hope all will be ok soon. The cream i have is diprobase. His skin is bad again today though i have heard good things about Unguentum Merck too.

DrMcDreamy · 10/09/2010 22:09

Not Scottish but not too far from there Smile

SmacsGonePotty · 10/09/2010 22:41

sorry managed to x posts there as I was writing a bit of a long one Blush I'm totally ignorant about Grey's so didn't get the name which was why I asked if you are Scottish and your use of the word 'wee'.
I'm Scottish but don't live there anymore Sad but there are a couple of Scottish (resident) MMM here.
I'm sure you would have been bombarded with questions if you had been here last year. Poor pacific did a wonderful job though as our resident GP Smile
I think I've missed something arcadie what is up with DH? Still trouble post op?
Oh and manda how are you ? You've gone quiet again! Did you have any more Dove shoots? [nosey emoticon]

FlipFantasia · 10/09/2010 22:46

Just time for a flying visit

Arcadie Sad for your DH - what an awful time he's been having (and can't have been any fun for you either). My DH had testicular cancer 6 years ago. Having a testicle removed is definitely no walk in the park, so I really hope it doesn't get to that. Though if they think it may be cancer then it's inevitable (DH was also quite chipper about it, but that's how he gets through stuff...).

OK, baby has awoken.

SmacsGonePotty · 10/09/2010 22:52

ah sorry Arcadie I've scrolled back and read the news. Poor MrRKD Sad sorry to hear of the continuing pain and complications and more surgery Sad.

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Arcadie · 10/09/2010 23:01

Flip Do you mind if I pick your brains on the testicle removal? I'll message you on FB so you don't have to overshare on here.

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BlueyDragon · 11/09/2010 16:41

Sariska, what a beautiful story.

Arcadie, your poor DH. Hope they get it sorted.

Welcome DrMc and welcome back DrSkid.

Alex is eating huge amounts, or at least seems to be. The mess is driving me bonkers and is subject to a whole new set of laws of physics that Stephen Hawking is scared to study (HOW did he get breadcrumbs in his nappy?), but he's clearly happy with this eating lark. He's also less keen on milk now, but surely it's too early for him to be cutting down?

What a sad thread about the lady who had cervical cancer. But I have tried to book my smear and thought it sensible if it was done at the same time as my coil check. Cue comedy conversation with the doctor's receptionist with both of us trying to avoid saying "while she's down there".

Sorry, am on the iPhone so no bold/full shouts.

angfirsttimer · 11/09/2010 19:53

Arcadie sorry to hear about your DH

Welcome DrMc

Thanks for the suggestions of creams for ezcema dr Skid did you mean diprobase? pixie I am head in sand that it might be food allergies, nothing in particular seems to flair it up though and he has never reacted to anything via boob milk... [fingers crossed emoticon]

Bluey My DS is also less keen on milk, particularly his one formula feed a day..Hmm I also thought it must be too soon for him to be cutting down, he barely eats anything, mostly ends up in his clothes/ears/on floor. But I think it is more similar to Dr Skid's situation my DS going without food until breast feed. Past three days he has refused his bottle feed mid morning. He went from 8.30 to 4pm today with nothing but a suck on a rice cake. I dont want to give in and BF am desperately trying to stop and feel that I can't let him win, I feel like such a bad mother letting him go hungry just cos I dont want to BF anymore. please tell me I am not doing him any harm?!

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Grizzer · 11/09/2010 22:19

Hi All,
It's been ages since I last posted, haven't had much chance to catch up but after quick read it sounds like some of you have been going through a rough time. I hope things improve soon.
Hope you don't mind me picking your brains after such a long absence but I've had a few health issues & as someone who barely even had a cold before I gave birth, I'm starting to panic about every thing that happens now. Soooo, had huge blood clot 4 weeks after birth & while in hosp they discovered retained placenta. It was all dealt with &, although I'm on Warfarin (affectionally known as rat poison) all was fine.
But... I finished breast feeding 2 months ago & have not had a period yet. I wasn't too worried about that but for both months since I stopping feeding I've had chronic abdominal pain, and I'm not a normally melodramatic but I was on the verge of calling an ambulance the other day but convinced myself to wait for DH to come home & by that time pain was subsiding. Anyway, basically I'm totally non medical & naive when it comes to health so I'm wondering if anyone knows if surgery to remove placenta could result in any kind of internal issues that could prevent periods but cause the chronic pain (not period pain as I know it, much stronger)I rang dr but don't know if it's best to make appointment now while I have no pain or wait til next month & see if it happens again. Sorry for very long post, any advice gratefuly received Confused

Arcadie · 11/09/2010 22:33

Hi Grizzer - I'll wait for Pacific to do the diagnosing. Absolutely sucks to be on Warfarin - so sorry. Really nasty pain when you should have a period sounds like endometriosis but the only advice I can give you is to go see a sympathetic GP and get it checked. I'm guessing with the surgery and meds they'll want to get you checked out. Really hope you manage through the pain ok - it's so rubbish to be feeling ill as well as all the normal stresses of small babies.

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FlipFantasia · 11/09/2010 23:07

arcadie have messaged you on FB

iwcas have fun in Wales! Am Envy of you meeting smac.

grizzer sorry to hear of your health issues - I'd also suspect endometriosis, but I have no idea really so I think a trip to the GPs would be the best idea...hope it gets sorted soon.

Amazing how long the babies can go without milk...DS can go for hours when we're out and about (and he's busy taking in the world) but it's usually every 2 hours when we're at home. Ang I don't think you're doing him harm! I have no idea really but I'd think your DS will feed when he's hungry, so if the bottle is offered he'll take it if he needs it. Fingers crossed he gets to grips with it soon so you can tail off the BFing.

Had a lovely day today, NCT nearly new sale in the morning (picked up bargaintastic toys for DS that aren't too massive in our small flat), then coffee and muffins at my favourite cafe with my favourite NCT friend and her husband (who my DH gets along great with - our babies got to try croissant chunks, which seemed to be a big hit with them both!), then popped in to see a nursery that I could actually imagine DS in (which is slightly freaky for me!), then into central london for the Thames Festival (I heart the South Bank). We had lunch at the "Feast on Southwark Bridge" - twas great fun and I got a little tipsy on rose made from London grapes Smile.

Am fully expecting an awful night from an overtired baby but am prepared to pay the sleep tax for the lovely day we had today!

FlipFantasia · 11/09/2010 23:11

Oh and hello drskid Smile. Was wondering about you recently (my fellow driving test passer). Sounds like reverse cycling on the feeding (Kellymom has info on it) but no direct experience myself. Glad that you're happy to be back at work! I'm still head in sand about it (6 months-ish before I head back myself) but need to get my flexible work app in this week so I can arrange the follow up meeting [procrastination emoticon as am expecting the request to be denied...]

DrMcD hello and welcome Smile.

PacificDogwood · 12/09/2010 17:12

Hi, peoople, just back from the Hell that is Soft Play Area with tired but happy children which is all that counts really Smile.

And thank you for your lot not disowning me for my bad mummy melt-down. And thanks for the stories (Pixie and Melk Grin); they helped. A lot.

My dad is doing ok. I think Hmm. He had more pain earlier this week, so made an appointment with his doctor for.... tomorrow. Gah. He just does not get that an embolus is actually dangerous. And I don't really know how to put it any blunter than I already have ("Dad, this could kill you"). Denial is a powerful thing; I should know as it is my main coping strategy Blush.

Weaning: well, wee Joe is not very interested, neither in my delicious purees Wink nor in anything he can hold in his hand. Still likes boobie though... Nights have been v disrupted as we all have a horrendous cold with lots of coughing and night time wakening going on by all boys. Even all the good BM has not protected Joe Sad, bother! TTSP, TTSP, TTSP...
I am very impressed with everybody cooking proper meals for their young ones. And crawling....

Shroomer, sorry you are still having problems from your undercarriage. I suppose it just goes to show that pregnancy in itself plays havoc with our bodies; not just the way we deliver.... What you are describing are typical pelvic floor muscle problems. Did the physio help at all? How specialised was the physio you saw? Did she do an internal exam (feel free not to answer if you'd rather not)? It is really good that you will get to see a gynaecologist, ideally somebody with an interest in urology (there are some uro-gynaecologists, but they can be a rare breed).
Hope you get better really soon. I know you know this kind of thing won't kill ya, but it certainly affects quality of life, so boo hiss to that! And Envy at your DS's sleeping habits...

Sariska, your story about using your friend's name and her mother's response to that made me well up. So lovely to remember your friend like that, and equally nice of her mother to let you have such a personal memento Smile.

Arcadie, your poor DH! He sounds v calm about it all... I am sure this is not what he signed up for when he went for a straightforward snip. Hope is better now and still in possession of all his crown jewels Grin.

Hi, DrSkid, of course we remember you Smile! Good to hear from somebody who has successfully returned to work (I am dreading it and less than 3 weeks to go, yikes!).
Totally agree, it sounds like your clever baby is doing reverse cycling; might be knackering for you, but is a Good Thing for your LO. If you can keep it up, keep going.

Oh, also ment to say, re eczema creams: Doublebase, Diprobase, Epaderm, Aveeno - they are all emollients/moisturisers of some kind or another. What agrees/helps most repends A LOT on how often and how much you apply (in hospital derm nurses apply moisturisers every 2 hours!) and whether or not there are any allergies to any of the ingredients. Ie Lanolin, great moisturiser unless you are allergic to wool fat, natch! Can be difficult to figure out and can take a lot of trial and error.
DS2's eczema always does a lot better when his creams make it out of the tub/tube onto his skin Blush....
And sorry, I cannot help on the food allergy front, don't know a lot about it and a lot of food 'intolerances' get lumped together with genuine allergies ...

DrMcDreamy, hello and welcome, I have 2 10th March babies: Joe and DS2 Grin. Also love Grey's so please stay and contribute to the madness that is this thread Grin.

And Grizzer, don't worry about no period after 2 months yet, may still happen. However go and see your Gp, get some bloods done (blood count, thyroid, hormones) and take it from there. Retained placenta and removal thereof should not really impact on periods, I don't think. Neither should warfarin. And why are you on warfarin in the first place? Or rather where was your blood clot? I take it it was not just a simple collection of blood inside your womb, no? Sorry, I am rambling

Righto, Joe is grizzling in DH's arms, mummy to the rescue. Laters!
Smile

DrSkidaddle · 12/09/2010 22:54

Hello and thank you for remembering me! Smile

Envy of all these babies who eat so much. My DS2 was a bit better today - had some yoghurt, banana and sucked on a rice cake so am feeling a bit more positive.

And thanks for info re reverse cycling (had never heard of it) - is it good for the baby because they get more BM? But don't they also need other food? And not good that he's really upset Sad

pacific - hope your return to work goes well - will you be working full time? I am actually loving having some time to myself and drinking coffee while still hot [shallow emotion] but I guess your job is a bit more hectic ...

flip - wow that sounds like an amazing day and I bet DS sleeps like a dream after so much excitement!

grizzer - poor you Sad Hope you get some good medical advice soon and can do something to make it better, sounds awful

ang - No, the one we use is called Doublebase - but I guess they all do the same thing and it's a matter of finding the one that works best for you. It is consoling that I am not the only one with a non-eating baby although obviously I wouldn't wish it on you! Is your DS OK not eating/drinking for such a long time? If so then I don't see any reason to 'give in'. My problem is that my DS is really upset when he starves himself - my neighbour has told me that he cries most of the morning when I'm not there Sad - so I really want to do something about it. If your DS is OK then there's no harm and continuing and he will surely eventually have some formula/food [crossed fingers emotion]

Sariska · 13/09/2010 08:06

Uh, Monday morning again and DD again woke up - in my bed - at 5ish soaked through. Bloomin' nappies.

Nice to "see" you, Dr S.

Sorry your father is being a bit cloth-eared, Pacific. I suppose a lot of people are like that about their health but it must be hard when it's your own dad.

Just popping my (rather cobwebby) employment lawyer's hat on for a minute, Dizzi, your boss' request for your CV might be innocuous, if a bit cack-handed. However, the fact is that if you have 9 months or less of mat leave you are entitled to return to the same job. Wanting to match your skills to projects might well fall within that description if that's something that would happen in the normal course of events. If, however, he's looking to change your job description, that's a whole different kettle of fish. Plus, of course, if you take more than 9 months off your entitlement is to return to a comparable job. Does that make sense? Sorry, am not sure I have explained myself well. I am, as usual, tired....!

evitas · 13/09/2010 09:31

Hello DrSkidaddle. It's good to know that I'm not the obly one back to work!

welcome DrMcDreamy

Dizzi thanks for the comments on the blog :) I hope I don't have many typing errors - I want you to learn the perfect portuguese!

I need your help, any advise on how to cope with a screeching baby?

x

DrMcDreamy · 13/09/2010 09:35

Thanks for the welcome all. Another Monday morning heralds the dawn of another week without sleep. Yawn. I have somehow managed to volunteer myself to look after my friends 11 month old this morning and pick up my 6 year old nephew from school this afternoon. I just want to sleeeeeeeep.