May 2005 babies - part 2

[logic]

Hello! How is everyone? Dd is finally sleeping in her own bed - yay!

Don't worry, northstar, it happens to everyone. In fact, I don't know anybody who's baby hasn't wriggled off something or tripped down some stairs.
They are getting so strong now aren't they?

shhhh, i've got 2 :

dd born 3.75 yrs ago, birth went - waters broke at 9.17pm, went in to be checked, came home, lasted until 5am, went back to hospital, was 8cm!!!, had pethadine and gas & air, started pushing at 8am, born 9.17am. 12 hrs exactly from start to finish, no assistance or episiotomy.

ds born 27.05.05, contractions started about 11pm, got in bath a 4, rang my mum at 5.30am to ask her to come over and look after dd. 7.15am arrive at hospital, was 4cm, sat on birthing ball til 10. had waters broken at 10.30, was 6cm, went from 6 to fully dilated in 3 contractions!!!, waited for head to come down, started pushing at 11.40am, ds born at 11.50am. no assistance, episiotomy and only had gas & air.

was a little (no, alot!!) more aprehensive about 2nd birth and spent the last fortnight convinced it was starting. if i do it again, i'm treating myself to an epidural!

both my pregnancies were exactly the same length too, both born 5 days early

ds has discovered a new noise this week, a really loud shouty scream. as soon as i come running, he just sits there smiling (and dribbling)

Lucykate, your experiences of both births sound calm! Your labours were longish though..compared to mine anyway! My waters broke at 1am (day/1hour (!!) after due date) and dd was born at 3.46pm that day...MW says total labour was 10hr 50 mins..I did have a waterbirth and was pushing for around 2-3 hours so needed sitocin(sp??) drip to get contractions going again...What worries me is that like you with your 2nd, I know what is going to happen and the feeling of needing the "toilet" (iykwim) is horrendous! Its like you have been constipated for over a month (Like I have ever have been! LOL!!)I suppose you just have to deal with it but although this time I amazed myself by how calm I was I worry that next time I will totally freak. Was the experience better because you knew what to expect.??

DD has also discovered she has a voice this week and shouts similar to your ds! Its quite funny as she just sits there shouting and using the high pitch of her voice. Sometimes she looks around as if to say "who on earth is making that racket"!! She is also a little giggler! When I wash her neck at night she holds her chin down and giggles, its so cute! I can tell she is tickerlish already! How cute is that! Its nice seeing our ds & dd taking on their own litle mannerisms isn't it..?!

Can't believe i'm on mn at this time but dh is out with the lads so I'm home alone!

Shhhh, I was slightly more aprehensive about the 2nd birth because I knew what was coming but I thought I'd have a very similar experience. I hadn't had any sort of pre-labour with ds so I was really shocked when I had pre-labour for 6 weeks with dd! Her birth was a lot worse but only because she was a lot bigger. Still managed with just gas+air and the water though.

thats one of my concerns as well logic..dd was 9lb 4oz which is big for a first baby and big for me (i'm only 4ft 11 ins). I'm worried that future babies may be bigger (esp as dh & I oriinally wanted 5!!! Don't think that will be happening now). When you say your 2nd was bigger, by how much..?
Does anyone else have any experience/advice. Thanks

I'm not very tall/big either and my first baby was 7lbs 2 + 1/2 oz which was about as expected. Dd was 8lbs 11 + 1/2 oz. Now, I knew she was much bigger and told my GP but he denied it. Obviously I was right and I should have been induced a couple of weeks earlier to be on the safe side but she still fitted in my pelvis even at that weight. You should be ok as long as you trust your instincts. My friend gave birth to a 11lb 9oz baby naturally a few months ago!

hi everyone, lol at the talk of 2nd babies!! ikwym about being aprehensious, i really don't fancy it, but dp is always going on about when we can have the next one. he's obsessed! at least i know he loves us! i really don't think i could go through 30 weeks of sickness again (and getting fat and big ugly stretchmarks and the stitches from hell)! although dd is worth it a million times over i hated every minute of being pg.

the poor little lamb is teething, i put her to bed about half an hour ago and she's already woken up 4 times grabbing at her mouth. just looked at her gum at the bottom and it's all white, does this mean a tooth is coming? have given her some calpol so hopefully it should kick in soon.

weaning is going well, i just can't believe how much she eats. all the info i've read says to make up food and put in ice cube trays. well that is a bit pointless coz she eats 4-5 cubes of veg and 2 of fruit twice a day, plus baby rice at breakfast! she is on the 91st percentile!

wow i've gone on, but so much happens every day. i'm probably going back to work within the next few weeks so i'm going to miss all the little daily steps she makes. she laughed for the 1st time the other day and i burst into tears because it may be the last first i see myself.

hollya, if you have to go back to work then don't feel bad! The truth is, you will probably see the "firsts" because you'll be the one encouraging her to walk etc at the weekends anyway. Believe me, see one tooth coming through and you'll be counting the days until the teething is over.

hooray, calpol has kicked in. the poor little soul was in a right state, all hot and red and clawing at her gum. she must have been feeling grotty coz she's fallen asleep sucking a dummy, which she's never done b4, usually she just spits them out.

thanx for making me feel better logic, i suppose feeling guity is part of being a mum!!

hollya dh is the same about having more babies! Hes always asking me when we can start on the 2nd one! We go away in 6 weeks time and he wants it to be like our honeymoon last year where dd was conceived , he keeps suggesting a 2nd chance honeymoon baby LOL!!!

Thanks for your advice Logic, I knew dd was going to be big but mw advised me she was average! But I coped well with the birth and amazed myself by doing it in water and with gas & air.Like you said suppose our bodies tell us whats right & wrong & I suppose I am only able to carry what I can deliver safely (well thats the idea ).

Anyone watch that Jordan & Peter prog on Fri..? I did..Sorry but I really don't like them now...I can't help watching or reading about them though! Think I have gone off her as she made the pregnancy and birth look so easy! LOL!! How on earth she managed to wear "normal" clothes when 9 months pregnant and to even look half decent is beyond me! Even the fact that she was back to her pre pregnancy size within days after the birth ...I have been trying so hard to loose my last 1-1.5 st & it aint going nowhere! Maybe I need to be a celebrity .

Broody already? I have started giving my kids' old baby clothes to the charity shop. Ha.

Shhhh, just remember that all the celebs have personal trainers and dieticians and couture clothes. Otherwise, they would look like us :-))
9 months up, 9 months down!

ewww, isn't jordan hideous!! that programme was just awful, but like all horrible things, i just couldn't bring myself to stop watching. those women that are "too posh to push" are just big wimps! and peter andre is such a wuss, if my dp went on like that, all gushy and stuff, i'd give him a slap and tell him to pull himself together. it made me want to puke!

shhh i still have about a stone and a bit to lose. it's really upsetting when you go into a shop and have to buy 2 sizes bigger than you used to be! all these celeb women are just evil, making people think they are abnormal for having baby fat. my philosophy is that our main priority is looking after our babies not ourselves. us normal people are less self involved and would rather spend time with our families than on getting thin.

aww thanks holly & logic..you have made me feel better about myself! I felt like having a sign hung around my neck saying "i'm not fat, I have just given birth" ! Haa.. I went out with the girls last week and I was so ready with my reply if anyone dared to comment..thankgod noone did, dh and mum both said "you don't have to tell anyone anything, if they comment on your weight just tell em where to go"! Madness as it's society that has made women like this and celebs don't help. But like you said hollya, i'm more concerned with my family than some diet & fitness routine.

About Jordan: I really find her & pete OTT but I can't stop watching them or buying the mags..I think its because I so want to see them fail .The comments she made sickened me as what will her boys think when they are able to understand her.??? The comments she made about how she got pregnant, the fact that pete didn't "shoot his load" (lykwim) each time...euugghh..Poor junior, to know that was how he was made. And that the rest of the population knows it as well! I would want dd to know that daddy & I had so much love for each other that we decided to make a momento .!

Logic, yup I think looking back at the posts I am getting broody.... & . Oh my god...!!!!!! Anyone else.??

Feeling bad today as I was so nasty to dh yesterday, just got af for first time in 15 months & it depresses me. DH says its a positive thing as at least my body is getting back to its old self. Bless him. I have apologised to dh and he's understanding but it still doesn't make me feel any better

I missed the Jordan and Pete programme, must have been too busy on here

Shhh, when I was pg with DS1 I absolutely hated it, I think it was because I'd never been big and I got all the stretch marks, was uncomfortable etc. Labour that time was an absolute mare, only really painful for 4 1/2 hours but it was 4 1/2 hours from hell! Pushed for about 1.5 hrs had pethadin and gas & air, tore and had stitches, BUT had (and still have) a beautiful baby boy!

When pg with DS2, I actually enjoyed being pg and seeing my body shape change, but was still apprehensive about labour and delivery. When the time came, I was in labour for 2 hours 11 mins, really painful for the last ten mins, pushed for 4 mins (after only JUST making it onto the hospital bed had 3 breaths of G&A and no tear! So now I have 2 beautiful baby boys! If I get pg again I don't think I'll bother trying to get to hospital

My dp was talking about having more too! He saw a brother and sister playing together and was saying how nice it was and it would be good for dd. This after I had to do some serious persuasion to have 1 and he was adament that we'd only have 1. My heart thinks another would be nice, but I hated being pregnant and labour was awful (4 days in early stages in and out of hospital and using tens, waters gone, then induced and pethedine, epidural - partly worked - and episiotomy.) worth it though.
Also the cost and the being off work for longer, would need more room, and my poor sister is run ragged looking after her two as her second is soo much work. Don't know what we'll do, but may put baby clothes in loft instead of selling them!

Hi LittleB, I know how your sister feels, I'm run ragged with my two, but it's my eldest who is the hard work. People say you never get 2 the same but I didn't think they'd be poles apart!

At least I'm not the only one who has been thinking/discussing more babies! I'm not keen on getting pregnant now as it took us ages to finally get dd & I really want to appreciate her (not that you don't if you have more than one), it's just that I want to be able to give her all my time now for a while longer. I don't want her to get any bigger which apparently is stange for the first (as per some people)..I want to cherish it all. I feel that if I get pregnant with the 2nd then if I'm ill again during the pregnancy and once baby2 arrives I won't have as much time...But thinking back I remember you guys on this thread with more than one worrying about the same thing..Think its my hormones still all over the place .

See littleb & maddison although stressful I actually liked most of my pregnancy and I loved finding out how baby was growing etc & how I was expanding.Although I must admit it did stress me on occasions when I caught sight of myself . I give up looking now!! It amazed me though. I hope i'm like that with future babies...Sadly I can't use lack of space as an argument with dh. We live in a 5 bedroom place and dh plans to fill them all! With babies of course.!
Looks like each pregnancy and each baby is different. Suppose thats the scary part.

ps You didn't miss much on the jordan prog.!!

I know what you mean about wanting to enjoy your baby before worrying about having more. The time with them seems to be passing so quickly, I can't believe how fast they are growing up. I get excited when she does something new like rolling over, but its more steps away from her being a baby!
We've just been to our first babylates class, we really enjoyed it, and its a bit like a mother and baby club but we can try and get back into shape at the same time!

hi all

well i won't be thinking about having a baby for a while yet, my pregnancy was awful with sickness all the way through and although the labour wasn't that bad (due to epidural) i wouldn't want to go through in again in a hurry, and i think i will be more nervous the second time round coz i will know whats coming. i will have more coz i don't just want one, and all the trouble and pain is so worth it in the end. but i think ill be waiting till ds starts school so thats a good 5 yrs away.

i love watching him do new things, but it is kinda sad too coz you know they are growing up and every new thing they do is making them less of a baby iykwim. but it is great that they are all doing so well and learning so fast.

taking matthew for his injections in 1 hour and 45 mins im so scared, even though he was fine last time i think he might be worse this time coz he might understand pain more now (or am i just being stupid) but im hoping he'll be ok and if not theres always calpol to rescue me.

take care everyone xxx

matthewsmummy how did the jabs go today? In my experience with dd the more I went for the jabs the better it seemed! The 1st lot dd (& i !!)cried loads until we were home. The 2nd lot she cried still but until we had left the room.The final time she cried only after the 2nd jab had been given and only for 10 secs...like I said it seemed to be easier each time, as though she knew what was coming and the fact that she didn't want them as they hurt but she soon stopped almost like the pain and stress had gone.

I'm dreading the mmr jabs when she is 1....Thats my concern, when she is active and more aware of things. Hope it all went well for you today.

thanx shhhh, they went fine. he screamed while they were being done but after about a min he had forgotten and was talking to the people in the waiting room as we left. he was pretty much the same as last time, maybe even a little better so im pleased and glad its over, just one more lot to go now. he has a red lump on one of his leg where the jab was but it seems to be getting better already.

at home with him today as i don't have college on a thurs or fri yet so its nice to have some time with him. hes asleep at the mo but prob not for long so better go

take care everyone xxx

Can't believe it, dd has slept through the night for 4 nights in a row :-)) She sleeps from 10/11pm until 8/9am without waking for a feed! It's a miracle. Her eyes are fine too btw according to the eye doctor.

yeah Logic !!! Hope the nights continue! Good news on dd eyes as well. Things are going well for you at the moment.DD adopted the same sleep pattern and then slowly it changed to 9pm till 8/9am and now its around 7/8pm till 7/8am..I'm not to bothered about the tie dd wakes in the morning (as long as its after 6am ) but its night having a few hours a night with dh. Although we are both so tired at the moment it's usually not long after dd that we go to bed as well .!

Gald dd's eyes are fine Logic, and good to hear she's sleeping through well. My dd's sleeping fine and is all over her cold now, but I do have a bit of a problem. She now won't take a bottle from anyone other than me and dp. mil (sort of - not married) looks after her occasionally and will be looking after dd when I return to work (part time, december) she used to take a bottle from her fine, but now starts, looks up and realises its not us and starts screaming, even with me there talking to her and trying to help. I hope she gets over this as its a bit worrying! I guess it might help when she's on solids. I can't wait to start feeding her, she seems very interested, but HV said to wait a bit longer if we can. She's 20 weeks now so I'm sure it won't be much longer though.

I know, Shhhh! Me and dh have actually managed to catch up on the whole of last season stargate sg-1 (recorded in Feb!) and we're starting on the Doctor Who episodes very slowly. It almost as though we are getting a life back. Seriously though, it's lovely to see dd laughing, she's had so much pain in her short life. I'm starting to bond with her properly now.

I'm sure that your dd will take a bottle from your MIL if it's that or go hungry, littleb! She'll get used to it.

Hi everyone! Not got much to say but have got the chance to spend some 'quality time' () on MN as the kids are in bed and DH is out for the evening!

I think Bailey has got his first cold, he has been sneezing a lot and had a runny nose but seems to be coping quite well with it (unlike most men ). I must say though DS1 has been driving me round the bend, he has been off school for over a week now but I've got some work from the school to do with him and it's not the easiest thing to do when I've got Bailey wanting to feed every hour and a half! It's proving really difficult since DS1 is more for the computer than pens and paper! I literally have to force him to do it!

Well thats all for now, I hope everyone else has had a less stressed week than me!

And Logic, its great news about your DD's eyes, I'm glad things are looking up for you - and doesn't the world seem a brighter place after an unbroken nights sleep