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CherryPie3 · 17/08/2010 20:18

I know I'm not around a great deal lately but we don't yet have a PN thread - so here we are.

Love to all xxx

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Alicetheinvisible · 15/09/2010 16:36

Chulita Sad what a rubbish time. Can you make Lucy a milky drink and sit her down in front of the telly, make yourself a cup of tea then settle down with Sam? If the kids are being demanding and there is nothing i can do about it (like when i am driving) putting the radio on (quite loud if necessary) distracts us all from the screaming. Again, if i am desperate for DD to give me 5mins i make her a pink milk, give her a biscuit and put the telly on (Tom and Jerry is a favorite atm)

Bit of a shite day here. All went tits up this morning wrt leaving the house for playgroup. F has been really colicky when awake and puking up his feeds before falling asleep again. Took him to the HV and the advice is basically "Keep an eye on him" but the good news is that he has had a huge growth spurt and now weighs 10lb9oz!! What a bruiser!

Other bad news is that because i was at the HV i missed out on bidding for a nursing chair on ebay that went for £16 Shock gutted.

Chulita · 15/09/2010 17:26

I didn't mention the telly's on the blink...

MoonUnitAlpha · 15/09/2010 17:57

Your children are gorgeous Jaysfourth! Do you think Marianne will be a little blondie too?

Chulita do you have a really comfy sling you can pop Sam into? I have a stretchy Close carrier and find I can stick ds in it and pretty much forget about him Grin

Alicetheinvisible · 15/09/2010 20:12

Bugger! Colouring book and crayons?

Chulita · 15/09/2010 20:17

Ahhhh, peace is restored to the Chulita household. DH 'fixed' the tv over the phone, I consoled myself with copious amounts of tea/biccies, Sam cried himself to sleep while DD washed up her new tea set. I have since fed and cuddled Sam back off to sleep and am wondering why the frick I'm still awake when both the children are in bed. (maybe cos DD's not actually asleep yet)
alice have another look for chairs though,they come round pretty often.
moonunit I have a couple of slings and he's happy enough in them usually, he's just been really unsettled the last few days and even fusses in the Sleepywrap. I also get irritated after carrying him around all day, there's only so much I can take before I just want to put him down. He was in a wrap from 8 this morning til about 1pm, only out for nappies/feeding and then from 2pm til I had my mini-meltdown so I'm not ignoring him!

Alicetheinvisible · 15/09/2010 20:23

Thank god for that! Our telly always went on the blink whenever DH went away - they know!

WRT the chair, found a really nice new one with a stool on amazon for £99 so DH said he will order it Grin Just feel i am feeding a lot and getting such a neck and back ache from it.

F had a good feed at 5pm that he kept down but has been asleep in his carseat since Confused going to wake him up once DD is in bed. I don't like to wake babies, but he really hasn't had enough feeds today and i'm a bit worried.

MoonUnitAlpha · 15/09/2010 21:01

Fair enough Chulita! I wouldn't want to carry ds all day either.

Woodlands · 15/09/2010 22:39

I was emster - have namechanged after an AIBU thread that went a bit wrong!

alice i sympathise - I have gone on Cerazette and seem to be bleeding continuously, which is apparently a side effect. boo!

we have breastfeeding breakthrough! I decided to stop using lansinoh for a few days as I am allergic to lanolin and normally avoid it in handcreams etc. the manufacturers of lansinoh claim it is completely hypoallergenic but I thought I'd just check. anyway, since I stopped last Friday my nipples have rapidly healed and I've now had about 36 hours of pretty much pain -free breastfeeding! It might be a coincidence, but I doubt it - I'm just cross I have been slathering this stuff onto my poor sore nipples for the last 8 weeks...

Chulita · 16/09/2010 08:11

jaysfourth your girls are adorable!

alice sometimes they sleep better in their car seats don't they?! hope you had a good night!

woodlands there are alternatives to lanolin if you end up needing it, I use one from waitrose that's very good.

Alicetheinvisible · 16/09/2010 09:00

Morning Smile

How are things this morning?

Actually did have a good night! F slept from 11 - 2, then 2.30 - 5.30, then dozed til around 6.15ish. Not bad! Fed well at feeds too.

Need to change my diet. Apparently sugar and starch are very common causes of colic, and that is practically what i live off! Not sure how to change it without feeling hungry though! I need my carbs dammit!

CellyD · 16/09/2010 10:14

Alice my LO is quite colicky, I've been told by the HV and MW to avoid veggies like cabbage, spinach, onions etc... as they can cause babies to be gassy. I was also been told by others that dairy and citrus can also cause problems, but if I gave up everything on the list of suggestions I'd only be drinking warm water & have a baby that cries uncontrollably for about 1-2hrs each evening...

The HV also recommended Detinox yesterday for the colic, it's a bit stronger than infacol so I'm waiting to see if it makes a difference. Fingers crossed.

LittleMissSnowShine · 16/09/2010 10:16

We had an ok night too! Friends of ours brought their 3 month old round to meet Dara and they left about half 8 last night. He got a bit fussy, but then I fed him and he conked out lying beside me on the bed while I watched some tv. Fed him some hungry formula at about 11 and then he slept til about 2:45, breastfed him, he slept til about 5ish, gave him some more formula and he slept til half 8. He seems a lot calmer today too, so hopefully that was just a really horrendous growth spurt last couple of days - he even managed a few hours in his basket last night!!

So glad to hear there's other co sleepers out there! I think I'm going to buy a mesh guard rail for the side of the bed off ebay and try and make it as safe as possible since it seems to be the only way Dara will settle sometimes and anything for a quiet night lol

Hope everyone is well today!!

Alicetheinvisible · 16/09/2010 11:49

Celly the HV i saw seemed really sensible and said to only cut things down if they are excessive in your diet, or if you notice that they are affecting your baby. If all these foods hat people tell you not to have when bf meant colic then the asian countries would be full of colicky babies! She also mentioned camomile tea (for mum) and colief (for babies) some Dr's prescribe it as it is about £10 a bottle, but you have to have tried it for yourselves first apparently.

Yay for better night littlemiss

ElusiveMoose · 16/09/2010 15:23

Hi all,

Sorry I've been so totally absent for about a week - I'm finding life with a newborn and an almost-three year old pretty full on!

Good stuff so far... S is feeding like a little monster (even though he's FF and four weeks old I'm still sometimes having to persuade him to wait 2 hours between feedsShock), so he's getting pretty chubby. I thought maybe I should try to stretch him out a bit, but the one day I tried, he then woke up constantly in the night (normally he has one long sleep, about 4-5 hours between about 9pm and 2am), so we're now back to filling him up in the day so he won't feed so much at night. Other good stuff - he seems perfectly happy in his Moses basket (at night anyway), and sleeps very peacefully between feeds at night.

Less good stuff... DS1 is being seriously naughty at the moment (though still wonderful with S, thank god). I'm trying extremely hard to be patient and indulgent, but it's tough sometimes. Also, he now has a streaming cold, which is making him even grumpier. Other bad things - we're increasingly reliant on a dummy for S, which I didn't really want to do. Frankly, how anyone manages without a dummy when they've got an older child as well (unless their newborn is a total angel) is beyond me. Also, S may be very good at night but he sleeps very little in the day - yesterday he was basically awake from 11am until 9pm, with maybe an hour or two of sleep on and off between those times. The other slightly challenging thing is that DS1 has suddenly decided that now is the moment he wants to start potty training (having resisted it fiercely up until now). Sigh. I could really do without it, but given what a stubborn little boy he is, I think I'd be mad to refuse when he's finally showing an interest. So that's pencilled in for a couple of weeks' time, when DS is taking a week's paternity.

Phew! That's my news. Big hugs to everyone who's having a tough time of things. I have read everyone's posts, but no time to reply individually (DS1 is meant to be napping but is currently spelling in bed Hmm. He tends not to sleep when he's ill.)

Re co-sleeping, I think it's fine as long as you do it safely. And it can be much better than the alternative, if that means falling asleep holding your baby because you're struggling to get them to go down in their basket. I don't want to upset anyone, but when my HV came for the home visit the other day, she was laying it on quite thick about not falling asleep holding your baby. She then explained that the reason was that one of the mums under her care had lost her baby last week Sad Sad Sad. She'd been bf'ing her 3 week old in bed, fallen asleep with the baby in her arms, and the little girl had suffocated. I hope you don't mind me posting that, but it really upset me, and has made me extra extra careful about not falling asleep while burping and cuddling S after feeds at night.

Oh, and as for separate beds being bad for your marriage, I don't think it's a problem in the short term. DH and I have separate rooms during the week (and I'm not even co-sleeping!), and it definitely helps his (and therefore my) sanity if he gets enough sleep. We did the same with DS1, and started sharing a room full time again once DS was sleeping most of the night, at about 8-12 weeks IIRC.

Sorry for the monster post - it's feast or famine around here!!

mrsZaC · 16/09/2010 17:30

Hey ladies,

I'm so sorry I've not been in contact. Everytime I get to the computer to check up on you all I am whisked away to a crying baby either hungry or wanting cuddles. Right now I'm typing on DH's laptop with her over my shoulder (thankfully having a kip).

I'm sure most of you are going through similar things but I've really had a rough time with the breastfeeding. Nieve and I are being treated for thrush, she is putting on weight but very slowly and isn't yet back up to birth weight despite being 3 weeks old today. To make matters worse she has bad wind and needs to be comforted constantly, sleeping on my chest at night. Health visitor had suggested expressing between feeds yesterday so I was feeding her every 3 hours and expressing 1hr 1/2 after feeds and giving that to her aswell. She seems to have cottoned on to this herself and has triggered a growth spurt, she is now feeding every hour!! what a hugry madam. I wouldn't mind so much if I could put her down for 5 minutes, but as soon as she's on her back she screams the place down. She also still has a touch of jaundice so had to go for another heel prick test yesterday - poor wee mite. I think at the back of my mind aswell is the worry that DH is away on Monday for a week to work and I have no idea how I'm going to get anything done!!! My friend is buying a sling for us so hopefully that will arrive soon so I can at least have my hands free to get on with things!

Anyways I'm sure I'm not the only one suffering just now, and I'm much better with it all, really I am. I'm not crying quite so much now that our positioning and latch have improved - man that was PAINFUL! and I can cope with the sleepless nights, I just wish her feeding would improve a bit so it wasn't such a rigmarole! hopefully the trush will clear soon and we will be on the road to recovery. ON the plus side we got out loads last week, being very brave, into town a few times (once int he rain!!) out to mum and dads for the evening in the car, and even out for pizza with Dh's mum&sister at 10pm with her in the car seat - our cockyness was kicked into shape when she started to get colic and now we can't contemplate stepping out at the moment.

Well I'm sorry for anything I've missed and hope your all doing better than me!

girlsyearapart · 16/09/2010 17:44

hi all- finding it hard to post atm.

soooooooo tired. Tilly has gone from sleeping
7/8pm ish till 2/3 ish then feed and sleep again till 6/7 to waking 12/1 then again 4ish and fussing and not sleeping again until after the other dds wake at 7 so my day is starting at 4am..

both dds refused to nap today and are pushing me to the limits of my patience.. argggh

bellygazing · 16/09/2010 19:41

hi does anyone have any experience of dealing with babies with hip problems? They spotted Elodie had an unstable hip at her 1st paediatric check and after an ultrasound scan, they decided she needed to wear two nappies and be held in a certain way. But after 2 weeks the hip hadn't improved so she's now wearing a pavlik harness for at least 6 weeks. Altho it doesn't seem to bother her it's kind of knocked us all a bit - and it also means I can't feed in the same positions and we have been trying to master some new ones - which unfortunately seemed to coincide with a growth spurt which saw her feeding every hour through the night... Shock

If anyone has any advice, experience or suggestions it would be much appreciated.

LittleMissSnowShine · 16/09/2010 19:53

Elusive - Thanks for the co-sleeping info. I tried it last night at about 5am when Dara wouldn't go back to sleep but I made sure there was no way he could fall out of the bed, get wedged in anywhere and the duvet was nowhere near him and it got him back to sleep for 3 hours. Result!!

mrszac - Feel your pain with thrush!! I took amoxicillin for 2 weeks after labour for uterine infection and finished yesterday. Was really pleased that thrush hadn't reared its ugly head but today spotted a couple of tiny white patches in Dara's mouth and rash appeared on nipples for me. It's really sore! But got prescription today and going to be very careful with washing hands and boil washing our clothes and hope for the best. Hope things go well for you and Nieve - hard enough being a first time, breastfeeding new mum without this!!

We went out for tea this evening, while my mum and sis minded Dara for an hour and a half. Was really relaxing and lovely to be wearing make up and heels for a while. Glad to be back home and getting into pjs and getting a dvd on to watch now tho - can't believe how well behaved and quiet he was!! he's prob gearing up to be awake all night lol

chickieno1 · 17/09/2010 02:16

hi ladies
sorry first timer................ds (13 days old) has been awake for the last4 hours! he falls asleep in my arms but wakes up as soon as i put him in moses basket. he s a bit windy/gassy and i ve spent ages trying to wind him and we ve been using infacol for the last 2 days. he doesnt have a dirty nappy, i dont know what to do now. i m paranoid of falling asleep with him in my arms in case i suffocate him :(
also dh away for work tomorrow and sat and my sisters away for weekend too so needed some sleep tonight.

sorry about post just feel useless :(

he s feeding now even though i think he s windy but he was making the feeding cues????

what do people think about swaddling? is it safe? MW came out today for last visit and said swaddling is a no no cos increases risk of cot death! i hadnt heard that before and now has me paranoid as well!!! i think sleep deprivation not helping

sorry again about moany post

CellyD · 17/09/2010 04:32

Hi Chickieno, if you are still up with your LO, in the absence of the seasoned experts at this time of night, I would suggest warming up the Moses basket with a hot water bottle before you put your LO in. We had limited success with it (my LO stayed put for an hour, an improvement on the usual 10 mins). Also I've been told to (but not tried) wearing then putting a muslin cloth or t-shirt in with them as it will help them settle.
I hadn't heard about the swaddling SIDS link so can't really say much. My LO hates being swaddled as she prefers her hands free, problem being that when she's wriggling around with gas, her arms wave around & she wakes up...sorry I can't be more helpful, I'm sure once the others are up they can suggest other ideas. We changed from infacol to dentinox, but the jury is still out as to levels of success.
My one handed typing is pretty hit and miss so apologies for any typos. Hang in there! The pros in our ranks say it gets easier, we have to believe them!

cazzybabs · 17/09/2010 08:19

chickieno1 - I have never heard that about swaddling and cotdeath - swaddling is the only way dd4 sleeps as she has such a strong startle reflex.

MrsZC - you are having a hard time of it. We can moan together next week as dh is away - ahhh 4 children on my own (dh supportively said "well you wanted 4!". Poppy doesn't like to be put down either - so I get very little down, although she will go in her bouncy chair for about 20 minutes (enough time for me to sit on my rowing machine)

With dd1 -3 I all co-slept with them as that was the only way I could get any sleep and then about 4-5 months suddenly they were happy to sleep on their own - so hang in there it does get easier...and then suddenly they are not babies any more :(. dd4 however - miracle upon miracle sleeps in her hammock (please don't hate me) - yesterday she did 10 - 5.15.

Have we all had thrush? Very strange.

girlsyearapart · 17/09/2010 08:22

yes ladies it does get easier- though new problems/worries arise the sleep at least is better and if you get a decent sleep then you can face anything.

bellygazing my cousins little girl had a hip harness on and breastfed for 6 months so it can be done, it was hard but she came through the other side.
Her top tip was to put her dd in socks designed for older children with dresses or loose tops so you don't have to wriggle them around too much.

She is now coming up for 3, the same age as my dd1 and was walking before my dd just before her first birthday. She walks and moves just fine so there is light at the end of the tunnel. good luck Smile

sparkle101 · 17/09/2010 08:29

chickieno everyone I have spoken to has said swaddling is the way forward. Even when we went to hopsital for a night's observation they showed us how to swaddle and actively encouraged us to do it. Now Izzy will not go down in the moses basket without it. She was admitted as she had really bad colic/reflux which she was making worse by throwing up her arms and legs.

They also rolled some towels up into sausage shapes and made like an oval in the moses basket and then put a top sheet on top so that Izzy felt more secure and confined.

I remember how you feel well, all I can say is it does get better (although I never thought it would at the time!) and it will get better soon. Try and get some sleep when you can - this will make things look a little bit brighter!

ElusiveMoose · 17/09/2010 08:49

I've never heard that swaddling increases the risk of cot death Confused. Have you tried a sleeping bag? They can feel more secure than sheets and blankets, plus you can cuddle them to sleep in the bag, so that when you put them down they don't feel too chilly. And I like them because I've always been rubbish at making sheets and blankets secure, so I was always worried my babies would wriggle down under them. S has been in a bag since a week old, and he sleeps very well in it.

marzipananimal · 17/09/2010 09:03

Hi bellygazing, I don't have any experience of hip problems but have you seen this thread? Hope it's helpful.

I want more sleep but ds is being very fidgety, hmph. Hurray for the weekend nearly here!