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Dec 08 Ladies - LIghtning Strikes... and the usual gossip!

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Beans33 · 09/08/2010 10:32

Hope this works for everyone - I'm assuming Summer won't give birth in the next few hours!! x

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KiwiPanda · 02/09/2010 09:12

Hello all, JJ hope all is well and you are coping solo! I have every sympathy, but I hope like me it will actually be much better an easier than you fear! Also - and I think I knew this - but we share a wedding anniversary! Mine is today too. And started with DH and I having a huge row. Oops. We hardly ever argue so that's great timing..
I am so so tired - haven't also properly in days - so thats probably why. Supposed to be going out for a celebratory meal tonight but I just want to crawl into bed already.

WG no one but us has ever put DD to bed so cant offer much help! To try and find someone though I think it's really important to have some couple time (says the one who ain't speaking to her dh..)

I haven't ousted since the mert up so also just wanted to say how lovely it was riser you all

KiwiPanda · 02/09/2010 09:14

Wow that's what happens when you post on an iPhone. It's like another language. Hmm. That would be POSTED, MEET and TO SEE you all

Rubena · 02/09/2010 10:10

hello wrote a massive post last night then lost it and now cant remember what i wrote.

JJ glad you are feeling better about the bleeds. Im sure its fine too. Yeah the feeding has been complicated but things have improved ten fold after much trial and error and she gained a pound in the last week plus slept 10-430 last night! Shock

Beans - Good lord get that dh of yours to stay in for a break for you soon!
dh never goes out, and I encouraged him the other night as he doesn't and he happened to be working in London, and he was texting me before he arrived to meet mates and said he'd "text me in a bit when he got there" to let me know if he'd like a lift from the station or if it would be a bit late so not to worry - well, phone got wet recently and it randomely works, but he didn't think to borrow mates phone, then, to add insult to injury, I didn't hear from him until 1am when he phoned to say he'd fallen asleep ojn the train and woke up in bloody basingstoke!!! An 80 quid taxi home, and been kissing my arse ever since luckily for him! Quite funny but I wasn't laughing at the time! Must post this then change a massive poo nappy so back in a bit.....

Nolda · 02/09/2010 10:17

Beans What kind of sailing are you into? DH has a dinghy (wayfarer) and a small lifting keel boat (which he is trying to sell). DH would like us to sail the dinghy together, leaving the DCs with his mum. We wouldn't like to risk taking the kids with us but I know that a lot of people do. I hope you have a lovely evening out with your dad. I had to google Chez Bruce, sorry I'm such a provincial! Seems your DH is living it up at the moment. When is it your turn??!!

Veggie I know what you mean about the counselling waiting time. How shocking about your poor friend. I rang up because my sister had frightened me by telling me about her friend who was told there was a two year waiting list in the St Albans area. WG Thanks for your thoughts and I understand what you mean but I'm wary of losing it not just in front of the counsellor but in front of DH. We don't usually row and shout at each other, we tend to bottle it up and let it fester, which I know isn't good, but in the end I blow my top and go completely wild at him and he just laughs at me. So in this context I don't want him to be able to just shrug it all off as some kind of neurotic imaginings of mine and if only I could behave in a rational manner we would be fine. It's all a bit more complex than that but that's the gist, I guess.

On the sitting front, we have only ever used GPs (lucky I know) and mainly my MIL so can't help with the booking bit but on the list part my MIL asked for a list of instructions. Although I did feel a bit like a control freak writing it all down, including all the words I say to them at bedtime, she was really grateful for it and said it was just what she wanted.

Summer Glad to hear that your DH is beginning to see it your way on the feeding front. Good tip about pushing DH out of the boat - like it!

Deirdre Can well understand the tears, it will be me on Tuesday. I hope DD has a lovely day and can't wait to see the photos of her in her uniform.

JJ and Kiwi Happy Wedding Anniversary! Oops, that looks like you are married to each other but you know what I mean!

Rubena · 02/09/2010 10:25

Oh and haven't used a sitter here ever. But mil has put ds to bed...
Oh who was asking about kicking and biting and all that? We have loads of kicking but the biggest problem is screaming out wanting attention. I can't even talk to anyone else as he just stands in front of me and does a high pitched squeal / scream. It's all been since dd came along and little cousins who gave much attention to him left.
I have asked the HV who gave me a strategy of ignoring it unless it's physical and then remove yourself from it but don't acknowledge. So far seems to be working as he screams way less but she said it would take a week probably.
weirdest new thing is he has a big problem with singing!! he has strangely become interested in TV (never was) but if I sing or anyone sings he gets really really mad and kicks and screams ShockHmm started just if anyone sang to him (when parents arrived mum sang to him and he lashed out) and now it's the same even if someone is singing on the tv!!! Any idea's?

Rubena · 02/09/2010 10:28

oh and he's improving on the social front.... went to a picnic area and then a pub and he happily wandered around and actually listened to us when we said "turn around and come back" etc and didnt leave the area or do a runnerShock i'm actually thinking that giving him a little bit of freedom is working with that problem of him running off. Perhaps it's give and take iycwim?

Beans33 · 02/09/2010 11:18

Nolda - we went on a flotilla holiday 3 years ago, and bogged off on our own for 3 days on our 31ft boot. It was bloody marvellous. We fought like cat and dog, but loved it and proved to me that we can work quite well as a team. Obviously it was pre-babies. DH wants to go again, but think we have to wait a while. I slightly dread it though as we're both control freaks. I have been sailing all my life with my Dad, but he's actually better than me, which is annoying. We both did our Day Skipper courses a while back and it was ace. Hard though. My mind glazed over at all the charts and calculations. DH is an accountant, so loved it!

My parents have a laser in North Wales and a little Mirror for their grandchildren, plus Dad shares a lovely big boat with a friend of his, which he races. Adn takes the grandchildren out mackerel fishing and things. They love it. Can't wait til DDs are big enough to do it too!

Sorry, blathering again.

Hey WG - thank you for kind comment re wedding pic - lovely you!

Rubes - my mum and dad's cat has the same issue with singing as your DS!!!

How is the feeding going? Sure you've updated, but I've missed so much.

People with second DCs - do you ever feel guily about neglecting them? DD2 is so good and patient. When I pay her attention, she smiles so hard that her face turns almost inside out. It's gorgeous, but tears at my heart as I clearly don't spend enough time with her. She spends a lot of time on her play gym, poor little bird.

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LadyThompson · 02/09/2010 11:28

Hello lovely ladies. I got back from the Big Smoke quite late last night, having knackered myself as usual Grin Am not going over to the house until just after lunch. I am going to attempt a largeish catch up, sorry if I miss anyone.

Have agreed with consultant that we will stick to 29th Sept for section. DD2 is so high up (and looks and feels it an' all) and I was told not to fret about her arriving early. At least 7 and a half lb is the consultant's guess as well - we shall see! I'm sceptical, I can only imagine having another midge like DD. Also, my sore bump (ripping feeling behind the skin, inside), is...ripping inside Shock It can happen in some second pregnancies apparently, and it has got to be monitored (wasn't told how or why and forgot to ask, and didn't note down the name of this problem, and it does have one) - have got cohydramol but have got to go back in a week and a half in case I need codeine, which I didn't think was allowed in pregnancy. Anyway, all very odd as although I am a podgster, bump itself isn't massive, am smaller than last time etc, no stretchmarks on outside of skin (gulp - yet).

Happy Anniversary to JJ and KP!

Veggie, so glad you had a lovely trip, you and the boys looked well and as if Dutch life is suiting you.

Jam, I think the jumpsuit is ace and I think Jam Jam Superglam is a good moniker Grin

Effie, since you asked what I was doing in town, one of the things I did was go to an exhibition at the Tate Modern which was called 'Exposed: Voyeurism, Surveillance and the Camera' which I really enjoyed, though it was a bit dark in parts.

Trace - interested in the mooncup. I keep thinking about getting one and then chickening out, so it's good to hear you find it ok.

Katie, I am vv pleased for you about the scan. How are you feeling? When the house is finished (my mantra, 90% of my sentences begin that way) perhaps you can come over? Or we can have lunch in Worcester.

JJ - am so glad the bleeding appears to be ok. How worrying for you, though. If you are no going to Venice, does that mean you are no longer doing your tour of Britain? Oh, and my fave restaurant in Ox is...The Old Parsonage, which is owned, I believe, by Gee's. I do find Oxford a bit crap for restaurants (agree Gee's is v nice, don't know about Fishers so will look it up) - but I am a spoilt old bag.

Beans - speaking of posho places to eat - Chez Bruce, how marvellous! I thought it was so nice that you talked about a feeling of well being washing over you the other day at lunch. As to the nursery thing, can you not convince yourself that the cheaper ones won't be as good?

Syb - How was work, lovey? MoM was going to Canada for weeks.

DB - your reaction to DD starting school sounds textbook normal to me! Hope she enjoys it.

Rubes - I did smile at your DH's misadventure in Basingstoke. I think what you say about giving your DS a bit of freedom/autonomy is good psychology. They have so little at this age, it's small wonder they get frustrated. Since the food thing, I have been trying to do the same with DD in tiny ways (not just with food) but there aren't too many opportunities. Oh, and sympathies on the hitting etc. Pinching is back here, and kicking never really went away. But she is listening to me a bit more now if I say no. I think it might just be age. The singing thing with your DS is a funny one, though. Do you think he might think people are crying or upset when they sing?

Nolda, I am impressed with all you sailors. I am a very bad sailor and don't really like boats Blush DP once participated in the Tall Ships Race so as usual we are chalk and cheese. It is actually a longstanding joke about how little, on the face of it, we have in common. Hey, I am sorry your DH laughs when you get really cross. That is VERY annoying. It sounds like counselling might be good if you could face it, even if you can't get DH to go along. I say that only because sometimes I think such things can make you consider things in a different way, or even give you a few tools with which to cope with problems.

WG - DD has been left for short periods with friends, but apart from GPs (who are willing but far away) we have one babysitter who first looked after DD when she was a month old. We don't use her often - perhaps once every couple of months, once a month at most, but DD loves her. We have given notes in the past (more about feeding than sleep routine) but actually, unless they want guidance, I think better to let them find their own way of dealing with your DD, because your DD might not necessarily expect her hard and fast routine with you to be replicated, as it won't be you doing it, if you see what I mean. We hardly ever go out on dates (I mean ALONE) and we do need to do it more. I would like once a month minimum.

SL - I am interested in the food malarkey so do keep telling me how it's going. Re: your MIL - there's probably no point in telling her to keep to your arrangements but quite frankly, the pressurising is more toxic coming from the parents than anyone, so I would say leave her to get on with it, unless it becomes apparent that your DS is really confused by it. Portion size is an interesting one. We weren't given guidelines on that, except to say that smaller, attractively presented mounds of food are more enticing. However, I reckon logic would dictate that you don't give massive amounts of the 'known' foods. With DD, I do notice that the new foods, if not tried, have at least been touched or messed with. If she eats two yoghurts then asks for more, try to say calmly, "But you have had two yoghurts, darling. You can have yoghurt again tomorrow."

Similar to Spot re: snacks. I used to fret and if DD didn't eat a meal I would keep offering snacks the whole day. Now I don't: it's the thing I find hardest, but if I don't, it just spoils the next meal.

I was given a lengthy report for O and various advice sheets. I will consult them and see if there's anything relevant I missed. We are going to see the NHS dietician in October - will be interesting to compare their approach with the private one.

Gosh, haven't I blathered on! Grin

LadyThompson · 02/09/2010 11:38

Oh, and I did mean to say to Rubes - is DD on the expressed BM now? How is it going? It sounds super that she has put on that weight, that seems like good going.

I know I keep going on about it but this insomnia...up at 4 last night, up between 2.20 and 5 the night before...it makes me feel so horrible. I know that is nothing compared to some of the sleepless periods with nightfeeds some have suffered on here, so I do feel a bit guilty, whinging. My eyes feel sore, and my skin is looking tired.

Anyway - time to get myself and DD out of pyjamas! What a slow and lazy start to the day.

Invis, if you are lurking, I hope the new job is going well.

Oh yeah - has anyone read that new book that everyone's on about, 'The Slap'? It's by an Australian writer, and is about someone who slaps someone else's spoilt kid at a bbq. Anyway...it's supposed to be good, a bit like Jonathan Franzen.

LadyThompson · 02/09/2010 11:46

One final thing - someone mentioned houmous and pitta and thinking it was a bad/lazy thing for kids - not at all! Has protein, fibre, fat and carbs and iron, and more B vits if you serve wholemeal pitta instead. Serve with fruit for Vit C and that's actually quite a well balanced meal.

Right - three posts and I am off!

Beans33 · 02/09/2010 11:51

Just went to see another nursery. It's £15 cheaper per day. And I can tell you exactly why... GRIM!!!!

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Beans33 · 02/09/2010 11:56

Wow, Lady - your post is amazing - you put me to shame! WEll done you! So good at doing catch ups and personals!

It was me fretting about the houmous and pitta. So thank you.

I am just playing a game with DD1 - she is shaking one of her maracas and I dance when she does. When she stops, I have to freeze. Great game. Although it feels like she should be saying "Dance Gringo Dance" and shooting a gun at my feet! How odd that this is my sole dancing time, when it used to be Infernos or Wessex House. Anyone know them??!

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Veggiemummy · 02/09/2010 12:11

Hommous was my saviour when DS1 was at his worst with eating, it's not lazy at all it's so healthy and pitta bread is great not just for hommous but you can put all sorts of stuff inside them too. Lady just so you know, with the vit C & iron uptake thing, you don't have to have fruit or fruit juice or whatever at the sametime as the food with iron in it just as long as you are having Vit C at sometime during the day, it will still increase the iron uptake by loads.

Nolda my DH used to (& that's a big USED to) laugh when we argued, it drove me mad, so I would go even more mental than I already was! He felt that it might lighten the mood if he did. He soon realised it did not help.

Bloody itouch back in a minute.

LadyThompson · 02/09/2010 12:14

Naw, Beans - I just talk too much Grin

I don't know those places though Infernos sounds familiar...I think there may be one in every town! If Show Me Show Me is on I always run over to DD and pick her up and dance and throw her around and we join in with Groovy Moves. She knows to freeze now, which I find very funny.

When I did the long post above, I suddenly realised she was suspiciously quiet. She was behind the chair, had entirely emptied my handbag and was quietly sucking on a cherry Tune she'd helped herself to.

Not surprised about that nursery, though. There's one here which I thought I'd use as it's right near the station...and the prices are SO reasonable. But I took one look at the damning Ofsted report...and changed my mind.

LadyThompson · 02/09/2010 12:16

Oooh, I didn't realise that about the iron/Vit C uptake thing, Veggie. I mean Vaggie (do I?) That's good to know, thanks.

Veggiemummy · 02/09/2010 12:24

Kiwi your ousting & rising made me giggle. You would be horrified by what I wore to the christening. I had no time to buy something to wear with my lovely flowy floral top so had to borrow some really wide long shorts type things that may as well have been collots(sp), I looked huge!!!! So annoying I know I'm not svelte but I looked massive and like an old very unyummy mummy. It was annoying because the top was really nice. Worst of all sooooooooo many people took photos. Also DH found out on the day that they wanted him to be a godfather but as his dad is buddhist or something they wouldn't let him. He was a bit miffed.

I was putting the recycling out this morning and forgot to put the door lock thingy on, the door slammed behind me & locked me out & DS2 in. Luckily my neighbour who is the landladies sister was home, so she came over within 15 mins. But by the time I got in DS2 was really upset and grabbed my hand & dragged me in while I was trying to say thankyou. He was not amused. Bless him initially he just went back to eating his breakfast but then realised I wasn't coming back he got upset. He even managed to find the keys and was trying to pass them to me through the glass.

Rubs DS2 is getting better and not running off & turns when I call. But today we were at the beach and the big beach racking tractor was right near where we were all sitting with our babes & DS2 kept running towards it while it was driving around and waving his arms and roaring at it. It was like he was trying to challenge it but I was so scared he was going to end up under it & he just kept ignoring my calls. Cheeky begger.

DeidreBarlow · 02/09/2010 15:44

helllloooo...

Well DD back from school, and she loved itGrin She said her teacher was really nice with orange hairHmm(although admitedly it does have reddish tones!). But for some reason she thought she would have done P.E and was a little upset over the fact they didn't. I am now over my wobbles and am now just so proud of her! I have out a few pics on FB for those of you on there.

Rubes forgot to say great news that DD is putting on weight, hows she handling the EBM?

veggie Yikes at locking DS2 inside, but how clever trying to pass you the keys!

DS appears to be hitting the terrible 2's early - he has some really bad tantrums when he can't get his own way. But I am convinced a lot of this is to do with the efact he can't tell me how he feels.

EffiePerine · 02/09/2010 16:22

Veggie: I got a little ready at the thought of your DS2 trying to get your keys to you. Thank goodness for nice neighbours.

Deirdre: hooray for DD! The iPhone wants to correct your name to 'fridge'. Odd machine.

EffiePerine · 02/09/2010 16:25

Waaaaaah! TEARY. Bloody phone. We need a glossary of 'stoopid things my phone does to MN'. I hate not being able to edit my own posts.

EffiePerine · 02/09/2010 17:08

In fact we need a handy shortcut for 'my phone typed that not me'. I propose FT for Feckin Technology.

Veggiemummy · 02/09/2010 17:28

Effie I used to have a friend in the UK whose name is Andy, my phone would always change it to Anal on the pre-emptive text. So I would send texts like I'm going to the bar with Anal or is Anal coming?

I'm going to FB to have a look at your DD now DB

Beans33 · 02/09/2010 17:39

Deidre - sweetest piccies!

I just went totally squeamish - a girl I used to be quite good friends with but am not any more (long story, but basically she asked me to give her a lesson on how to do her wedding make up, but didn't ask me to her wedding - I was v gracious about it and recommended she spoke to Space NK as I was out of practice and she never replied!) - anyway, she had a baby a couple of days ago and has posted some v sweet pics. But amongst them are a couple of the baby clearly quite freshly out of her parts, with the vernix and stuff all over him. V sweet looking little boy, but I just suddenly felt really sick looking at the vernix! I don't think I would with most people, but hers made me feel grim. I am beastly!

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EffiePerine · 02/09/2010 17:51

Beans I don't think going 'ugh' at goopy stuff is beastly. I'm not sure about those kind of pics either.

Beans33 · 02/09/2010 20:11

Phew! Thanks Effie. I thought I was being mean. I even found Pru's vernix gross. Just that it had just come out of my fannoir... Bleugh!

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Veggiemummy · 02/09/2010 20:13

Lady meant to day earlier, ouchy on the tear thingy, I had heard something about that but thought it was for 3+ post cs pregnancies, poor you. I guess they haven't thought it necessary to deliver earlier so must be ok, right? I really did think you were quite little when I saw you last fri, I'm not sure if I had a skewed memory of my bump when I was 8 months but I'm sure it was much bigger. Also back several pages I forgot to say I love 'the damned united' makes Derby look quite dismal. Brilliant acting though.

Beans apart from the ickyness of the photos what a bitch!

DB I would like to steal your DD, would that be ok, no, could I then offer her my sons hand in marriage then.