Lefties 7: Simples

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Hope this is ok, I was getting withdrawal symptoms!

Wee Dougie A was saying earlier on that he couldn't see any way Lab would go in with the SNP (but then his sister came off worse in a confrontation with the SNP didn't she? Bad blood?)

Also wonk, I agree with you. Labour needs time to regroup and though I think a LibLab pact is perfectly constitutionally ok, I don't think it would work well. It's too risky. Look at how many Labourites are coming out against any electoral reform: in parliament, it would be a disaster and the Tories would be so smug as they watched it fall apart. On the other hand, Cameron is a poor situation: he did not win the election, he's going to be forced to take on cabinet ministers from the Lib Dems and the right wing of his own Party whom he won't like and he's going to have his nom-dom and media backers breathing down his neck and blaming him and Gideon for getting both the election campaign ad these negotiations so wrong.

In the background, Labour prepares for a return while the public gets a dose of Thatcherite politics.

The real losers are the LDs. NC has been hoeless, especially in this scret deal doing. It makes him look shifty and unserious. Silly man

MmeL going to do the ironing really works doesn't it?

Have no access to a tv or radio. bbc web too slow.

Tell me. Will I be hiding under the duvet tonight and avoiding meeja outlets all day tomorrow?

Love it when you hear protesters barracking on College Green. I'm currently reading Hilary Mantel's novel about the French revolution and I keep imagining them sweeping all the Tories off to the guillotine in handcarts. That'd sort it.

Just thinking ahead. Anyone agree or disagree that what may come out of all this that the Lib Dems split and half go to Labour and half go to Conservative.

It would surely make a lot of political sense in an AV system?

Still not ironing.

Have turned it on though.

The Conservative press office staff are putting ties on.

I dunno, I think Clegg was in a pretty hopeless position. When the mere fact of speaking to both sides has people calling you a 'whore' you're on a hiding to nothing really. Had he won 20 more seats his position would have been so much stronger - I think he hasn't done badly with what he had.

CAn we all pug our MN irons in once Parliaments opens again for the Queen's Speech? Its the "MadamL" technique to oust an unwelcolme interloper.

Don't start on my name again BeenBeta!!

Noooo emphatically not tory.

at 'DC off to the palace'. Off with his head, if I had my way.

I do think it is best if labour go into opposition, it would not have been sustainable. Still bastard, fuck, arse though. And aimed at Nick Clegg for causing all this fuss and nonsense in the first place.

Is that a removal van I can see at the back of Downing St on Sky?

Watching Lempik (or whatever his name is) on BBC news.

GetOrf, can't you stand on a gatepost a la Camille Desmoulins and incite the crowd to put DC's head on a pike? Then no one would accuse you of being a Tory.

True, Lenin. They have really done well.

Cameron leaving Conservative HQ

On his way to Downing Street?

I'm not so sure Policywonk. Labour might do okay longer term, but the rest of us mere mortals will be totally screwed over the next couple of years, unless Ham'n'Egg have agreed on the lib dem economic policy.

It seems totally pointless of Blunkett, Reid et all to be refusing to negoiate on electoral reform when the tories have already conceded to a referendum. It's going to happen whether they want it or not.

I don't think these bloody Blairites have the interests of either the Labour party or the country in mind. The in-fighting has already started.

GB has been magnificent in all of this, shame these tossers don't have the same principles. I think they're hoping it'll be a disaster for the country under the libs/tories and they'll stand by rubbing their hands in glee, whilst the rest of us pay the price.

No Wonk, I thought it was quite right that he spoke to both, but the Labour talks should not have been done secretly. It was a terrible situation for him, so I don't want to be too hard on him.

(btw - DP is back ...)

this link explains the various different systems pretty well I think.