Pondering, and while slightly more optimistic than we once were, still really quite unhappy Lefty thread

[Hassled]

Where had we got to? We'd agreed that we all love Cameron, right?

Where is ham chops anyway?

To be honest I would be far more worried (from a labour supporter perspective) if William Hague was leading the tories. He commands a lot more respect than Dave tbh. More statesmanlike. And less ermine trimmed.

Shit - Hague just said the Tories would offer a PR referendum too!!!

I bet they want to choose their moment and campaign against it.....

"Also, GB's legacy might look much better than his premiership. He is a good man, a real public servant and I am ashamed at the way our press treated this good, sometimes sad, man."

GetOrfMoiLand - I posted than on to MN but what the hell is YoungVistors. The internet is spooky

I actually think history will show that Gordon (and Tony actually, once you wipe the smarm and slime away) did some pretty amazing things.

yes, DH and I are agreed on Hague being the acceptable face and Osborne being the flipside

Quattrocento what a copincidence - over the last three days I've reported one post and the title of one thread - been on here 5 years and never reported anything. I think the election is making me sensitive...

copincidence? Is that where two police officers turn up wearing the same uniform? Sorry - coincidence.

Agree Bucharest (noooo, really? ) his webchat on here last week was excellent.

And that Citizens UK speech.

Oh. Was it a ploy to force hammys hand?

Bucharest- yes the NuLabour project (ex Iraq) can be summed by saying that it left Britain a country more at ease with itself; a more resilient country...look at how we have endured a massive recession with turning on record wave of foreigners...yes immigration needs to be sorted out but in time Britain's economy will benefit more than Europe from it's relative flexibility....hell I am feeling so patriotic today

Sorry got over excited, Tories offering AV referendum NOT PR. Phew, that's not so bad then and it appears to be their final offer.

with without turning on the record wave of foreigners...

TDiddy - TheYoungVisitor is on this thread, she copied and pasted that quote, presumably you had posted it orinally miles back and I missed your post!

Okay- I thought that the YoungVisitor was some sort of new Twitter like thing..getting old

I think a copincidence describes it really well tbh - it's a perfect description for a coincidence when two posters simultaneously develop a policing mentality

Must must do bedtime, have child hanging on my leg.
If you change threads while I'm gone make sure you're easy to find. Don't want to see any of those other threads.

Bucharest - like Gordon we will offer you (thread) stability

Sorry, just want to add to the general GB adoration here. Yes, a man of great integrity who's been given an absolutely shit time by the press but I think history will have a much kinder verdict.
As a side issue, does anyone remember a Sue Limb column in the Guardian years ago where she had a secret crush on GB as a kind of Heathcliff character, possibly even before Labour were in power?

I shall be opening the good malt later and raising a glass to toast Gordon. I feel very proud and humbled to have been governed by him.

I hope Gordon is feeling a little better. I thought he looked rather releived - perhaps that his decision had been made if nothing else.