Why not liberate Scotland and then run with a conservative majority?

[Earthstar]

Since Scotland is so mad for independence and is not homogenous with England why not set them free and then the Conservatives will have their majority?

'Who is eligible for free school lunches?
You can claim free school lunches for your children if you are receiving:

Income Support (IS)
Income-based Job Seeker's Allowance (JSA)
Child Tax Credit (CTC), but not Working Tax Credit, and your income is less than £16,190 (with effect from April 6, 2010).
Both maximum child tax credit and maximum working tax credit and your income is under £6420 (with effect from April 6, 2010).
If you are between 16 and 18 years old and receive any of these benefits in your own right, you can claim free school lunches for yourself.

You may also be eligible if you are an asylum seeker receiving support under Part VI of the Immigration and Asylum Act 1999'

This is the same policy as in the rest of the UK.

Any other myths you care to throw out?

We're all ginger and wear tartain and play bagpipes, too.

weegiemum's speak Scots Gaelic.

I pay them to indoctrinate my children in the art, too. So we can talk about the English behind their backs.

yes up here in scotland everything in free. we even get free heating but we prefer to burn english people instead. [dons jimmy hat and skips off to buy some edinburgh rock]

Aplogies to you scots who don't want independence, agree this was a generalism, but what do you actually gain by being part of a union with England when the English want different things from the Scots as evidenced by very different voting patterns?

Off to serve up dinner.

Irish stew

English money? did Boris Johnston tell you that? What a load of shite.

The reason we have stuff that England doesn't is because 1)We pay for it and 2) We voted for it.

Why aren't you asking how you can get these things? Why don't you write to your MPs, or campaign for an equal English parliament? Your energy would be much better spent trying to improve upon the situation in England than getting angry at Scotland or Wales or Northern Ireland. We're just making the best of a bad situation.

Also, if last night's result is anything to go by, I think Scots who previously enjoyed being part of the Union will be happy to be independent. The fact that David Cameron will soon govern us despite the Tories having the smallest percentage of votes shows the black hold of democracy that is being Scottish.

Did you boil up a few English people to put in it, weegiemum? Were they free?

You know those Irish!

This is what my link to your govt site says about free lunches:

Extensions to free school lunch entitlement
The Scottish Government has two jointly agreed commitments to extend entitlement to free school lunches in its concordat with local government.

Following the positive evaluation of the free school lunches trial carried out in 2007/08, legislation was passed in November 2008 to enable local authorities to provide free school lunches to all P1-3 pupils from August 2010. This will benefit approximately 118,000 pupils across Scotland.

The other commitment is to extend entitlement to free school lunches to pupils whose parents or carers are in receipt of both maximum working tax credit and maximum child tax credit from August 2009. Legislation to extend entitlement to these pupils has now been passed by the Scottish Parliament. This will benefit approximately 44,000 pupils across Scotland.

Fruit and breakfast initiatives
In addition to the work being carried out to improve school lunches, some local authorities and schools provide free fruit or breakfast clubs for pupils. To find out if either of these initiatives are available in your area, you should contact your local authority.

Maybe it's your patronising attitude rather than your nationality they hate Earthstar.

Did you vote for the BNP as well?

And what's the basis for your opinion that Scotland is not homogenous with England?

I'm Scottish and find threads like these, and the bigoted opinions thrown around on them highly offensive.

to enable them.

to enable them.

if they can afford it.

and up here, they can't.

or maybe i'm just talking mince and stump up for the lunches every day out of a feeling of civic duty.

Jenny that is exactly what I mean - Scotland and England are not sufficiently homogenous enough to be governed jointly to the benefit of either country in my view

so do we chuck everyone out who voted labour, or is it just the scots?

'Scotland and England are not sufficiently homogenous enough to be governed jointly to the benefit of either country in my view '

I'm sure all the English living here totally agree.

My basis for saying they are not homogenous is how the voting came out, yourcallisimportant, simples.

can the scots who voted Tory stay joined to England then? Or would they have to be deported to England?

what about the English people who voted Labour? Are they too non-homogenous and will they be forced to live in Scotland?

there is one Tory seat.

shall we put everyone who voted for that candidate out?

Of course the Scots don't hate the English, we just object to the next door neighbours in the bigger house trying to tell us how to spend our own money, or to have trident in our back garden, not theirs, whatever. Cordial relations will become the status quo when we each respect the others right to make their own decisions.

I have to rise to the bait re the 'bags of English Money' and point out that all taxes - income, VAT, customs duties - raised in Scotland go to the UK Treasury who then decide how much of it they will give us back. Scotland is therefore a nett contributor to the UK economy. There is no such thing as 'English Money'. Currently it is all controlled by the UK Treasury.

Well I'm just trying to solve the hung parliament problem so most folk are happy, obviously not making many of you lot very happy though

Aah, OK, so that doesn't apply to the big English cities then? Not so simples.

Gawd I hate threads like these - wah wah wah Scotland gets too much money, we get nuffink.

Grow up Earthstar and write to your MP instead of blaming Scotland for all England's woes.

And just so you know, as a Scottish person living in England, I have been on the receiving end of far more abuse about my nationality than my English dp did when we lived in Scotland - so don't go polishing your oh so superior halo yet.

No free school dinners or prescriptions where I live either.

As for the English accent not making you popular in Scotland - I take it you've never been to Edinburgh?

Anyhoo that kind of crap is a two way street - I have actually been spat upon by English people for having a Scottish accent and my Irish friend got told to "fuck of you Irish bombing bastard" on her first visit to London.

Yes, when i went to Uni in England I was called "Jock" etc constantly and was even affectionately referred to by my "friends" as "Scottish tart" (no I was not promiscuous either)!

Every time DH goes down to England with work he is called "Jock" and there are countless references to "you lot" as well.

I don't blame Scotland for England's woes at all and I think good on them for having so much stuff that's free that the english pay for.

I just don't see that governing both contries together makes sense when their interests are disparate.

"good on them for having so much stuff that's free that the english pay for"

Yes, we don't pay taxes in Scotland, every day is a big party.