So...why do we hate the Conservatives so much?

[Chulita]

And why do we think Labour has anything left to offer after 13 years?

Just wondering...

Have never and will never vote tories, but now I'm not going to vote labour either, at least for a very, very long time, they have proved themselves less than useless in this whole brexshit shitshow. They deserve to be punished for their ineptitude. Will be voting Lib Dems or preferably Greens in future - if we are ever to be given a general election.

I don't hate the Conservatives.

I don't think that Labour has anything left to offer.

God I dislike Socialists.

Torys - lets work towards equality by improving education and creating jobs

Labour - lets enforce equality by taking money from those who work for it and evening it out.

Reasons why i hate the Tories;
Cuts to public funding
Beginning to privatise everything...schools, nhs
Defence od super rich/ royals/ ruling class
Rupert Murdoch
Fox hunting
Poll tax
Brexit
Leadson, Patel wt al
Thatcher
No such thing as society
Windrush

And to top it off a leader who has affairs while the general populance believe that Toeies stand for family values.

Oh i could go on!

How do Tories promote equality?

They dont believe in the minimum wage or creating jobs in public sector...
Cuts make people loose jobs
Zero hour contracts
Tax cuts for rich etc.

So those who work in finance rake it in whereas people doing properly hard jobs like nurses and teachers get poorer...how is this equality...baffled.

Whole lot of Labour people voted for brexit
If the Labour party cared so much about the Windrush arrivals why didn't they register them when they arrived?
Thatcher - the woman who did something Labour leaders never could - unite socialists.
Minimum wage set by the Tories to be higher than the one proposed in the Labour manifesto.
Public sector jobs need private sector jobs to pay for them.
People working in finance make money for the country, if you are that worried why not complain about sports or entertainment.
Some people like zero hour contracts why should you get to dictate how people work.
Cutting useless jobs is good.

How can people who vote Torie sleep at night?

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Labour has brilliant polices and a fantastic green Policy and will properly fund the NHS I joined Labour membership because of Jeremy Corbyn and thousands of others did too. We are the biggest party in the whole of Urope.

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How can anyone who thinks Labour has brilliant policies avoid dribbling when they read.

Labour policies will fund the NHS until the money goes away. His masters at the TUC will require large pay rises all in the new nationalised industries. Plus the armed forces, police and fire services.

2 or 3 years all the money will be gone. Wealthy people will flee the country. Businesses with any mobility will go before Corbyn grabs their assets.

Vote Corbyn to destroy the NHS.

Have you read their manifest and all polices fully costed. Labour would tax just under Europe tax rate so where will businessesss go answer that? Don't believe what the right wing press tell you. As with the Attlee government who brought us the wonderful NHS and welfare state even after the mass expenses to country caused by the war. We need socialist polices everywhere you look neoliberalism clearly isn't working.

You know the NHS was a Tory idea just stolen by Labour.

All that privatisation has to be paid for somehow. The manifesto doesn't mention how much money will be required to increase pay for his voters in the unions, or to cancel student debt.

Frankly policies costed by Dianne Abbott are not worth the paper they are scribbled on.

The Labour Party brought us the NHS the Tory party voted it down 22 times.

If you read Labour policy manifesto you will see how Labour plan to pay for it all.

It's not privatisation that is what Tories are doing along with our NHS selling it off.

Labour would nationalise public services so not in the hands of privateers only interested in making money for their shareholders not to provide proper services for the public.

All Momentum and trade union members have been democratically elected to all the positions they hold and within the current rules of the Labour movement.

It's not good to attack people Diane Abbot is very hard working MP for her constituents and has suffered massive abuse and still carries on working for the benefit of others.

I've been voting since the 70s and been continually told the Tories will sell of the NHS - well they haven't. You need the SNP for that.

I meant nationalisation - no profit = no investment.

I remember when BT was nationalised - you could get a telephone when they wanted - never quicker than 6th months.

British Rail - you occasionally had trains that ran on time but only if the staff felt like it.

British Coal would still be going, killing miners and piling up huge stocks of fuel no one wanted and would be too polluting to use.

Yes the Tories are selling off NHS Branson has at least a billion worth and sued the NHS when didn't get what he wanted.

Look for Dr Bob Gill on YouTube he will explain what this government are doing or Dr Paul Hobday he wrote a book The deceit Syndrome which puts it plainly what this government are doing.

Do you know the trains those packed not very up to date or modern compared to other countries. Well these are owned not by our government but by foreign governments can you believe that? That means they get the profits instead of our government should to improve the railways. Public ownership is always better than private as privately owned always have to consider their shareholders not the public they are supposed to serve.

Branson sued the NHS to get them to rerun the procurement in a fair manner.

The NHS has always outsourced things - they don't make their own beds or drugs, they buy in all sorts of hardware and services, as long as it is free for patients what does it matter. Labour would have you wait 10 years for an operation if it suited their dogma. Not for the MPs or Union bosses of course - private healthcare all round there.

Public ownership can never compete with private firms as they lack incentive. The vast amount of private firms dividends go to pension funds.

Yes first started outsourcing with Thatcher cleaning staff they had to start Small in their underhand way to slowly dismantle our NHS more infections was the result. The NHS or what is left should alway stay as was intended and worked perfectly publicly provided for the people by the people and FREE at the point of need.

Only Labour is committed to properly fund our NHS

And will nationalise water Renationalise energy grid, Renationalise railways

We urgently need genuine, bold investment to save our NHS - not recycled money which was already promised to our hospitals.
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Where is this magical investment money to come from? We spend 10% of our GDP on the NHS.

We spend 1.1% the lowest since the beginning more than 70 years ago in order to make it ready to privatise it sell off.

If you read the Labour manifesto and all the many wonderful polices voted for by the people for the people you would know how Labour would find the money.

It was only a few short months ago that we were protesting this year's rail fare rises.

Yet despite continued chaos, delays and disruption on our privatised rail network, fares are set to rise AGAIN next year.

This week, RMT published research detailing the dodgy behaviour and sky-high profits of the rolling stock companies - the organisations that lease out trains to be used on our railway. These companies sent £1.2 BILLION in dividends to shareholders between 2012 and 2018.

We know that public ownership of our railway is the only way to really deliver for passengers - it’s the only way to stop our fares leaking out into private profits, and create a railway which is actually accountable to the people who use and work on it.

Let’s tell the new transport secretary, Grant Shapps, loud and clear on Wednesday 14th August that we want a railway that works for people, not profit.

weownit.org.uk/blog/rail-fares-action-toolkit

By deliver for passengers presumably you mean have all the people who don't use them chip in money to lessen the ticket prices for those who do?

Don't know what you mean it's just Fair taxation system that would benefit the many and actually makes sense.

We know that public ownership of our railway is the only way to really deliver for passengers - it’s the only way to stop our fares leaking out into private profits, and create a railway which is actually accountable to the people who use and work on it.

Well at the moment the rest of Europe has rail fares subsidised by taxes. This means anyone who walks to work helps someone getting the train with their fare.

Last time the railways were in public ownership they delivered for the unions and pretty much ignored passengers.

It was only a few short months ago that we were protesting this year's rail fare rises.

Yet despite continued chaos, delays and disruption on our privatised rail network, fares are set to rise AGAIN next year.

This week, RMT published research detailing the dodgy behaviour and sky-high profits of the rolling stock companies - the organisations that lease out trains to be used on our railway. These companies sent £1.2 BILLION in dividends to shareholders between 2012 and 2018.

We know that public ownership of our railway is the only way to really deliver for passengers - it’s the only way to stop our fares leaking out into private profits, and create a railway which is actually accountable to the people who use and work on it.

Let’s tell the new transport secretary, Grant Shapps, loud and clear on Wednesday 14th August that we want a railway that works for people, not profit.

weownit.org.uk/blog/rail-fares-action-toolkit