Depressed Lefty red eye - The morning after the night before

[Nymphadora]

Hello

I'd rather have a flawed, messy, unphotogenic dour Scot in place than an untrustworthy, plastic Home Counties poodle.
Of course my self i.d. as a flawed, messy, unphotogenic, dour Scot has nothing to do with it!

This is interesting re local council elections (from the BBC website):

"Half of the results for the 164 council elections held in England on Thursday have now been declared.

So far, the Conservatives and Liberal Democrats have lost seats, while Labour is the only party to make gains. Power at most councils remains unchanged.

The polls, held at the same time as the general election, include those for 32 London boroughs, 36 metropolitan authorities and 20 unitary authorities.

A total of 15,785 candidates are fighting 4,222 seats.

In the last local elections in June, Labour suffered heavy losses across the country, losing key seats to the Conservatives.

But as the votes continued to be counted this time, Labour had gained Hartlepool, Liverpool, Coventry, Doncaster, Enfield, and St Helens.

The Tories had lost control of Lincoln, Brentwood, Solihull, Hyndburn, Mole Valley, Nuneaton & Bedworth, Bury, and North Tyneside.

The Liberal Democrats, meanwhile, had lost Rochdale, and Sheffield."

But you can't carve Gordon's face into tasty treats!

Thanks for the welcome and the gin

Have to go and rest my weary bones, can't take all of this disappointment and lack of sleep at my advanced age ....nice to know that you are out there though. Will introduce daughter to MN as soon as shit husband not around, might cheer her up.

DH and I have just rejoined the Labour Party after years in confused Trot green resistant wilderness.

so no BNP councillors at all then?. that is good news

(and will daftpunk now stop bleating on about them? lovely )

I think the best we can hope for is lib not going with either party. You are right not enough of a majority for lib lab pact. Would be too destructive me thinks.

BNP in Stoke lost 2 council seats AFAIK. Which is good. And Labour gained from all the unaligned independents. A good result.

'Would the public actually go for PR?' - ah well, that's another question isn't it. One thing's for sure, the entire Murdoch media will fight it.

If we had PR, how would it have changed things today in terms of the result? I'm not really clear about how it works vs how the current system works

i guess in a 3-party system PR means perpetual coalitions doesn't it?

Agree with ninja too

As appealing as a lib/lab agreement is, it does kind of chuck the whole process to one side if the people who got the most votes don't have any say IYSWIM it would be too divisive

I'm going for referendum + new election as my preferred outcome

Prolesworth - they are saying that a lib-con coalition is likely and that Boris Johnson should replace Hameron as leader.

To which I say: yes please please oh god please

Can you imagine [boggles]

I know! I had to delurk on their thread just to laugh!

Come and join my I joined the Labour Party today thread...

Hahaha

Lefties for Boris, I say

That's so hilarious I felt I had to stop lurking. Says a lot about the calibre of Tory voters that they think that would be good for their party.

Honestly. I kid you not. Go and have a look.

BIWI, PR should mean that the parties have seats in proportion to their share of the vote. So Tories' 36% = 234 seats (as opposed to 305); Labour 28% = 182 seats (as opposed to 260ish); LibDem 26% = 169 seats (as opposed to 56ish). (%s are from memory)

Would also mean 20 UKIP MPs, 12 BNP MPs. I've over-guessed the LD share as well, it was 23%, so 150 MPs.

Boris!? But he doesn't have any meat like qualities at all!

I don't think it is a wind up! I would be lying if I said there was broad cross-thread support though. It's more a maverick poster.

No-one's actively laughing though (well, except DavidHameron but then he would mock the likelihood of himself being replaced by Bozza)