Depressed Lefty red eye - The morning after the night before

[Nymphadora]

Hello

Maybe Nick could be the Ham's Whigmaker

Thank you

Interestingly, Labour are doing rather well in local government elections. They've taken Enfield off the Tories (!), Liverpool from the Lib Dems, and several NOCs including Coventry. The Tories have lost a few to NOC.

Have not read all this thread as been out all day but i have to say as a labour supporter i am really depressed at the way things are unfolding. I thought that a lot of labour and lib dem supporters had voted tactically to keep the tories out . So i cannot believe that Nick Clegg may do deals with the Conservatives it just seems so wrong to me.

Remember, this decision isn't Clegg's to make. He's got to get the agreement of his MPs, the national executive and party members.

Really pleased Labour regained Coventry. I lived there for a while and couldn't believe they would let in anyone other than Labour.

Have I missed any TV announcements since 3pm?

I think I've decided that Gordon should withdraw gracefully and not try and scrabble for scraps. He wasn't elected, he doesn't have most seats, he should concentrate on getting the Labour party BACK in whenver that is (hopefully not too long) stronger and fitter, and meanwhile being a formidable opposition. Which they will be. So long as they don't implode in a lot of recriminations and back-biting after this week, which Labour are wont to do sometimes.

I don't see how NC can get into bed with the Tories. Many of my friends voted Lib Dem, but they would never have voted Tories. It was Lab or Lib for them. They are all going to want their vote back.

still bloody fascinating,though, even for the walking dead like me. I still think labour did ok in the circumstances and GB looked by the far the most decent and statespersonlike today. I was proud.

Every single BNP candidate in either local or national elections has been defeated. That's worth a whoop.

It so proves how tolerant Britain is - something to be really proud off

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Yes the BNP's humiliating wipeout by a MILE (Griffin's speech priceless) is some consolation.

I hope all the great and the good who thought voting Lib Dem was a good idea last week (what are you thinking George Monbiot, Susie Orbach, Francis Wheen, Philip Pullman?) realise the error of their ways if the Lib Dems are going to go into coalition with the Tories.

What about Stoke on Trent? Have we really got rid of all those BNP councillors.

"Remember, this decision isn't Clegg's to make. He's got to get the agreement of his MPs, the national executive and party members."

True. He really is, deep down, a Conservative although The LibDems, of course, aren't. Odd combination isn't it?

Yes, BNP seem to have been placed back under their stone.

There may be some hope in the Libs meeting tomorrow, where NC may be pursuaded to go with GB as he is directly offering discussion on PR, which DC appears to be avoiding altogether.

stoke on trent still showing 5 BNp councillors though (down from 7)

Correction - what I said before about LibDem triple lock wasn't quite right: 'Liberal Democrats lawmakers will meet Saturday in London to discuss the implications of what looks set to be a hung parliament... The meeting is also expected to be the first part of the party's "triple lock" mechanism, under which any plans for a coalition would have to pass a series of votes. Such a proposal would either need a three-quarter majority of Liberal Democrat lawmakers and the party's federal executive; a three-quarter majority at a special party conference; or a ballot of all party members.'

Ed M on BBC he is so clever and sensible and calm

I really am depressed now. 10 million people and I am blardy surrounded by all of them. Not the braying variety either, the should have known better/a bit thick variety. My tolerance is at an all time low. Time to batten down the hatches and crack open the wine.

< wish I still smoked >

is not sensible and calm.

Hmm you're right, there do seem to still be 5 councillors in Stoke. I'm spreading misinformation far and wide here.