Depressed lefty red-eye thread

[policywonk]

hello

I think Cleggy is OK, his spech just made me cry, I am 5 months pregnant, shall I put it down to hormones? I also cried when I voted, I`m not right am I (voted labour )

I think it is up to the Tories to negotiate a queens speech that can command a majority.
But that depends on Gordon recognising defeat. He's not shown a good track record on that

Increasingly I am thinking that a Lib-Tory coalition is a GOOD thing: let 'em fuck it all up. November election. We all rejoin the labour party, as do a whole host of disaffected non-libertarian liberals.

MmeLindt if it doesn't work there will be another election pretty sharpish.

thinker
I cried at GB's speech last night (or early this morning)

as far as I understand it from the BBC, they can't form a minority government without getting the Queen's Speech voted through parliament.

And without a whip from Clegg on lib dem support, surely that's not going to happen, with or without the unionists?

All going to get a bit Yes Minister now, isn't it? Civil service must be getting all self-important, 'Move over chaps, we'll sort this one out.'

Sorry, why are the torie having first crack at forming, i thought labour got to do that?

has nick clegg refused a labour coalition??

and a toy one too??

A master-stroke from Clegg.
He's calling the Tories to interview, and if they fail to meet his high standards he can claim moral authority to reject them and enter a lab pact.

If the Tories give him electoral reform they're committing themselves to a bleak electoral future in the long term.

thinker I kept crying last night (4 months)

Labour won Poplar and Limehouse

Another Lab seat

signing in

sigh

Disenchanted, Clegg has decided to bypass the rules and he'll be able to do it because the rules are not constitutional as they would be in other countries.

Ah, Clever Cleggs.

I agree with NC's statement. But constitutionally Labour are there until they give up. That could prove pretty painful.

dis3 - I think technically yes, Gordon gets first go, but if it's clear that he's not going to get a deal then he may resign, at which point it's open to other parties to form a formal coalition or go it alone with a Queen's Speech that attempts to get enough cross-party support to get through.

I THINK. Really I have no idea what I'm blithering on about.

Dunno what happens if GB can't form a coalition but still doesn't resign. Presumably he presents a Queen's Speech, it gets voted down and he gets dragged out kicking and screaming?

I'm not as optimistic that the Lib Dems will help to block Tory cuts - they're happy enough to implement Tory type policies in local government.

I think Labour needs time to discover a new leader. It won't be the next one, or maybe the one after that, who is the leader we need. There has been too long with GB in control and stifling opposition.