Depressed lefty red-eye thread

[policywonk]

hello

[Beachcomber]

Aaah will be out at 2.30pm for Hameron's statement.

First time I've been disappointed to miss him.

[Heathcliffscathy]

onebat a summary:

no one has majority (you knew that)

cons have biggest gains/seats

clegg saying 'cons need to TRY to form govt in national interest' alongside 'electoral system broken reform is a must'

senior cons cross with cameron and saying no way to electoral reform.

tories will fail therefore to form effective govt.

big win last night was fight for electoral reform.

huzzah!

[Nymphadora]

new one

[Disenchanted3]

HYPOTHETICALLY...

If after all this they said, right vota again tomorrow, what do you think would happen?

Would people vote the same? Would more people vote?

[onebatonevote]

Hellooooo.
I have some catching up to do. This all just gets more and more Looking-Glass like though, doesn't it?

[motherinferior]

Prolesworth, I am about to go and meet a friend for a soothing South Indian lunch. I fear that image will not allow it to settle.

[auberginesrus]

PMSL at naughty boy Hameron and prospect of Tories imploding

[leavingonajetplane]

Although still confused about what exactly to hope for now. Its hard to work out how best this short-lived government should go, in order to ensure that longterm, things go in right direction. again.

[jennylindinha]

"bags of malice" - snort!

[DavidHameron]

I am NOT a naughty boy, I am Spartacus.

[Beachcomber]

ooh unrest in the Tories, I bet Hameron is shitting himself.

[Heathcliffscathy]

come out come out senior tory grandee wherever you are....

[nearlytoolate]

there is also a problem with Lib/Lab coalition - they don't have an overall majority without another partner. So I think Clegg's calculation absolutely correct.

[wubblybubbly]

Indeed, it seems Hameron is not the tory messiah, he's a very naughty boy

[sallyJayGorce]

Boris actually LOVED Maggie. Not just her politics. He loved her as a woman. Men like hime like a feisty bit of rough like her.

[VoteRedLentil]

The difference between AV (good) and (AV+)PR is nicely explained here.

Yes, Johnson was favouring AV+ last night. It's the system here in Ireland and it is not as transparent or as democratic in my view as AV. I'll get a t-shirt printed with 'I agree with Jack Straw'

[leavingonajetplane]

Saw and enjoyed Sophable. Love to be a fly on the wall of the Tory discussions.

That sounded very promising

[theyoungvisiter]

would Clegg lose a referendum on PR?

I think most people are fairly pro some form of PR - maybe not straight PR but perhaps AV or enhanced AV or whatever they call it.

[Heathcliffscathy]

i adore the thought of puce faced tory grandees sputtering that cameron was too leftist during the campaign!

love it.

[Disenchanted3]

So the tories don't want a 're-vote' (is that what an electoral reform is?)

I'm really sorry about my novice questions, I'm genuinly enthralled but lack the knowledge

[nearlytoolate]

inmyhead you are forgetting that Cameron alone can't agree this - see what the Tory MPs are saying...
Tbh anything could happen.
I think I will go and have some lunch now...

[Nymphadora]

Hehehehe at the Tories falling out when they actually have a chance!

[Heathcliffscathy]

did any of you clock what andrew neil said?

not much chance of a lib/con coalition then.