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Why is MN pro-labour?

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CanNeverDecide · 04/05/2010 23:19

I'm relatively new here, only posted a couple of times.

Not hard to notice it's all a bit hard core left on here...

Why is that? Genuinely curious to know why this particular cohort of people that have come together are pretty much all left wing.

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expatinscotland · 05/05/2010 02:11

I don't thing DC and his wife are bad. No way. I think they don't understand. They never had to. I'm so glad they haven't, for it is not so pleasant ofentimes. I would not wish that on any good soul.

I know the 'lord' of our region, their good friend, is the same, and he is not a bad or evil man in any way.

But my children are not here to pay the way just because they were born who they are, or to make up for the fault of his fellows whilst his children glide along and they row the oars.

My children are just as worthy, just as beautiful, as even their own heir held her chin in his hands and said.

So I can't vote for him. I don't hate him. That's a very strong thing, and he's not worthy of that, being not an evil person.

But he and his party will punish us, just by virtue of who we are, and because they don't understand.

That is wrong to me.

He will win. I think so.

And I'll weep. Because I want my children to be who they are and who they are happy to be, Scots, born and bred here.

That is nothing to him. Why would it be?

foxytocin · 05/05/2010 02:30

you said it for me tdiddy: "i have a lot of friends who are Tory and understand their perspective. I often think that their's is narrower than mine but they are nice people. DC and wife strike me as very nice people even though i won't vote for them. Costs me nothing to say so."

Dh remembers the Tory posters of 70 with the long dole queues the MT gained power and doubled them. She has a lot to thank Argentina for.

foxytocin · 05/05/2010 02:31

0f 79, as you well know.

expatinscotland · 05/05/2010 02:32

too right, foxy.

TDiddy · 05/05/2010 02:33

yes, expat, I think Govt should be about making people's lives better not just about lowest possible taxes. Happy to pay less tax but priority is better society. Yes DC will win and become a bit arrogant like the rest.

expatinscotland · 05/05/2010 02:39

He'll win, TDiddy.

I already know that.

And people like us, especially Scots, we're not as important.

That stings.

To know, you're expected to ante up, it's your duty. I know it is. I was taught so well at home.

But I'm afraid I can't teach my children to tow that line. There's just too much of the American in me for that.

I don't accept it. I don't accept Tory rule, especially for my children.

I don't know what to do, just now, but this isn't it.

Because I don't accept someone who doesn't care about us.

scaryteacher · 05/05/2010 08:02

That's how I feel about Labour expat and always have - he doesn't give a shit about the rural community my home is in in Cornwall; and he doesn't give a shit about the military community either.

posieparker · 05/05/2010 08:04

You would have to be pretty selfish/stupid/naive (delete as appropriate) to vote Tory and MN is full of kind and intelligent people....not qualities the, give tax breaks to the rich, Tories represent.

ilovemydogandMrBrown · 05/05/2010 08:14

I find MN quite right wing, and I don't mean just people voting Tory. Wonder what that says about me

scaryteacher · 05/05/2010 08:16

In your opinion Posie - I will be voting Tory as I don't want to see rural communities stuffed even more than they already are.

gingercat12 · 05/05/2010 08:18

ilovemydogandMrBrown I actually found MN quite right wing, too. I mean not everyone and in every case, but more often than not.

ilovemydogandMrBrown · 05/05/2010 08:22

scary, what would the Tories do any differently for the rural Cornish community?

claig · 05/05/2010 08:24

expatinscotland - David Cameron has Scottish roots. I'm sure he does care about the Scottish people. Just because he was born in England, doesn't mean that he is not a Scot. Rod Stewart was born in England, but you'll have to teavel far to find a prouder Scot.

claig · 05/05/2010 08:25

travel far

ooojimaflip · 05/05/2010 08:37

Claig - Rod Stewart? One of those several proud scots who line in LA then.

ooojimaflip · 05/05/2010 08:42

atlantis - I can't accept that the demonisation is due to Harriet Harman - the attacks on her and the equality legislation have only really started in the last few years - attacks on feminism (as if threatens the status quo) have been endemic ever since it was first thought of.

claig · 05/05/2010 08:44

Rod Stewart lives in Essex. His wife wants to bring the children up in an English school. It doesn't matter where you live, it matters where your heart is, and Rod Stewart is a shining example of a great Scot who loves his country. Mick Jagger lives in the Bahamas, but he is still English.

ooojimaflip · 05/05/2010 08:46

It doesn't matter two shits were your heart is, it matters where you live and where you pay tax. RS certainly used to live in LA - I remember hearing about him playing footbal with Robbie Williams ;)

scaryteacher · 05/05/2010 08:49

Ilove, hopefully fairer funding for the schools for a start; take an interest in infrastructure; make sure we don't get hammered for fuel so much, and DC knows where Cornwall is; he's been there!

Also, if the Tories do as promised and provide a viable future for Devonport dockyard, that's a lot of jobs and businesses dependant on the yard in Plymouth and Cornwall that will survive.

claig · 05/05/2010 08:56

ooojimaflip, yes Rod lived in LA, just as many British Hollywood actors do. I think Johnny Rotten and the Pistols' Steve Cook live there too. That doesn't matter, they are all still British. If you think "it doesn't matter two shits were your heart is, it matters where you live and where you pay tax" then you have obviously never lived abroad in your life and have no experience of how the love for your country grows, the further away from it you are.

ooojimaflip · 05/05/2010 08:59

Oh they are still Brits - just not proud ones. Actually I should add 'where you send you're money back too' to include the various diasporas.

ooojimaflip · 05/05/2010 08:59

No one should 'love' a country anyway.

BeenBeta · 05/05/2010 09:00

MN is not old Labour supporting - it has a left wing North London literary, media, chatterati bias though. Typical New Labour LibDem supporter territory.

Some good old fashioned Tory Thatcherites kicking about the place though to stir even things up.

GetOrfMoiLand · 05/05/2010 09:03

LOl at the Rod Stewart tangent.

I don't think MN is predominantly Labour. Plenty of tories and Lib Dems on here. Is quite a good mix I think.

ooojimaflip · 05/05/2010 09:05

I think Mumsnet sees a collision of two large demographics:- Liberal educated women - who tend to the left, and wealthy women who tend to the right. Obvously, these overlap but I can't do a Venn Diagram on here. There are people from most other sections of society represented too - some of which punch above their weight due to the posting rate of their representatives. Didn't MN do a survey?

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